Evercade Discussion Thread
18-Mar-21 8:52am
#1 benstylus
Place to discuss Evercade related stuff.
Secrets top-posted to keep them easy to find.
Hidden Evercade VS games
Cartridge Combinations (put a game in each slot, and it unlocks a secret game)
Atari Collection 1 + 2 = Dark Chambers (7800 version)
Atari Lynx Collection 1 + 2 = Raid on Tricity: Second Wave (Lynx version, obviously)
Piko Interactive Collection 1 + 2 = Pyramids of Ra (NES prototype/expanded version)
Gaelco Arcade 1 + Indie Heroes Collection 1 = Arkade Rush (NES homebrew)
Button Combinations on the main screen:
L2+R2+Select = Gotris (Sega Master System homebrew)
L1+R1+Up = NNNNNN (NES homebrew)
L1+R1+Down = Spacey McRacey (NES homebrew)
Secret Codes (Currently need to be entered every time, does not save unlocks)
SEIJIWASHERE unlocks Kubo 1 & 2
#1 benstylus
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Place to discuss Evercade related stuff.
Secrets top-posted to keep them easy to find.
Hidden Evercade VS games
Cartridge Combinations (put a game in each slot, and it unlocks a secret game)
Atari Collection 1 + 2 = Dark Chambers (7800 version)
Atari Lynx Collection 1 + 2 = Raid on Tricity: Second Wave (Lynx version, obviously)
Piko Interactive Collection 1 + 2 = Pyramids of Ra (NES prototype/expanded version)
Gaelco Arcade 1 + Indie Heroes Collection 1 = Arkade Rush (NES homebrew)
Button Combinations on the main screen:
L2+R2+Select = Gotris (Sega Master System homebrew)
L1+R1+Up = NNNNNN (NES homebrew)
L1+R1+Down = Spacey McRacey (NES homebrew)
Secret Codes (Currently need to be entered every time, does not save unlocks)
SEIJIWASHERE unlocks Kubo 1 & 2
17-Apr-24 6:01am
#201 benstylus
Renaissance2K wrote:
More hands and more games are good for the platform. It's just disappointing that they feel the need to adapt more recent, larger games when there are still so many great untapped 2D titles.
Obviously a big chunk of what they put out depends on the licenses they are able to get. Unfortunately, a lot of great games are locked in the vaults of companies who don't want to get out of bed without a guarantee of millions of dollars.
I agree that there are still hundreds of great 2D games out there, but I disagree with your premise that adapting more early 3D era titles is somehow less important. If anything I think the early 3D games have been far more overlooked in terms of modern accessibility.
For 2D, we have dozens of mini-consoles and handhelds covering all kinds of systems from the 70's to the 90's, including home consoles, computers, handhelds, and even arcade. There are services like Antstream that have hundreds of these games available. Companies like Atari, Capcom, Namco, Konami, Sega, SNK and others have released countless compilations of their games on current systems. The Arcade Archives series is still going strong.
For early 3D though?
We got PS1 downloads on PS3, which dried up to all but a trickle on PS4/5. We got the glorious failure that was the PlayStation Classic. We got a handful of N64 games on Wii and Wii U virtual console and now on Switch Online. There are almost no Saturn games converted to modern consoles or PC apart from a few Saturn Tribute releases and the Panzer Dragoon port included as an unlockable bonus in Orta (still available to buy on Xbox online store).
I would say early 3D games is a far more under-served market than 2D. Granted that could also be because even the best early 3D is a bit rough to look at compared to good 2D sprites, so maybe the actual demand for it is smaller, but is just as important an era in gaming and deserves better representation than it currently gets.
#201 benstylus
Renaissance2K wrote:
More hands and more games are good for the platform. It's just disappointing that they feel the need to adapt more recent, larger games when there are still so many great untapped 2D titles.
Obviously a big chunk of what they put out depends on the licenses they are able to get. Unfortunately, a lot of great games are locked in the vaults of companies who don't want to get out of bed without a guarantee of millions of dollars.
