Hogwarts Legacy
8-Feb-23 3:37pm
#1 Master_Z
Anyone getting it or already playing the Deluxe Edition? I know it's a divisive game because of Rowling's past LGBT remarks, but it still looks like a pretty good game from what I've seen.
#1 Master_Z
Anyone getting it or already playing the Deluxe Edition? I know it's a divisive game because of Rowling's past LGBT remarks, but it still looks like a pretty good game from what I've seen.
8-Feb-23 3:42pm
#2 Bleed_DukeBlue
Mine comes in Friday. I'm hoping I'll be finished with what I'm playing now in time to start on it then.
#2 Bleed_DukeBlue
Mine comes in Friday. I'm hoping I'll be finished with what I'm playing now in time to start on it then.
8-Feb-23 4:33pm
#3 sa330206
People are offended by just about anything these days. It looks like a great game, I'll wait until it drops in price but will definitely pick this up at some point. You guys will have to post your impressions once you get it.
#3 sa330206
People are offended by just about anything these days. It looks like a great game, I'll wait until it drops in price but will definitely pick this up at some point. You guys will have to post your impressions once you get it.
8-Feb-23 5:05pm
#4 DemonAlcohol
I've been watching MissMikka play this. I'm not a Harry Potter fan but the game is pretty good.
#4 DemonAlcohol
I've been watching MissMikka play this. I'm not a Harry Potter fan but the game is pretty good.
8-Feb-23 6:11pm
#5 theJaw
sa330206 wrote:
People are offended by just about anything these days. It looks like a great game, I'll wait until it drops in price but will definitely pick this up at some point. You guys will have to post your impressions once you get it.
Well JK Rowling does suck on a human level. Acknowledging garbage behavior =\= taking offense.
That said, I’m still a fan of the world she built before she went batcrap (or publicly went batcrap) and I very much want to play Hogwarts Legacy. I’ll probably snag it after a price drop or find a used copy in a few weeks. It does look great.
#5 theJaw
sa330206 wrote:
People are offended by just about anything these days. It looks like a great game, I'll wait until it drops in price but will definitely pick this up at some point. You guys will have to post your impressions once you get it.
Well JK Rowling does suck on a human level. Acknowledging garbage behavior =\= taking offense.
That said, I’m still a fan of the world she built before she went batcrap (or publicly went batcrap) and I very much want to play Hogwarts Legacy. I’ll probably snag it after a price drop or find a used copy in a few weeks. It does look great.
11-Feb-23 3:49pm
#8 ued222
Finn wrote:
Have mine preordered…. But it may not arrive until the 14th.Same going to get mine on the 13th or 14th.
#8 ued222
Finn wrote:
Have mine preordered…. But it may not arrive until the 14th.Same going to get mine on the 13th or 14th.
11-Feb-23 5:14pm
#9 bonham2
theJaw wrote:
Well JK Rowling does suck on a human level. Acknowledging garbage behavior =\= taking offense.
For the life of me, I don't understand why there is any controversy here. She didn't say anything hateful. I think some super sensitive and ultra-woke people twisted her words and claimed she hates trans people, which never actually happened, and then people around the world just read and believed that she is anti-trans.
Here is what she ACTUALLY said...
When speaking about biological women, she referred to them as "people who menstruate". Then, after some backlash, she went on to clarify:
“If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth. The idea that women like me, who’ve been empathetic to trans people for decades, feeling kinship because they’re vulnerable in the same way as women—i.e., to male violence—‘hate’ trans people because they think sex is real and has lived consequences—is a nonsense.”
“I respect every trans person’s right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them. I’d march with you if you were discriminated against on the basis of being trans. At the same time, my life has been shaped by being female. I do not believe it’s hateful to say so.”
Where is the "suck on a human level" and "garbage behavior" in those quotes?
#9 bonham2
theJaw wrote:
Well JK Rowling does suck on a human level. Acknowledging garbage behavior =\= taking offense.
For the life of me, I don't understand why there is any controversy here. She didn't say anything hateful. I think some super sensitive and ultra-woke people twisted her words and claimed she hates trans people, which never actually happened, and then people around the world just read and believed that she is anti-trans.
