Full-scale console gaming coming to iPhone 15 Pro
12-Sep-23 9:06pm
#1 Staraang
I know a lot of people dog Apple's events but this one reveal definitely caught my eye. There's going to be native support for games like Assassin's Creed Mirage, RE4, RE Village, Death Stranding, and more. This feels like a big deal. All of a sudden we can play console games on a phone? Awesome!
https://www.videogam...
#1 Staraang
I know a lot of people dog Apple's events but this one reveal definitely caught my eye. There's going to be native support for games like Assassin's Creed Mirage, RE4, RE Village, Death Stranding, and more. This feels like a big deal. All of a sudden we can play console games on a phone? Awesome!
https://www.videogam...
18-Sep-23 11:02pm
#41 DarkFact
I did that with an ipad pro once, for science. Played through Super Mario Sunshine for the first time. And I didn't even pay $999 for the privilege, AND the screen made the game actually visible. I'm not doing that on an iphone 15 pro, crap's gonna give me bad vision
#41 DarkFact
I did that with an ipad pro once, for science. Played through Super Mario Sunshine for the first time. And I didn't even pay $999 for the privilege, AND the screen made the game actually visible. I'm not doing that on an iphone 15 pro, crap's gonna give me bad vision
19-Sep-23 8:18pm
#42 Master_Z
Staraang wrote:
benstylus wrote:> The problem with phone gaming is unless it was designed for touch screen you really> need a controller. And some kind of mount to attach the controller to the phone.> > > Unless you're going to set the phone on a table or desk and use the controller to> play that way. But what else fits on a table or desk and is good for playing games?> A TV or a monitor!> > Either way, there goes big portability aspect unless you want to lug your controller> around with you too. > > Maybe it would be useful if you traveled a lot and wanted to play on the plane or> something. And you didn't bring your switch or steam deck for some reason.> > Apple makes good products but they are among the last companies I would think of> when it comes to gaming. > > I’m thinking of a Backbone or Kishi to play these games. People lug around a Switch and Steam Deck on top of their phone. Now you’d only have to take the controller with you. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Apple or an authorized third party released an official controller. The headline here really is that a mobile chip is able to run AAA games natively. That’s unprecedented and is potentially a big deal in the years to come.
Or wirelessly over Apple TV from the phone, I think it's some proprietary ad-hoc standard, so probably less latency than over wi-fi. But they could just make an Apple TV with the same chip as the iPhone 15 Pro and sell it for like $200-300 with gaming capabilities. Pair up your Xbox/PS5 controller and boom, you have a console.
#42 Master_Z
Staraang wrote:
benstylus wrote:> The problem with phone gaming is unless it was designed for touch screen you really> need a controller. And some kind of mount to attach the controller to the phone.> > > Unless you're going to set the phone on a table or desk and use the controller to> play that way. But what else fits on a table or desk and is good for playing games?> A TV or a monitor!> > Either way, there goes big portability aspect unless you want to lug your controller> around with you too. > > Maybe it would be useful if you traveled a lot and wanted to play on the plane or> something. And you didn't bring your switch or steam deck for some reason.> > Apple makes good products but they are among the last companies I would think of> when it comes to gaming. > > I’m thinking of a Backbone or Kishi to play these games. People lug around a Switch and Steam Deck on top of their phone. Now you’d only have to take the controller with you. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Apple or an authorized third party released an official controller. The headline here really is that a mobile chip is able to run AAA games natively. That’s unprecedented and is potentially a big deal in the years to come.
Or wirelessly over Apple TV from the phone, I think it's some proprietary ad-hoc standard, so probably less latency than over wi-fi. But they could just make an Apple TV with the same chip as the iPhone 15 Pro and sell it for like $200-300 with gaming capabilities. Pair up your Xbox/PS5 controller and boom, you have a console.
27-Sep-23 6:47am
#45 DarkFact
That's what I was begging for, PLEASE can I PLEASE pay PS4 Launch Day Retail prices for the worst possible experience playing this game on the most expensive platform you can play it on? THANK YOU!!! The future is so neat you guys
#45 DarkFact
That's what I was begging for, PLEASE can I PLEASE pay PS4 Launch Day Retail prices for the worst possible experience playing this game on the most expensive platform you can play it on? THANK YOU!!! The future is so neat you guys
27-Sep-23 7:41pm
#46 Staraang
$60 probably a bit steep for me but I’m guessing the price will come down. RE Village is $30 on Mac so hopefully that will be cheaper. I just got an iPhone last year but I might upgrade to a 16 Pro when that comes out next year. Hopefully there’ll be a bigger selection by then. I think it’s going to be possible to hook up the phone to a TV via the USB-C port and use a BT controller.
