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2-Oct-19 7:16pm
#1 Sun
Other thread was closed...so here we are.
Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
#1 Sun
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Other thread was closed...so here we are.
Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
11-Dec-22 1:52pm
#2 theJaw
@BucketofJustice Yeah, I just disagree entirely on literally everything you said other than they could have built up this match a little earlier. But yah, otherwise I just don't agree with you. But it's pointless to argue wrestling these days. All subjective, we all have what we dig and don't dig.
#2 theJaw
@BucketofJustice Yeah, I just disagree entirely on literally everything you said other than they could have built up this match a little earlier. But yah, otherwise I just don't agree with you. But it's pointless to argue wrestling these days. All subjective, we all have what we dig and don't dig.
11-Dec-22 2:01pm
#3 BucketofJustice
It's cool. We agree to disagree. No interest in arguing over wrestling again. If I want to see stupid crap like that I'll open up Twitter haha.
#3 BucketofJustice
It's cool. We agree to disagree. No interest in arguing over wrestling again. If I want to see stupid crap like that I'll open up Twitter haha.
11-Dec-22 2:03pm
#4 theJaw
Lol yah, that website is what made me so adverse to arguing about this stuff. The ol’ graps are ultimately all for fun.
#4 theJaw
Lol yah, that website is what made me so adverse to arguing about this stuff. The ol’ graps are ultimately all for fun.
11-Dec-22 2:08pm
#5 BucketofJustice
I agree with that. Nothing will suit everyone, but I'm glad there's so much of it out there. Also, there's always good in the bad stuff and bad in the good stuff. It's all perspective.
#5 BucketofJustice
I agree with that. Nothing will suit everyone, but I'm glad there's so much of it out there. Also, there's always good in the bad stuff and bad in the good stuff. It's all perspective.
13-Dec-22 12:55pm
#6 PizzaTheHutt
Pretty cool video. Rockstar wanted to make an ECW game, but they just needed to wait for Grand Theft Auto to take off because they knew it was gonna be a hit. Unfortunately ECW couldn't wait and Acclaim approached them and already had the money to offer.
https://www.youtube....
#6 PizzaTheHutt
Pretty cool video. Rockstar wanted to make an ECW game, but they just needed to wait for Grand Theft Auto to take off because they knew it was gonna be a hit. Unfortunately ECW couldn't wait and Acclaim approached them and already had the money to offer.
https://www.youtube....
13-Dec-22 8:45pm
#8 BucketofJustice
Allegedly, Vince wants to return to WWE, thinking he got bad advice from people when the scandals came out and everything would've blown over if he stayed. I hope he stays the hell away. WWE has been so much better without him. Also, new allegations and a lawsuit from a returning allegation happened... so I hope his genetic jackhammer keeps him busy forever and he can't come back.
#8 BucketofJustice
Allegedly, Vince wants to return to WWE, thinking he got bad advice from people when the scandals came out and everything would've blown over if he stayed. I hope he stays the hell away. WWE has been so much better without him. Also, new allegations and a lawsuit from a returning allegation happened... so I hope his genetic jackhammer keeps him busy forever and he can't come back.
14-Dec-22 10:47am
#9 gameremporium
BucketofJustice wrote:
Allegedly, Vince wants to return to WWE, thinking he got bad advice from people when the scandals came out and everything would've blown over if he stayed. I hope he stays the hell away. WWE has been so much better without him. Also, new allegations and a lawsuit from a returning allegation happened... so I hope his genetic jackhammer keeps him busy forever and he can't come back.
I just wrote about this! Saw yours and deleted mine lol....I agree VKM needs to stay away.
#9 gameremporium
BucketofJustice wrote:
Allegedly, Vince wants to return to WWE, thinking he got bad advice from people when the scandals came out and everything would've blown over if he stayed. I hope he stays the hell away. WWE has been so much better without him. Also, new allegations and a lawsuit from a returning allegation happened... so I hope his genetic jackhammer keeps him busy forever and he can't come back.
I just wrote about this! Saw yours and deleted mine lol....I agree VKM needs to stay away.
14-Dec-22 12:33pm
#10 PizzaTheHutt
Vince McMahon coming back, even if he didn't undo all of the changes Triple H made for the better in his absence, just might be enough to get me to stop watching. The company's stock dropped just from that news yesterday, and it hadn't even been confirmed yet, that should be all it takes to tell you he's not wanted anymore.
Tony Khan is probably breathing a sigh of relief at that news.
#10 PizzaTheHutt
Vince McMahon coming back, even if he didn't undo all of the changes Triple H made for the better in his absence, just might be enough to get me to stop watching. The company's stock dropped just from that news yesterday, and it hadn't even been confirmed yet, that should be all it takes to tell you he's not wanted anymore.
Tony Khan is probably breathing a sigh of relief at that news.
14-Dec-22 2:50pm
#12 BucketofJustice
This has to be great news for Tony Khan. AEW has great matches, but crap booking and it's been that way for most of this year. Great matches is always a good thing, but if it was the most important thing then RoH would've been flourishing for years and wouldn't have been sold off twice and we wouldn't have had to suffer through Chris Jericho: the Ocho. Tony needs to delegate a little bit more, and not delegate to his EVPs.