Here is what she ACTUALLY said...
When speaking about biological women, she referred to them as "people who menstruate". Then, after some backlash, she went on to clarify:
“If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth. The idea that women like me, who’ve been empathetic to trans people for decades, feeling kinship because they’re vulnerable in the same way as women—i.e., to male violence—‘hate’ trans people because they think sex is real and has lived consequences—is a nonsense.”
“I respect every trans person’s right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them. I’d march with you if you were discriminated against on the basis of being trans. At the same time, my life has been shaped by being female. I do not believe it’s hateful to say so.”
Where is the "suck on a human level" and "garbage behavior" in those quotes?
11-Feb-23 5:34pm
#10 theJaw
@bonham2 Putting these in tags as not everyone feels like seeing this sort of discussion and I’m super scared of negs.
I preface this by saying I don’t think she’s purposely hateful, she’s just missing the plot entirely.
She’s attempting to suggest that the simple existence of trans women somehow “erases” the reality lived by women. She literally says as much. That is 100% demeaning to trans people. I don’t even know if she realizes the weight of her statement, but remember that just because we don’t feel targeted by what she said doesn’t mean others won’t. They have valid reasons to feel her public denunciation of trans women in comparison to “people who menstruate” aids those trying to stifle their way of life. Given the way certain local governments in this country are approaching trans rights, the things a public figure says can go a long way toward demonizing or vilifying something for no reason. If she wanted to be an ally or “march alongside” them, she probably should have thought a little harder before making a statement that literally suggests her upbringing as a woman means they are lesser.
On this topic, I do need to say it’s goofy to see the same folks who were pissed at her for announcing Dumbledore was gay for brownie points way back when are suddenly defending her to no end because she suggested trans women are lesser than “regular” women solely based off her experiences as a woman (not suggesting you’re one of those folks btw, just mentioning it). That alone sort of illustrates the effect her words have had on how people view trans folks, whether she meant for it to or not. It’d be real easy to roll it back, but she just doubles down.
ALL that said, there are far worse things being said about and done to trans folks nowadays. Admittedly on the grand scheme, Rowling’s just entirely tone deaf to the situation and her garbage behavior may just be due to naivety. Doesn’t make it any less garbage though.
Anyhow, I’m not going to continue this conversation in the thread as this isn’t the place for it, but feel free to PM me if you’d like to discuss further. I have several friends in that demographic who have explained it a lot better than I ever could and it’s a convo I’m more than willing to have. No ill will.
Anyways I just realized Hogwarts Legacy doesn’t come out on PS4 until April. Shooter mcgavin.
#10 theJaw
@bonham2 Putting these in tags as not everyone feels like seeing this sort of discussion and I’m super scared of negs.
I preface this by saying I don’t think she’s purposely hateful, she’s just missing the plot entirely.
She’s attempting to suggest that the simple existence of trans women somehow “erases” the reality lived by women. She literally says as much. That is 100% demeaning to trans people. I don’t even know if she realizes the weight of her statement, but remember that just because we don’t feel targeted by what she said doesn’t mean others won’t. They have valid reasons to feel her public denunciation of trans women in comparison to “people who menstruate” aids those trying to stifle their way of life. Given the way certain local governments in this country are approaching trans rights, the things a public figure says can go a long way toward demonizing or vilifying something for no reason. If she wanted to be an ally or “march alongside” them, she probably should have thought a little harder before making a statement that literally suggests her upbringing as a woman means they are lesser.
On this topic, I do need to say it’s goofy to see the same folks who were pissed at her for announcing Dumbledore was gay for brownie points way back when are suddenly defending her to no end because she suggested trans women are lesser than “regular” women solely based off her experiences as a woman (not suggesting you’re one of those folks btw, just mentioning it). That alone sort of illustrates the effect her words have had on how people view trans folks, whether she meant for it to or not. It’d be real easy to roll it back, but she just doubles down.
ALL that said, there are far worse things being said about and done to trans folks nowadays. Admittedly on the grand scheme, Rowling’s just entirely tone deaf to the situation and her garbage behavior may just be due to naivety. Doesn’t make it any less garbage though.
