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4-Jan-23 5:55pm
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Heavyd814life
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The 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

Gold Star Shane12m Current Total: 893


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Starfield - 83
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Resident Evil 4 - 93
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


Silver Star Best1989 Current Total: 887


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Pikmin 4 - 87
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


Bronze Star Heavyd814life Current Total: 883


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Forza Motorsport - 85
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Street Fighter 6 - 92
9. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 81
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


4. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 880


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
5. Kerbal Space Program 2
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Skull and Bones


5. Boss Current Total: 878


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Lies of P - 80
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Starfield - 83
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Hogwarts Legacy - 84


6. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Forza Motorsport - 85
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
2. Pikmin 4 - 87


6. Scott Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars - 88
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85


6. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Glitched
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


7. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 872


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


7. Sefjwm Current Total: 872


Top 10:
1. Animal Well
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


8. Frank Current Total: 869


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Forza Motorsport - 85
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Unannounced Mario Movie Tie-In

Alternates:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Theatrhythm Final Bar - 87


9. Bonham2 Current Total: 867


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League


10. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 863


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon - 86
2. Starfield - 83


11. Tonymack21 Current Total: 861


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
5. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name - 78
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Pikmin 4 - 87
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96


12. EB Current Total: 857


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85


13. Roko Current Total: 853


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Rise of the Ronin
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. Tekken 8
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Pikmin 4 - 87
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


14. Lunar Current Total: 844


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse - 68
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 81
8. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie - 81
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 73
2. Wild Hearts - 79


15. Sailorneorune Current Total: 841


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon - 81
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 79
6. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
7. Master Detective Archives: Rain Code - 77
8. Street Fighter 6 - 92
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars - 88
2. WrestleQuest - 69


16. Ryan Current Total: 840


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Forza Motorsport - 85
3. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Redfall - 56
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Street Fighter 6 - 92
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


17. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 839


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
3. Dead Island 2 - 73
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
6. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
7. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. ONI: Road to the Mightiest Oni - 73
2. Process of Elimination - 70


18. SilverOwl Current Total: 833


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Forspoken - 64
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
10. Starfield - 83

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 73
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


19. Archer Current Total: 827


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Island 2 - 73
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
2. Oxenfree II: Lost Signals - 73


20. 3hitcombo Current Total: 821


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 79
5. Pikmin 4 - 87
6. Redfall - 56
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Starfield - 83
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star - 65
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


21. Cevil Current Total: 813


Top 10:
1. Clive 'N' Wrench - 52
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Sea of Stars - 88
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Forspoken - 64
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


22. Incubus421 Current Total: 786


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Starfield - 83


23. HybridCRoW Current Total: 779


Top 10:
1. A Space for the Unbound - 85
2. Atomic Heart - 70
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Forspoken - 64
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
8. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - 75
9. Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life - 72
10. Wild Hearts - 79

Alternates:
1. One Piece Odyssey - 73
2. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70


24. Jbjz Current Total: 766


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70
10. Street Fighter 6 - 92

Alternates:
1. Palworld
2. Paper Ghost Stories: Third Eye Open


25. Bogo Current Total: 759


Top 10:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Starfield - 83


26. SupremeSarna Current Total: 731


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Pikmin 4 - 87
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum - 34

Alternates:
1. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


27. Demonalcohol Current Total: 720


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Death Stranding 2
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
6. Hades II
7. Hollow Knight: Silksong
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Pikmin 4 - 87


28. SwiftJAB Current Total: 664


Top 10:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Forspoken - 64
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Dead Space - 89


29. Metsfan718 Current Total: 466


Top 10:
1. Call of Duty: Warzone Mobile
2. Crash Team Rumble - 67
3. Disney Illusion Island - 73
4. MrWang And Love
5. Peppa Pig: World Adventures - 72
6. Romancelvania - 64
7. Star Trek: Resurgence - 71
8. T-Rex Dinosaur Game
9. The Last Case of Benedict Fox - 58
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow - 61
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong


30. benstylus Current Total: 75


Top 10:
1. 2D Metroid Remake
2. Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver Remake
3. New Civilization Game
4. New Hyrule Warriors Game
5. New Lego Game Based on a Comic Book/Graphic Novel IP
6. New Rayman game
7. New Shantae game
8. New Tetris game
9. New Thunder Lotus Game (Creators of Spiritfarer)
10. WarioWare: Move It! - 75

Alternates:
1. New ARMS Game
2. New EA Sports Racing Game (Not F1 or WRC)



Upcoming Releases:




League Overview:


Welcome to Year 6 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2024. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Armored Core VI and it gets pushed into 2024, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2023. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2024. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. DemonAlcohol
3. PizzaTheHutt
4. EB
5. TalonJedi87
6. benstylus
7. Sailorneorune
8. Bleed_DukeBlue
9. HybridCRoW
10. Incubus421
11. SwiftJAB
12. Roko
13. Thatfootballguy
14. SilverOwl
15. Shane12m
16. Frank
17. SupremeSarna
18. Cevil
19. BloodPuppetX
20. Sefjwm
21. Ryan
22. Bogo
23. Boss
24. Archer
25. Scott
26. Lunar
27. Tonymack21
28. Mattyg00013
29. Bonham2
30. Metsfan718
31. Best1989
32. 3hitcombo
33. Jbjz


Previous Winners:
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/m...
Deadline: January 18, 2023 at 11:59pm



31-Oct-23 7:26pm
#2
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews

Shane12m wrote:
bogo wrote:> according to overall Metacritic score, there's 24 'things' that are rated 90+, but> a few aren't valid for our little game here. I think 17 of those actually count;> still a good amount. highest possible score is 924 with:> -TotK> -baldurs gate 3> -RE4> -Cocoon> -SMB Wonder> -Street fighter 6> -Turbo Overkill> -Diablo 4> -Sea of Stars> -any of the eight 90 score games> > Best is pretty dang close! How many of those 90 score games have less than 20 reviews? I feel like Turbo Overkill getting a 90 with 11 reviews would have been really cheap to count towards compared to a game with 90+ reviews. It is sooo easy to score really high (or low) with very few reviews. Maybe a minimum of 20 (30? 40?) reviews or something needs to be in place
Games thst don't get a ton of press don't get a ton of reviews. I think 11 reviews is plenty. Apogee has been doing some cool things lately to make themselves relevant again.


31-Oct-23 8:27pm
#3
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

benstylus wrote:
Shane12m wrote:> bogo wrote: |>> according to overall Metacritic score, there's 24 'things' that are rated 90+,> but |>> a few aren't valid for our little game here. I think 17 of those actually count; |>> still a good amount. highest possible score is 924 with: |>> -TotK |>> -baldurs gate 3 |>> -RE4 |>> -Cocoon |>> -SMB Wonder |>> -Street fighter 6 |>> -Turbo Overkill |>> -Diablo 4 |>> -Sea of Stars |>> -any of the eight 90 score games |>> |>> Best is pretty dang close!> > How many of those 90 score games have less than 20 reviews? I feel like Turbo Overkill> getting a 90 with 11 reviews would have been really cheap to count towards compared> to a game with 90+ reviews. It is sooo easy to score really high (or low) with very> few reviews. Maybe a minimum of 20 (30? 40?) reviews or something needs to be in> place Games thst don't get a ton of press don't get a ton of reviews. I think 11 reviews is plenty. Apogee has been doing some cool things lately to make themselves relevant again.
11 reviews is definitely not enough in my opinion. You add 5 reviews to that game that are mixed in the 70s or 80s and that drastically changes the overall score
31-Oct-23 8:30pm
#4
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review