Game selection is going to be the most important and challenging thing for Apple. If they can get a Steam kind of service going that would be awesome.
#46 Staraang
$60 probably a bit steep for me but I’m guessing the price will come down. RE Village is $30 on Mac so hopefully that will be cheaper. I just got an iPhone last year but I might upgrade to a 16 Pro when that comes out next year. Hopefully there’ll be a bigger selection by then. I think it’s going to be possible to hook up the phone to a TV via the USB-C port and use a BT controller.
Game selection is going to be the most important and challenging thing for Apple. If they can get a Steam kind of service going that would be awesome.
28-Sep-23 4:37pm
#47 Finn
Apparently Genshin Impact is making the Iphone 15 run super hot and really taxes the phone. Not sure sure they are going to be able to run AAA games without Apple fundamentally changing the Iphones design. Then it can also be that Apple dropped the ball with the 15. I mean it not taking much to overheat, it cracks super easy and the titanium back scratches really easy. Nit something i would want to game on.
When I hear people gaming on a iphone or Mac... I suppose phones in general I think of those Viva La Dirt League videos when the guy walks in and wants a Mac to game on.. funny stuff.
#47 Finn
Apparently Genshin Impact is making the Iphone 15 run super hot and really taxes the phone. Not sure sure they are going to be able to run AAA games without Apple fundamentally changing the Iphones design. Then it can also be that Apple dropped the ball with the 15. I mean it not taking much to overheat, it cracks super easy and the titanium back scratches really easy. Nit something i would want to game on.
When I hear people gaming on a iphone or Mac... I suppose phones in general I think of those Viva La Dirt League videos when the guy walks in and wants a Mac to game on.. funny stuff.
28-Sep-23 6:09pm
#48 DarkFact
15 sucks, everyone got what they deserved, and I doubt they'll remember any of it when the 16's announced. If anything Apple's gonna use this generation to confirm that people will buy whatever swill is put in front of them
#48 DarkFact
15 sucks, everyone got what they deserved, and I doubt they'll remember any of it when the 16's announced. If anything Apple's gonna use this generation to confirm that people will buy whatever swill is put in front of them
28-Sep-23 7:41pm
#49 Staraang
I dunno, the phone looks pretty good to me. I think time will tell how widespread the problems are. iPhone gets subjected to exceptional scrutiny compared with other phone and any problem is magnified in the media no matter how isolated. Same thing happens with Tesla even though other car manufacturers hardly make perfect cars. Hopefully the overheating issue will be solved with software updates.
The idea of AAA console gaming on a phone is fairly new so if there are initial issues to iron out I’m not going to sweat it. Hopefully with time it gets more refined. Even so I’ll reserve judgment until we get some reviews in from reputable sources.
#49 Staraang
I dunno, the phone looks pretty good to me. I think time will tell how widespread the problems are. iPhone gets subjected to exceptional scrutiny compared with other phone and any problem is magnified in the media no matter how isolated. Same thing happens with Tesla even though other car manufacturers hardly make perfect cars. Hopefully the overheating issue will be solved with software updates.
The idea of AAA console gaming on a phone is fairly new so if there are initial issues to iron out I’m not going to sweat it. Hopefully with time it gets more refined. Even so I’ll reserve judgment until we get some reviews in from reputable sources.
29-Sep-23 3:40am
#50 EclipseLion
Finn wrote:
Apparently Genshin Impact is making the Iphone 15 run super hot and really taxes the phone. Not sure sure they are going to be able to run AAA games without Apple fundamentally changing the Iphones design. Then it can also be that Apple dropped the ball with the 15. I mean it not taking much to overheat, it cracks super easy and the titanium back scratches really easy. Nit something i would want to game on. When I hear people gaming on a iphone or Mac... I suppose phones in general I think of those Viva La Dirt League videos when the guy walks in and wants a Mac to game on.. funny stuff.
Relevant: https://www.youtube....