I agree that there are still hundreds of great 2D games out there, but I disagree with your premise that adapting more early 3D era titles is somehow less important. If anything I think the early 3D games have been far more overlooked in terms of modern accessibility.
For 2D, we have dozens of mini-consoles and handhelds covering all kinds of systems from the 70's to the 90's, including home consoles, computers, handhelds, and even arcade. There are services like Antstream that have hundreds of these games available. Companies like Atari, Capcom, Namco, Konami, Sega, SNK and others have released countless compilations of their games on current systems. The Arcade Archives series is still going strong.
For early 3D though?
We got PS1 downloads on PS3, which dried up to all but a trickle on PS4/5. We got the glorious failure that was the PlayStation Classic. We got a handful of N64 games on Wii and Wii U virtual console and now on Switch Online. There are almost no Saturn games converted to modern consoles or PC apart from a few Saturn Tribute releases and the Panzer Dragoon port included as an unlockable bonus in Orta (still available to buy on Xbox online store).
I would say early 3D games is a far more under-served market than 2D. Granted that could also be because even the best early 3D is a bit rough to look at compared to good 2D sprites, so maybe the actual demand for it is smaller, but is just as important an era in gaming and deserves better representation than it currently gets.
17-Apr-24 10:36am
#202 DCGX
Yeah they said their Capcom license had expired. And I've never used the mini-HDMI port either. It's kind of a nice-to-have feature rather than a necessity.
I don't mind the Giga Cart. It's not much more than a regular cart, and if we get more complex/beefier games, I'm for it. It just gives them more options for games. And considering how many carts they release in a year, I'm sure they'll dip back to the 2D stuff they haven't done yet. There will be a bigger variety and people can get what they want.
#202 DCGX
Yeah they said their Capcom license had expired. And I've never used the mini-HDMI port either. It's kind of a nice-to-have feature rather than a necessity.
I don't mind the Giga Cart. It's not much more than a regular cart, and if we get more complex/beefier games, I'm for it. It just gives them more options for games. And considering how many carts they release in a year, I'm sure they'll dip back to the 2D stuff they haven't done yet. There will be a bigger variety and people can get what they want.
17-Apr-24 2:21pm
#203 DCGX
Tomb Raider original trilogy is confirmed as the first Giga Cart. $24.99 with preorders opening at the end of the month, release in July: https://www.youtube....
It'll also be the pack-in for the R systems, each $99.99.
#203 DCGX
Tomb Raider original trilogy is confirmed as the first Giga Cart. $24.99 with preorders opening at the end of the month, release in July: https://www.youtube....
It'll also be the pack-in for the R systems, each $99.99.
17-Apr-24 3:43pm
#204 Renaissance2K
DCGX wrote:
Yeah they said their Capcom license had expired. And I've never used the mini-HDMI port either. It's kind of a nice-to-have feature rather than a necessity.
The one time I tried to use the HDMI on the handheld Evercade, it didn't work. I think I've seen some review videos saying it was really fussy. Even the one on the EXP has some sync and audio issues.
I'll still collect GigaCarts like I collect the vanilla ones (MegaCarts? KiloCarts?). I'm going to call shenanigans though if they start throwing 32-bit games on there that aren't actually significantly larger than some of the existing games they support. I think Tomb Raider is in the clear - the original makes for a 200+ MB EBOOT on the PlayStation Network - but some other PlayStation and Saturn games are really tiny once the CD audio is compressed.
In other words, I'm worried that this is an across-the-board price increase in disguise. Everything else has gone up in price. Why not Evercade carts?
#204 Renaissance2K
DCGX wrote:
Yeah they said their Capcom license had expired. And I've never used the mini-HDMI port either. It's kind of a nice-to-have feature rather than a necessity.
The one time I tried to use the HDMI on the handheld Evercade, it didn't work. I think I've seen some review videos saying it was really fussy. Even the one on the EXP has some sync and audio issues.