Shane12m wrote:
benstylus wrote:> Shane12m wrote: |>> bogo wrote:> |>> according to overall Metacritic score, there's 24 'things' that are rated 90+, |>> but> |>> a few aren't valid for our little game here. I think 17 of those actually count;> |>> still a good amount. highest possible score is 924 with:> |>> -TotK> |>> -baldurs gate 3> |>> -RE4> |>> -Cocoon> |>> -SMB Wonder> |>> -Street fighter 6> |>> -Turbo Overkill> |>> -Diablo 4> |>> -Sea of Stars> |>> -any of the eight 90 score games> |>> > |>> Best is pretty dang close! |>> |>> How many of those 90 score games have less than 20 reviews? I feel like Turbo> Overkill |>> getting a 90 with 11 reviews would have been really cheap to count towards compared |>> to a game with 90+ reviews. It is sooo easy to score really high (or low) with> very |>> few reviews. Maybe a minimum of 20 (30? 40?) reviews or something needs to be> in |>> place> > Games thst don't get a ton of press don't get a ton of reviews. I think 11 reviews> is plenty. Apogee has been doing some cool things lately to make themselves relevant> again.> > > 11 reviews is definitely not enough in my opinion. You add 5 reviews to that game that are mixed in the 70s or 80s and that drastically changes the overall score
Those games are not games anyone would even have on their list though. So you don't have to worry about that. And there are only 3 games above 90 that have 11 or less that would be eligible for this. And there is no way anyone here knew they existed before their lists were submitted.
31-Oct-23 10:38pm
#5
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

Archer wrote:
Shane12m wrote:> benstylus wrote: |>> Shane12m wrote:> |>> bogo wrote: |>> |>> according to overall Metacritic score, there's 24 'things' that are rated> 90+,> |>> but |>> |>> a few aren't valid for our little game here. I think 17 of those actually> count; |>> |>> still a good amount. highest possible score is 924 with: |>> |>> -TotK |>> |>> -baldurs gate 3 |>> |>> -RE4 |>> |>> -Cocoon |>> |>> -SMB Wonder |>> |>> -Street fighter 6 |>> |>> -Turbo Overkill |>> |>> -Diablo 4 |>> |>> -Sea of Stars |>> |>> -any of the eight 90 score games |>> |>> |>> |>> Best is pretty dang close!> |>> > |>> How many of those 90 score games have less than 20 reviews? I feel like Turbo |>> Overkill> |>> getting a 90 with 11 reviews would have been really cheap to count towards compared> |>> to a game with 90+ reviews. It is sooo easy to score really high (or low) with |>> very> |>> few reviews. Maybe a minimum of 20 (30? 40?) reviews or something needs to be |>> in> |>> place |>> |>> Games thst don't get a ton of press don't get a ton of reviews. I think 11 reviews |>> is plenty. Apogee has been doing some cool things lately to make themselves relevant |>> again. |>> |>> |>> > > 11 reviews is definitely not enough in my opinion. You add 5 reviews to that game> that are mixed in the 70s or 80s and that drastically changes the overall score Those games are not games anyone would even have on their list though. So you don't have to worry about that. And there are only 3 games above 90 that have 11 or less that would be eligible for this. And there is no way anyone here knew they existed before their lists were submitted.
Fair point :)
1-Nov-23 6:22am
#6
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews

Archer wrote:
Those games are not games anyone would even have on their list though. So you don't have to worry about that. And there are only 3 games above 90 that have 11 or less that would be eligible for this. And there is no way anyone here knew they existed before their lists were submitted.
I knew about Turbo Overkill since I'm on Apogee's discord. But my list this year was all games that hadn't even been announced at the time


1-Nov-23 11:44am
#7
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review

benstylus wrote:
Archer wrote:> Those games are not games anyone would even have on their list though. So you don't> have to worry about that. And there are only 3 games above 90 that have 11 or less> that would be eligible for this. And there is no way anyone here knew they existed> before their lists were submitted. I knew about Turbo Overkill since I'm on Apogee's discord. But my list this year was all games that hadn't even been announced at the time
I'd wager even with you knowing about it, you still wouldn't have put it on your list.
1-Nov-23 12:37pm
#8
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews

Archer wrote:
benstylus wrote:> Archer wrote: |>> Those games are not games anyone would even have on their list though. So you> don't |>> have to worry about that. And there are only 3 games above 90 that have 11 or> less |>> that would be eligible for this. And there is no way anyone here knew they existed |>> before their lists were submitted. > > I knew about Turbo Overkill since I'm on Apogee's discord. But my list this year> was all games that hadn't even been announced at the time> I'd wager even with you knowing about it, you still wouldn't have put it on your list.
Not this year, this year was for unannounced games that probably wouldn't happen (but surprisingly 3 of them were announced, although 2 of those are 2024 releases).