Skip the preamble to 2:00
#50 EclipseLion
Finn wrote:
Apparently Genshin Impact is making the Iphone 15 run super hot and really taxes the phone. Not sure sure they are going to be able to run AAA games without Apple fundamentally changing the Iphones design. Then it can also be that Apple dropped the ball with the 15. I mean it not taking much to overheat, it cracks super easy and the titanium back scratches really easy. Nit something i would want to game on. When I hear people gaming on a iphone or Mac... I suppose phones in general I think of those Viva La Dirt League videos when the guy walks in and wants a Mac to game on.. funny stuff.
Relevant: https://www.youtube....
Skip the preamble to 2:00
29-Sep-23 10:06pm
#52 DarkFact
EclipseLion wrote:
Finn wrote:> Apparently Genshin Impact is making the Iphone 15 run super hot and really taxes> the phone. Not sure sure they are going to be able to run AAA games without Apple> fundamentally changing the Iphones design. Then it can also be that Apple dropped> the ball with the 15. I mean it not taking much to overheat, it cracks super easy> and the titanium back scratches really easy. Nit something i would want to game on.> > When I hear people gaming on a iphone or Mac... I suppose phones in general I think> of those Viva La Dirt League videos when the guy walks in and wants a Mac to game> on.. funny stuff. Relevant: https://www.youtube.... Skip the preamble to 2:00
Oh well good! Build quality aside, maybe next year's phone won't suck so much!
Genshin Impact making 15 thermal throttle is embarrassing. That crap runs good on my 11 without cratering the performance because of bad temps, because it was made to run on a potato
#52 DarkFact
EclipseLion wrote:
Finn wrote:> Apparently Genshin Impact is making the Iphone 15 run super hot and really taxes> the phone. Not sure sure they are going to be able to run AAA games without Apple> fundamentally changing the Iphones design. Then it can also be that Apple dropped> the ball with the 15. I mean it not taking much to overheat, it cracks super easy> and the titanium back scratches really easy. Nit something i would want to game on.> > When I hear people gaming on a iphone or Mac... I suppose phones in general I think> of those Viva La Dirt League videos when the guy walks in and wants a Mac to game> on.. funny stuff. Relevant: https://www.youtube.... Skip the preamble to 2:00
Oh well good! Build quality aside, maybe next year's phone won't suck so much!
Genshin Impact making 15 thermal throttle is embarrassing. That crap runs good on my 11 without cratering the performance because of bad temps, because it was made to run on a potato
30-Sep-23 11:26am
#53 Finn
EclipseLion wrote:
Finn wrote:> Apparently Genshin Impact is making the Iphone 15 run super hot and really taxes> the phone. Not sure sure they are going to be able to run AAA games without Apple> fundamentally changing the Iphones design. Then it can also be that Apple dropped> the ball with the 15. I mean it not taking much to overheat, it cracks super easy> and the titanium back scratches really easy. Nit something i would want to game on.> > When I hear people gaming on a iphone or Mac... I suppose phones in general I think> of those Viva La Dirt League videos when the guy walks in and wants a Mac to game> on.. funny stuff. Relevant: https://www.youtube.... Skip the preamble to 2:00
Rich is one that I watch regularly... there is always lots of preamble lol
But yeah it's crazy that they had to lower quality to increase yield. It sure sounds like anyone wanting to upgrade there iPhone should wait until next year. The other thing is the Pro and the Pro max have high speed USB controllers but the lesser phones are stuck at USB 2 speeds simply because they lack the better controller... this will be fixed next year I would assume. It also seems like the glass on the back of the Pro Max is the only variant of the phone that is extremely brittle. I watched Jerry Rig, and the guy had a pretty fun jab at Apple and USB C lol
#53 Finn
EclipseLion wrote:
Finn wrote:> Apparently Genshin Impact is making the Iphone 15 run super hot and really taxes> the phone. Not sure sure they are going to be able to run AAA games without Apple> fundamentally changing the Iphones design. Then it can also be that Apple dropped> the ball with the 15. I mean it not taking much to overheat, it cracks super easy> and the titanium back scratches really easy. Nit something i would want to game on.> > When I hear people gaming on a iphone or Mac... I suppose phones in general I think> of those Viva La Dirt League videos when the guy walks in and wants a Mac to game> on.. funny stuff. Relevant: https://www.youtube.... Skip the preamble to 2:00
Rich is one that I watch regularly... there is always lots of preamble lol
But yeah it's crazy that they had to lower quality to increase yield. It sure sounds like anyone wanting to upgrade there iPhone should wait until next year. The other thing is the Pro and the Pro max have high speed USB controllers but the lesser phones are stuck at USB 2 speeds simply because they lack the better controller... this will be fixed next year I would assume. It also seems like the glass on the back of the Pro Max is the only variant of the phone that is extremely brittle. I watched Jerry Rig, and the guy had a pretty fun jab at Apple and USB C lol
27-Oct-23 11:42pm
#54 ryanflucas
Even as an Apple shareholder and semi-fan, I feel like all of this is moot until all games go cloud and we can play almost any cloud experience on any console.
