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14-Jan-22 4:58pm
#1
shadyfozzie
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Thought we could get a thread on some debatable topics that we could discuss as a group.. No Politics, just some fun debating about random stuff...

Topic #1: Which TV Show cast has the best overall body of work??

Basically, which show's cast/ensemble cast have had the most success in tv/movies? My answer is The Office..

If you go by the MAIN cast alone: Steve Carrell, John Krasinski and Ed Helms alone have had better careers than most casts of any TV show. Then you throw in Jenna Fisher, Mindy Kaling, Ellie Kemper, Criag Robinson and Rainn Wilson.. Even the background characters have been in lots of great movies (Brian Baumgartner, Oscar Nunez, Melora Hardin, BJ Novak, Leslie Baker and David Denman).

Thoughts?
14-Jan-22 6:12pm
#2
NeWsKiLLz
Quadruple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally

Cheers/Thread
14-Jan-22 6:32pm
#3
DrizzDrizzDrizz
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Croatia

Fargo maybe
14-Jan-22 6:33pm
#4
SwiftJAB
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I would argue the SNL has probably has the best track record for creating talent that goes on to create a larger body of work. Steve Martin, Martin Short, Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Will Farrell, and so many more. Now, they've also had a much longer run time than The Office. If you're factoring in run time, I would say Freaks & Geeks probably falls in the top 3, at least for recent history.


14-Jan-22 7:12pm
#5
shadyfozzie
Triple Gold Good Trader

SwiftJAB wrote:
I would argue the SNL has probably has the best track record for creating talent that goes on to create a larger body of work. Steve Martin, Martin Short, Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Will Farrell, and so many more. Now, they've also had a much longer run time than The Office. If you're factoring in run time, I would say Freaks & Geeks probably falls in the top 3, at least for recent history.I didn't count SNL for that reason.. I'm talking more about syndicated sitcoms...
I don't think Cheers is that successful.. Ted Danson, Woody and Kelsey Grammer are the only three I can think of that went on to have great careers post-Cheers.
14-Jan-22 7:48pm
#6
mattyg00013
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Freaks and Geeks.
14-Jan-22 8:40pm
#7
sinnie
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Seinfeld for me. Still funny to this day and the show wouldn't have been quite right without the original main 4 characters.

14-Jan-22 8:41pm
#8
Anxiouz
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Like the above, I first read this as "best ensemble" but now see it is which group was or went on to be most successful. Which is a bit odd to think about.

SNL doesn't count as the cast changes every year and there is a new guest every week. That's like selecting Curb Your Enthusiasm which has loads of stars (over 10 years).


15-Jan-22 6:27am
#9
NeWsKiLLz
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shadyfozzie wrote:
SwiftJAB wrote:> I would argue the SNL has probably has the best track record for creating talent> that goes on to create a larger body of work. Steve Martin, Martin Short, Dana Carvey,> Mike Myers, Will Farrell, and so many more. Now, they've also had a much longer run> time than The Office. If you're factoring in run time, I would say Freaks & Geeks> probably falls in the top 3, at least for recent history.> > > I didn't count SNL for that reason.. I'm talking more about syndicated sitcoms... I don't think Cheers is that successful.. Ted Danson, Woody and Kelsey Grammer are the only three I can think of that went on to have great careers post-Cheers. Shelly Long was also in a bunch of hit movies and Kirstie Alley was still relevant until she recently came out as a conservative. I think you underestimate the cheers cast and body of work a bit because they're old and overrate The office nobodies who will also fade away.
15-Jan-22 8:01am
#10
Reed
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I'd like to suggest the topic of tipping for #2 debate
15-Jan-22 8:54am
#11
MrBean
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Reed wrote:
I'd like to suggest the topic of tipping for #2 debate
We got a Mr. Pink here (I do love this topic though).
15-Jan-22 6:13pm
#12
NeWsKiLLz
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I used to tip at minimum 20% and sometimes much higher but the service is consistently crap almost everywhere i go and the waiters look like they want to kill themselves. Now i choose to not even go out because of that. I also used to tip way too much at concerts for already overpriced drinks until one time a bar tender called me out for not dropping a tip in a bucket five minutes after putting a $5 in there. Now i just smoke and drink in my car before going in and don't buy alcohol there.