Anyhow, I’m not going to continue this conversation in the thread as this isn’t the place for it, but feel free to PM me if you’d like to discuss further. I have several friends in that demographic who have explained it a lot better than I ever could and it’s a convo I’m more than willing to have. No ill will.
Anyways I just realized Hogwarts Legacy doesn’t come out on PS4 until April. Shooter mcgavin.
12-Feb-23 12:44pm
#11 Xellos2099
The game does look pretty good. Might have to trade my isshin for it after i am done with it or try to borrow a steam family share for a few bucks here lol,
#11 Xellos2099
The game does look pretty good. Might have to trade my isshin for it after i am done with it or try to borrow a steam family share for a few bucks here lol,
12-Feb-23 5:00pm
#12 Feeb
JKR has said lots and defended lots of transphobic discussion / personalities. There are pages of well documented stuff out there. Personally it doesn’t offend me but I do tend to side with not offending others. I’m more offended by the 70$ entry fee.
#12 Feeb
JKR has said lots and defended lots of transphobic discussion / personalities. There are pages of well documented stuff out there. Personally it doesn’t offend me but I do tend to side with not offending others. I’m more offended by the 70$ entry fee.
12-Feb-23 10:44pm
#13 michaeld
Phobic and isms thrown around so loosely to shut down anyone or idea/opinion you don’t like by many people is a horrible trend
#13 michaeld
Phobic and isms thrown around so loosely to shut down anyone or idea/opinion you don’t like by many people is a horrible trend
12-Feb-23 10:47pm
#14 Feeb
So is being a hateful chicken in public forums. It’s usually just out of ignorance and naïveté.
#14 Feeb
So is being a hateful chicken in public forums. It’s usually just out of ignorance and naïveté.
12-Feb-23 11:26pm
#15 theJaw
michaeld wrote:
Phobic and isms thrown around so loosely to shut down anyone or idea/opinion you don’t like by many people is a horrible trend
Super okay to criticize. She may be naive, but I mean, that’s sorta the point. Oh you're "phobic" by accident...?
Feel free to live the way you're comfortable with. Also SUUUUUPER easy to let others do the same.
#15 theJaw
michaeld wrote:
Phobic and isms thrown around so loosely to shut down anyone or idea/opinion you don’t like by many people is a horrible trend
Super okay to criticize. She may be naive, but I mean, that’s sorta the point. Oh you're "phobic" by accident...?
Feel free to live the way you're comfortable with. Also SUUUUUPER easy to let others do the same.
13-Feb-23 12:22am
#19 theJaw
More important than all of that other crap though, I bet riding a hippogriff would be pretty incredible. Just a super satisfying “horse with a bird face” ride with some pals, preferably with a beautiful sunrise setting to be the backdrop. Now THAT would be hella fun.
#19 theJaw
More important than all of that other crap though, I bet riding a hippogriff would be pretty incredible. Just a super satisfying “horse with a bird face” ride with some pals, preferably with a beautiful sunrise setting to be the backdrop. Now THAT would be hella fun.
13-Feb-23 1:18pm
#20 Finn
ued222 wrote:
Finn wrote:> Have mine preordered…. But it may not arrive until the 14th. Same going to get mine on the 13th or 14th.
Actually it came in on Saturday... but I had it delivered to were I work. Of course they showed up 15 min before anyone was there and closed on Sunday... so I should have it today!
#20 Finn
ued222 wrote:
Finn wrote:> Have mine preordered…. But it may not arrive until the 14th. Same going to get mine on the 13th or 14th.
Actually it came in on Saturday... but I had it delivered to were I work. Of course they showed up 15 min before anyone was there and closed on Sunday... so I should have it today!
13-Feb-23 1:21pm
#21 Sun
So I have a PS4 and a PS5. If my spouse and I both want to play at the same time, is the digital deluxe edition the best way to go?
#21 Sun
So I have a PS4 and a PS5. If my spouse and I both want to play at the same time, is the digital deluxe edition the best way to go?
Hogwarts Legacy