Example: I have Xbox game pass and I load it up on a PS5. Sure being Sony brand, any Sony cloud service will run better but I should be able to play any cloud platform on any device. Or Xbox and PS cloud experience on an iPhone. As long as the hardware can keep up.
#54 ryanflucas
Even as an Apple shareholder and semi-fan, I feel like all of this is moot until all games go cloud and we can play almost any cloud experience on any console.
Example: I have Xbox game pass and I load it up on a PS5. Sure being Sony brand, any Sony cloud service will run better but I should be able to play any cloud platform on any device. Or Xbox and PS cloud experience on an iPhone. As long as the hardware can keep up.
1-Nov-23 9:24am
#56 DarkFact
Streaming services misunderstand what people want. They want access to the games they bought wherever they happen to be, they don't want access to a digital only platform where you can stream what you buy on that platform. Supposedly this crap is all licenses nowadays by their own words, right? Why is this so hard? You have license, you can play game.
#56 DarkFact
Streaming services misunderstand what people want. They want access to the games they bought wherever they happen to be, they don't want access to a digital only platform where you can stream what you buy on that platform. Supposedly this crap is all licenses nowadays by their own words, right? Why is this so hard? You have license, you can play game.
1-Nov-23 9:56am
#57 benstylus
DarkFact wrote:
Streaming services misunderstand what people want. They want access to the games they bought wherever they happen to be, they don't want access to a digital only platform where you can stream what you buy on that platform. Supposedly this crap is all licenses nowadays by their own words, right? Why is this so hard? You have license, you can play game.
The other option is they don't want to buy anything, they want it to be part of the cost of the streaming service. Like Netflix but games. Or gamepass but streaming instead of downloads.
That's honestly the only way I see streaming really taking off.
#57 benstylus
DarkFact wrote:
Streaming services misunderstand what people want. They want access to the games they bought wherever they happen to be, they don't want access to a digital only platform where you can stream what you buy on that platform. Supposedly this crap is all licenses nowadays by their own words, right? Why is this so hard? You have license, you can play game.
The other option is they don't want to buy anything, they want it to be part of the cost of the streaming service. Like Netflix but games. Or gamepass but streaming instead of downloads.
That's honestly the only way I see streaming really taking off.
1-Nov-23 10:21am
#58 DarkFact
Yeah, stuff like GPU with streaming makes sense too. But everyone's insistent stuff like Stadia deserves to be its own platform. Nope! You'd need Vudu-like pricing if you want that to happen, and vudu-like sales. All the time.
#58 DarkFact
Yeah, stuff like GPU with streaming makes sense too. But everyone's insistent stuff like Stadia deserves to be its own platform. Nope! You'd need Vudu-like pricing if you want that to happen, and vudu-like sales. All the time.
1-Nov-23 12:42pm
#59 benstylus
Exactly. If the games cost 1/5 the price, people would buy into the streaming platform. But paying full price PLUS a subscription just to play the game? You are living in a fantasy world.
#59 benstylus
Exactly. If the games cost 1/5 the price, people would buy into the streaming platform. But paying full price PLUS a subscription just to play the game? You are living in a fantasy world.
2-Nov-23 8:13pm
#60 DarkFact
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Half the framerate, PS4 resolution, touch controls, starting at $1000. Holy crap, I'm amazed
Reading the comments with a bunch of people amazed that a phone that costs a grand can give you a comparable experience to a PS4 game (with terrible controls) is a real eye-opener for me.
#60 DarkFact
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Half the framerate, PS4 resolution, touch controls, starting at $1000. Holy crap, I'm amazed
Reading the comments with a bunch of people amazed that a phone that costs a grand can give you a comparable experience to a PS4 game (with terrible controls) is a real eye-opener for me.
Full-scale console gaming coming to iPhone 15 Pro