I support tipping good service but most service workers are entitled lazy craps so I avoid even going anywhere now.
15-Jan-22 7:44pm
#13
bonham2
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The Office is a good pick, but I would go with Seinfeld. 3 of the main cast have had great careers, with Julia Louis Dreyfuss being the most obvious choice. The supporting, recurring characters like Jerry Stiller, Estelle Harris, Wayne Knight, and Len Lessner are all obvious choices. Also, Larry David has to be included as multiple voiced characters. But then you add in the guest stars, and it's not even close. Courtney Cox, Jon Favreau, Denise Richards, Sarah Silverman, Brad Garrett, James Spader, Patton Oswalt, Jeanine Garofolo (spelling), and most of the cast of Breaking Bad (Bryan Cranston, Anna Gunn, and Bob Odenkirk).
16-Jan-22 4:28pm
#14
Sid_Ceaser
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Mickey Mouse club.

some idiot from club's past are always turning into successful actors or singers or whatever it seems like.





17-Jan-22 2:18pm
#15
Scott
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Parks and Recreation
17-Jan-22 3:54pm
#16
nonamesleft
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NeWsKiLLz wrote:
I used to tip at minimum 20% and sometimes much higher but the service is consistently crap almost everywhere i go and the waiters look like they want to kill themselves. Now i choose to not even go out because of that. I also used to tip way too much at concerts for already overpriced drinks until one time a bar tender called me out for not dropping a tip in a bucket five minutes after putting a $5 in there. Now i just smoke and drink in my car before going in and don't buy alcohol there. I support tipping good service but most service workers are entitled lazy craps so I avoid even going anywhere now. It's not always bad. Sometimes you do get good service.

Not long ago I went out to eat with a relative. We had a fantastic waitress. Really amazing attitude, and fantastic service. After the meal, I told her something like "I just want you to know that I was really impressed with your service and that you really made this a great experience." She looked very pleased. Then I said "I'm not just saying that. I mean it. I was really impressed." You could tell she was very happy to hear this.

I had no clue that her manager was standing right nearby and had heard the whole thing. He looks up and says, "yeah, she's the best."
17-Jan-22 5:02pm
#17
NeWsKiLLz
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nonamesleft wrote:
NeWsKiLLz wrote:> I used to tip at minimum 20% and sometimes much higher but the service is consistently> crap almost everywhere i go and the waiters look like they want to kill themselves.> Now i choose to not even go out because of that. I also used to tip way too much> at concerts for already overpriced drinks until one time a bar tender called me out> for not dropping a tip in a bucket five minutes after putting a $5 in there. Now> i just smoke and drink in my car before going in and don't buy alcohol there.> > I support tipping good service but most service workers are entitled lazy craps so> I avoid even going anywhere now. It's not always bad. Sometimes you do get good service. Not long ago I went out to eat with a relative. We had a fantastic waitress. Really amazing attitude, and fantastic service. After the meal, I told her something like "I just want you to know that I was really impressed with your service and that you really made this a great experience." She looked very pleased. Then I said "I'm not just saying that. I mean it. I was really impressed." You could tell she was very happy to hear this. I had no clue that her manager was standing right nearby and had heard the whole thing. He looks up and says, "yeah, she's the best."
For sure, they are out there but im just much happier eating at home. The food quality is even better because my wife can cook. I don't expect much from these people in the first place.
17-Jan-22 8:34pm
#18
Finn
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Scott wrote:
Parks and Recreation
I agree, great show awesome cast. That last season though absolutely did not need to exist.






17-Jan-22 10:07pm
#19
Scott
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Finn wrote:
Scott wrote:> Parks and Recreation I agree, great show awesome cast. That last season though absolutely did not need to exist.
I actually loved the final season. I love how it took place a few years in the future (relative to when the season released) and they kept making jokes about celebrities doing extremely unlikely things, like Kevin James being in the new Bourne movie lol. I really enjoyed all of the stuff with Gryzzl, and getting to see how everyone's lives turned out in the finale was great.
17-Jan-22 10:13pm
#20
shadyfozzie
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Finn wrote:
Scott wrote:> Parks and Recreation I agree, great show awesome cast. That last season though absolutely did not need to exist.Funny thing is that the show had 2 series endings.. the one after the unity concert, and then again in season 7. I thought that season was pretty good..probably my favorite show
17-Jan-22 10:18pm
#21
Scott
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shadyfozzie wrote:
Finn wrote:> Scott wrote: |>> Parks and Recreation> > I agree, great show awesome cast. That last season though absolutely did not need> to exist.> Funny thing is that the show had 2 series endings.. the one after the unity concert, and then again in season 7. I thought that season was pretty good..probably my favorite show
The unity concert was a great episode too!

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