If Vince returns, and I don't know the law or anything but the amount of stock he still has leads me to think he can do whatever he wants, that company is in so much hot water. I'd also imagine the SEC would also get all up in that ass about it as well.
Mandy Rose getting released is some bullcrap, if you ask me.
#12 BucketofJustice
This has to be great news for Tony Khan. AEW has great matches, but crap booking and it's been that way for most of this year. Great matches is always a good thing, but if it was the most important thing then RoH would've been flourishing for years and wouldn't have been sold off twice and we wouldn't have had to suffer through Chris Jericho: the Ocho. Tony needs to delegate a little bit more, and not delegate to his EVPs.
If Vince returns, and I don't know the law or anything but the amount of stock he still has leads me to think he can do whatever he wants, that company is in so much hot water. I'd also imagine the SEC would also get all up in that ass about it as well.
Mandy Rose getting released is some bullcrap, if you ask me.
14-Dec-22 3:05pm
#13 PizzaTheHutt
Allegedly Mandy had been asking for her release for a while and wants to get out of the business. She most likely took a significant pay cut when sent down to NXT last year because she was unwilling to get vaccinated when the company was allowed to start hitting the road again and I guess she thought this was an easy way to recover some of that.
#13 PizzaTheHutt
Allegedly Mandy had been asking for her release for a while and wants to get out of the business. She most likely took a significant pay cut when sent down to NXT last year because she was unwilling to get vaccinated when the company was allowed to start hitting the road again and I guess she thought this was an easy way to recover some of that.
14-Dec-22 3:38pm
#14 theJaw
Do I have someone blocked in here? Or am I just missing the context as to why Vince not returning to WWE would be a relief to Khan? Admittedly feel like I'm missing something, cause I feel like Khan would relish in the infamously out-of-touch McMahon returning to WWE.
Meanwhile, I am gonna touch on the "crap booking" criticism for a sec. Obviously not intended to be an argument, I just type too much. But to be fair, ROH didn't flourish because they never got the backing to allow for that. Sinclair Broadcasting did nothing with the brand, so brand awareness was bottom of the barrel. It was a mistake to sell to them back in 2011. There's a reason Khan promoting the brand on a legitimate TV network has resulted in the 3 most-watched/ordered and most-attended ROH shows in the company's history. They were never going to receive a legitimate TV deal based on that alone, but I just don't agree that their reliance on great wrestling is the reason it didn't reach its potential. AEW's ratings and buyrates have either grown or stayed steady over their few years on TV, and WBD have praised its performance several times - so they're in no trouble, and have only reached the level they're at based mostly on great matches as opposed to consistently spectacular booking. I only mention all that because I enjoyed Jericho's ROH title run and the various ROH segments that'd pop up on AEW TV. In fact, I have no idea why people are so adverse to it - if Khan had never bought the ROH brand, we'd still have the same roster, same matches, mostly same stories. The general wrestling style didn't change, so it really is just the fact that the three letters "ROH" appear on programming and I'm not entirely sure what the issue is there, but folks have criticized it so oh well. Either way, I don't feel there is any true way to measure the quality of Tony Khan's booking in any objective way unless they start hemorrhaging their audience as opposed to growing it - so I don't think he NEEDS to start delegating right now (but totally respect anyone who feels otherwise). I mean, I wouldn't MIND seeing him delegate to other bookers, but I also don't have any HUGE issues with his booking thus far so can't say I'd care either way. I at least appreciate that he either nixes or vastly changes angles that aren't connecting with audiences.
All that said, enough folks have been critical of 2022 AEW so I may be in the minority here, I just don't feel they're in "creatively bankrupt" territory or are in any danger of overall failure.
ANYHOW, I'd also be pretty shocked if McMahon returned to WWE and really, really, really hope that doesn't happen. WWE is still working its way out of what actually WAS a creatively bankrupt era and I'd hate to seem them dip back into it. Also Mandy Rose getting released for being naked on the internet is a little goofy. I mean, I get the reason they did it, but don't feel it should be a fire-able offense in the first place. If she wanted out of her contract, more power to her, but in a world where the Usos can drive drunk and still be awarded title after title, this seems like a silly reason to terminate somebody.
#14 theJaw
Do I have someone blocked in here? Or am I just missing the context as to why Vince not returning to WWE would be a relief to Khan? Admittedly feel like I'm missing something, cause I feel like Khan would relish in the infamously out-of-touch McMahon returning to WWE.