I'll still collect GigaCarts like I collect the vanilla ones (MegaCarts? KiloCarts?). I'm going to call shenanigans though if they start throwing 32-bit games on there that aren't actually significantly larger than some of the existing games they support. I think Tomb Raider is in the clear - the original makes for a 200+ MB EBOOT on the PlayStation Network - but some other PlayStation and Saturn games are really tiny once the CD audio is compressed.
In other words, I'm worried that this is an across-the-board price increase in disguise. Everything else has gone up in price. Why not Evercade carts?
17-Apr-24 4:01pm
#205 DCGX
Renaissance2K wrote:
DCGX wrote:> Yeah they said their Capcom license had expired. And I've never used the mini-HDMI> port either. It's kind of a nice-to-have feature rather than a necessity. The one time I tried to use the HDMI on the handheld Evercade, it didn't work. I think I've seen some review videos saying it was really fussy. Even the one on the EXP has some sync and audio issues. I'll still collect GigaCarts like I collect the vanilla ones (MegaCarts? KiloCarts?). I'm going to call shenanigans though if they start throwing 32-bit games on there that aren't actually significantly larger than some of the existing games they support. I think Tomb Raider is in the clear - the original makes for a 200+ MB EBOOT on the PlayStation Network - but some other PlayStation and Saturn games are really tiny once the CD audio is compressed. In other words, I'm worried that this is an across-the-board price increase in disguise. Everything else has gone up in price. Why not Evercade carts?
Yeah, possibly. I always thought $20 for these carts with their clamshell packaging and color booklets was too low (less because I buy from VGP in Canada). I guess time will tell.
#205 DCGX
Renaissance2K wrote:
DCGX wrote:> Yeah they said their Capcom license had expired. And I've never used the mini-HDMI> port either. It's kind of a nice-to-have feature rather than a necessity. The one time I tried to use the HDMI on the handheld Evercade, it didn't work. I think I've seen some review videos saying it was really fussy. Even the one on the EXP has some sync and audio issues. I'll still collect GigaCarts like I collect the vanilla ones (MegaCarts? KiloCarts?). I'm going to call shenanigans though if they start throwing 32-bit games on there that aren't actually significantly larger than some of the existing games they support. I think Tomb Raider is in the clear - the original makes for a 200+ MB EBOOT on the PlayStation Network - but some other PlayStation and Saturn games are really tiny once the CD audio is compressed. In other words, I'm worried that this is an across-the-board price increase in disguise. Everything else has gone up in price. Why not Evercade carts?
Yeah, possibly. I always thought $20 for these carts with their clamshell packaging and color booklets was too low (less because I buy from VGP in Canada). I guess time will tell.
19-Apr-24 10:42am
#208 DCGX
Renaissance2K wrote:
More hands and more games are good for the platform. It's just disappointing that they feel the need to adapt more recent, larger games when there are still so many great untapped 2D titles.
Here's more untapped 2D games you asked for: The Thalamus Collection 1 https://www.youtube....
I'm not familiar with any of these, nor the developer, but that's one reason I love the Evercade: the exposure. Sure, most games won't keep an average person's attention long nowadays, but it's cool to have. This comes out in July, so along with 'Tomb Raider,' those are the two July carts.
#208 DCGX
Renaissance2K wrote:
More hands and more games are good for the platform. It's just disappointing that they feel the need to adapt more recent, larger games when there are still so many great untapped 2D titles.
Here's more untapped 2D games you asked for: The Thalamus Collection 1 https://www.youtube....
I'm not familiar with any of these, nor the developer, but that's one reason I love the Evercade: the exposure. Sure, most games won't keep an average person's attention long nowadays, but it's cool to have. This comes out in July, so along with 'Tomb Raider,' those are the two July carts.
19-Apr-24 11:39am
#209 benstylus
They are a very well respected C64 developer so I am definitely excited with this announcement.
#209 benstylus
They are a very well respected C64 developer so I am definitely excited with this announcement.
19-Apr-24 12:46pm
#210 Renaissance2K
Yeah, that's good news. I never thought that they'd abandon the older games completely; it just felt like a low-hanging fruit decision from some suit or marketer that said, "Hey, why not release more cartridges with 3D games? Those games were so much cooler!"