Missed the boat on Lego (2K drive came out but I had called for Comic book lego game).

Also missed out on Tetris because although MyArcade released a new handheld with a custom version of the game on there, I don't think it got any metacritic reviews.

But I think I did all right with predictions on what would be announced or released, all things considered.

4-Nov-23 5:26am
#9
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader

Talos Principle 2 has an 87 wow. Loved the first game.
4-Nov-23 12:51pm
#10
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review

I remember really liking the first game. I think it was free on PS+ at some point on PS4, like 5-6 years ago. I'll have to check the second one out at some point.
6-Nov-23 10:45am
#11
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (8 minutes ago)

Okay guys, OP has been updated with scores for Like a Dragon Gaiden (79 on Metacritic) and WarioWare: Move It! (75 on Metacritic). I think those are the last two games for the year, but I'll go through later on just to confirm that. If those are the last two then I'll do a final tally, add alternates to people's final score, and we can wrap things up for 2023!

6-Nov-23 1:08pm
#12
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews

I'm on the board!

6-Nov-23 1:43pm
#13
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews

Of the mainline WarioWare games (meaning not counting the two low effort spin-offs on DSiWare and WiiWare or Game & Wario which was more of just a tech demo for the Wii U GamePad than anything), this is the lowest rated game in the series now. I almost picked it up on Friday when I was at Walmart but talked myself out of it because I know from the previous game that once I've played all the mini-games I will probably never play it again.

6-Nov-23 1:56pm
#14
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews

I think part of the problem is that it feels like we just had WarioWare get it together releases not too long ago.

Looking at Wikipedia it was 2 years ago but it's not really a series we need refreshed very often IMO.

Also i was pulling for a new Wario platformer

13-Nov-23 6:47pm
#15
Heavyd814life
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Okay peeps. I've updated the OP and everything is now final. @Shane12m finished 1st, @Best1989 finished 2nd, and I just held off @PizzaTheHutt for 3rd place. Wild year and congrats to both Shane and Best. I'll send you guys PMs with your prizes in a few minutes.

Such a wild year. Everyone has gotten much better at this game and I think this has to be one of the best years in gaming history, at least as far as review scores are concerned. So many games scored over 90. @TalonJedi87 finished 10th with 863 points but that would have been enough to finish 1st last year!

Tears of the Kingdom and Baldur's Gate III both scored 96 and were the best reviewed games on our lists. Forspoken (64) and Redfall (56) were the two most disappointing high-profile games. Those two definitely killed a few lists.

Thanks for participating everyone! I'll have the 2024 edition up and running sometime in December.

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13-Nov-23 6:52pm
#16
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews

Thanks so much @Heavyd814life ! I already have my tentative 2024 list ready and waiting!
13-Nov-23 6:56pm
#17
Scott
GameTZ Subscriber Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews

Dang, really thought I had top 5 this year...missed it by 2 points!
13-Nov-23 7:17pm
#18
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews

It was a close one for sure. Alan Wake II dropping from 90 to 87 cost me 3rd place.

13-Nov-23 7:29pm
#19
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review

This was a fun year. Congrats to the top three.

Next year the winner will only have a score of 724, due to it being the worst year on record, lol.
13-Nov-23 7:43pm
#20
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader

How does this work? It's based off of predictions on what scores/ratings upcoming games will get?
13-Nov-23 8:07pm
#21
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader

Woo got to 7 in the end, not bad for an insane year

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