Meanwhile, I am gonna touch on the "crap booking" criticism for a sec. Obviously not intended to be an argument, I just type too much. But to be fair, ROH didn't flourish because they never got the backing to allow for that. Sinclair Broadcasting did nothing with the brand, so brand awareness was bottom of the barrel. It was a mistake to sell to them back in 2011. There's a reason Khan promoting the brand on a legitimate TV network has resulted in the 3 most-watched/ordered and most-attended ROH shows in the company's history. They were never going to receive a legitimate TV deal based on that alone, but I just don't agree that their reliance on great wrestling is the reason it didn't reach its potential. AEW's ratings and buyrates have either grown or stayed steady over their few years on TV, and WBD have praised its performance several times - so they're in no trouble, and have only reached the level they're at based mostly on great matches as opposed to consistently spectacular booking. I only mention all that because I enjoyed Jericho's ROH title run and the various ROH segments that'd pop up on AEW TV. In fact, I have no idea why people are so adverse to it - if Khan had never bought the ROH brand, we'd still have the same roster, same matches, mostly same stories. The general wrestling style didn't change, so it really is just the fact that the three letters "ROH" appear on programming and I'm not entirely sure what the issue is there, but folks have criticized it so oh well. Either way, I don't feel there is any true way to measure the quality of Tony Khan's booking in any objective way unless they start hemorrhaging their audience as opposed to growing it - so I don't think he NEEDS to start delegating right now (but totally respect anyone who feels otherwise). I mean, I wouldn't MIND seeing him delegate to other bookers, but I also don't have any HUGE issues with his booking thus far so can't say I'd care either way. I at least appreciate that he either nixes or vastly changes angles that aren't connecting with audiences.
All that said, enough folks have been critical of 2022 AEW so I may be in the minority here, I just don't feel they're in "creatively bankrupt" territory or are in any danger of overall failure.
ANYHOW, I'd also be pretty shocked if McMahon returned to WWE and really, really, really hope that doesn't happen. WWE is still working its way out of what actually WAS a creatively bankrupt era and I'd hate to seem them dip back into it. Also Mandy Rose getting released for being naked on the internet is a little goofy. I mean, I get the reason they did it, but don't feel it should be a fire-able offense in the first place. If she wanted out of her contract, more power to her, but in a world where the Usos can drive drunk and still be awarded title after title, this seems like a silly reason to terminate somebody.
14-Dec-22 4:02pm
#15 PizzaTheHutt
theJaw wrote:
Do I have someone blocked in here? Or am I just missing the context as to why Vince not returning to WWE would be a relief to Khan? Admittedly feel like I'm missing something, cause I feel like Khan would relish in the infamously out-of-touch McMahon returning to WWE.
No we meant if Vince did return to WWE, that would probably be good news to Tony.
#15 PizzaTheHutt
theJaw wrote:
Do I have someone blocked in here? Or am I just missing the context as to why Vince not returning to WWE would be a relief to Khan? Admittedly feel like I'm missing something, cause I feel like Khan would relish in the infamously out-of-touch McMahon returning to WWE.
No we meant if Vince did return to WWE, that would probably be good news to Tony.
18-Dec-22 8:58pm
#17 PizzaTheHutt
This old debate again, WCW/nWo Revenge vs WWF No Mercy. Who ya got?
Personally I haven't played either in a long time, but I can't recall Revenge doing anything better than No Mercy, feature or gameplay-wise.
https://www.youtube....
#17 PizzaTheHutt
This old debate again, WCW/nWo Revenge vs WWF No Mercy. Who ya got?
Personally I haven't played either in a long time, but I can't recall Revenge doing anything better than No Mercy, feature or gameplay-wise.
https://www.youtube....
19-Dec-22 3:49pm
#18 beavis
Yea I think gameplay wise No Mercy wins hands down. It really comes down to what roster do you want to play with. I loved (love) them both. Such good memories with WCW vs NWO World Tour. I called around to every babbages/kaybe toys in the Charlotte area trying to find one in stock. Spent $85 on it and assuredly got my moneys worth with how much I played it.
Edit: really hope this AEW game lives up to my hype and brings back this classic wrestling gameplay style
#18 beavis
Yea I think gameplay wise No Mercy wins hands down. It really comes down to what roster do you want to play with. I loved (love) them both. Such good memories with WCW vs NWO World Tour. I called around to every babbages/kaybe toys in the Charlotte area trying to find one in stock. Spent $85 on it and assuredly got my moneys worth with how much I played it.
Edit: really hope this AEW game lives up to my hype and brings back this classic wrestling gameplay style
19-Dec-22 5:25pm
#19 BucketofJustice
I love both. I had more fun with friends when we played Revenge. No Mercy was a better game, in my opinion. Revenge will win for me now, and maybe later when my mood is different No Mercy may win.
I think AEW's game will be a decent foundation, but it won't be very good. Kind of like TNA had a solid foundation with their first game, and hopefully AEW will get to build on it where TNA was unable to.
#19 BucketofJustice
I love both. I had more fun with friends when we played Revenge. No Mercy was a better game, in my opinion. Revenge will win for me now, and maybe later when my mood is different No Mercy may win.
I think AEW's game will be a decent foundation, but it won't be very good. Kind of like TNA had a solid foundation with their first game, and hopefully AEW will get to build on it where TNA was unable to.
20-Dec-22 9:07pm
#20 BucketofJustice
I bought Billy Gunn shorts and a WWF lamp.
https://stashpages.u...
https://stashpages.u...
These are going to be awesome.
#20 BucketofJustice
I bought Billy Gunn shorts and a WWF lamp.
https://stashpages.u...
https://stashpages.u...
These are going to be awesome.
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