I also want to know why some of the publishers with compulsive re-release behaviors - Sega, Capcom, etc. - don't have cartridges yet. I have a feeling the answer is "money", since it's the answer to everything else. I can see Sega saying something like, "$20 per cartridge? At that price, we can give you Sonic, Sonic 2, and Sonic Spinball on cartridge 1; cartridge 2 will have Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, and all combinations thereof; cartridge 3 will have Comix Zone and the Famicom version of Altered Beast..."
#210 Renaissance2K
Yeah, that's good news. I never thought that they'd abandon the older games completely; it just felt like a low-hanging fruit decision from some suit or marketer that said, "Hey, why not release more cartridges with 3D games? Those games were so much cooler!"
I also want to know why some of the publishers with compulsive re-release behaviors - Sega, Capcom, etc. - don't have cartridges yet. I have a feeling the answer is "money", since it's the answer to everything else. I can see Sega saying something like, "$20 per cartridge? At that price, we can give you Sonic, Sonic 2, and Sonic Spinball on cartridge 1; cartridge 2 will have Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, and all combinations thereof; cartridge 3 will have Comix Zone and the Famicom version of Altered Beast..."
19-Apr-24 8:14pm
#211 Yoshi
benstylus wrote:
They are a very well respected C64 developer so I am definitely excited with this announcement.Agreed. This one is also compatible with my game purchasing flow chart:
1. On Steam? If yes, buy there. If no...
2. On GOG? If yes, buy there. If no...
3. On Switch? If yes, buy there. If no...
4. On Evercade? If yes, buy there. If no...
5. I can wait. Return to 1.
#211 Yoshi
benstylus wrote:
They are a very well respected C64 developer so I am definitely excited with this announcement.Agreed. This one is also compatible with my game purchasing flow chart:
1. On Steam? If yes, buy there. If no...
2. On GOG? If yes, buy there. If no...
3. On Switch? If yes, buy there. If no...
4. On Evercade? If yes, buy there. If no...
5. I can wait. Return to 1.
20-Apr-24 8:23am
#212 DCGX
Renaissance2K wrote:
Yeah, that's good news. I never thought that they'd abandon the older games completely; it just felt like a low-hanging fruit decision from some suit or marketer that said, "Hey, why not release more cartridges with 3D games? Those games were so much cooler!" I also want to know why some of the publishers with compulsive re-release behaviors - Sega, Capcom, etc. - don't have cartridges yet. I have a feeling the answer is "money", since it's the answer to everything else. I can see Sega saying something like, "$20 per cartridge? At that price, we can give you Sonic, Sonic 2, and Sonic Spinball on cartridge 1; cartridge 2 will have Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, and all combinations thereof; cartridge 3 will have Comix Zone and the Famicom version of Altered Beast..."
Yeah, I have no doubt it's money, if they've been approached at all. Though Capcom had that long list of built-ins for the EXP, so maybe they aren't interested in a physical cart?
#212 DCGX
Renaissance2K wrote:
Yeah, that's good news. I never thought that they'd abandon the older games completely; it just felt like a low-hanging fruit decision from some suit or marketer that said, "Hey, why not release more cartridges with 3D games? Those games were so much cooler!" I also want to know why some of the publishers with compulsive re-release behaviors - Sega, Capcom, etc. - don't have cartridges yet. I have a feeling the answer is "money", since it's the answer to everything else. I can see Sega saying something like, "$20 per cartridge? At that price, we can give you Sonic, Sonic 2, and Sonic Spinball on cartridge 1; cartridge 2 will have Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, and all combinations thereof; cartridge 3 will have Comix Zone and the Famicom version of Altered Beast..."
Yeah, I have no doubt it's money, if they've been approached at all. Though Capcom had that long list of built-ins for the EXP, so maybe they aren't interested in a physical cart?
30-Apr-24 5:15am
#214 DCGX
Pre-orders are up for the July releases, and also a tate mode grip for the EXP models. Interesting.
#214 DCGX
Pre-orders are up for the July releases, and also a tate mode grip for the EXP models. Interesting.
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