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26-Oct-19 11:59pm
#1
MrBean
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Damn you targeted Facebook advertising. For the love of God I hope this is true. D2 remastered? Holy fudge yes!

https://www.ladbible...
16-Jun-22 8:45am
#81
MrBean
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Ha, well, news to me ... I played TL1 and 2, didn't even know there was a third.
16-Jun-22 9:10pm
#82
DarkFact
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It wasn't really advertised because It wasn't really supposed to be TL3 at all; at some point they scrapped their work on TL3, retooled this game to be TL-like and that's what it is now. TL-like TL3. It was heavily discounted very early (discounted right now in fact)
16-Jun-22 11:40pm
#83
Renaissance2K
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DarkFact wrote:
Ending was lame To Be Continued crap (no it won't), endgame is really stupid with a LOT of waiting unless you PVP which is REALLY REALLY stupid unless you're paying to win. Not a great game!
So, there's a legitimate campaign with a final boss and such?

16-Jun-22 11:48pm
#84
DarkFact
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Yeah, there's only one problem,

it's fudging called diablo and the campaign is just one massive cocktease and waste of fudging time

and I'm a big baby and have standards that aren't met. So basically even if you were pretty "meh" on D3's story and gameplay, suddenly it's gonna feel like some real deep crap. Because this was made to extract $25 from you while you're on the crapter at work and puts in the bare minimum to try and trick you into thinking this might be Diablo-like. There's just so many better choices in 2022, and most of them are very old. Old and better.
16-Jun-22 11:51pm
#85
MrBean
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Haha @DarkFact is my hero reading these posts and ultimately giving me confidence to stay away from this turd factory (as I drunkenly launch it on my phone after not touching since release)
16-Jun-22 11:52pm
#86
DarkFact
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I bet if you're heavily intoxicated you might get more out of it actually. And you can blame yourself instead of the crap UI

Just don't slip and trip on that buy button after the first dungeon, it's an 800% value for ONLY a dollar! You'd be a fool NOT to buy it! Right??????? please dont break the dam
18-Jun-22 4:55pm
#87
Finn
Quadruple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Canada

I was going to play, but I would rather not participate in a pay to win. I will wait for D4.

18-Jun-22 4:56pm
#88
Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader

You really don't think D4 will be heavily pay to win?
18-Jun-22 10:40pm
#89
DarkFact
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But, but, they said the money shop will be anchored around cosmetics and eventually expansions! basically everything short of saying "I mean, no, you can't buy power in the cash shop" for some reason!
18-Jun-22 10:55pm
#90
MrBean
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So many butt hurt gamers.

The D2, and basically every single MMOish ever, 3rd party market is on fire (and always has been). Blizzard caught flak with D3 for the RMAH, and feels like they can't shake it.

I made several thousand dollars off D2 back in the Day as a teenager, as did I on FFXIV and WoW. Everyone is cashing in, so why does Blizz get flak for it?

Many gamers are old, have kids and jobs, ultimately with little to no time that want to enjoy their random hour here and there. If I can spend a few bucks to cut down on dozens of hours of grind, absofudgeinlutely.
19-Jun-22 7:58am
#91
DarkFact
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I'd rather I wasn't getting my chicken kicked around in PVP because someone wanted to flex their wallet on me. Call me weird. Busy Dad just seems like an excuse to me. He's enabling degenerate behavior, I'd kindly ask that he keeps his ass away from my videogames, but he makes Blizzard more money so I guess fudge me for wanting to buy a game once and be done with it, huh? I'm just butthurt :p

This is why I'm upset with how gaming is going man. Bad decisions affect everyone and set precedent.
19-Jun-22 8:32am
#92
Kommie
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DarkFact wrote:
This is why I'm upset with how gaming is going man. Bad decisions affect everyone and set precedent.
You do know that. Um. Well. This may be a shocker. You don't have to play these games meant for pure monetization. Right?
19-Jun-22 8:34am
#93
DarkFact
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@Kommie This is infecting everything, that's my point lol. When was Diablo about opening your wallet
19-Jun-22 8:37am
#94
Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader

Times are changing, old man. There is still the option to not play it.

I remember seeing Diablo on PC in Hastings back in the day.
19-Jun-22 8:41am
#95
DarkFact
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I mean I don't have to do anything, I can just sit in a chair and stare at a wall
19-Jun-22 11:00am
#96
DarkFact
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19-Jun-22 11:21am
#97
Finn
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Kommie wrote:
You really don't think D4 will be heavily pay to win?
I don't. The Console/PC versions have never been that way. This pay to win is typically with mobile games, and Diablo Immortal while can be played on a PC is primarily a mobile game. I mean pay to win. I don't mind cosmetics,

I know D3 had a RMAU but at least you could make money and spend it... I remember spending money but only from what I sold, none was out of pocket. I never got the crap they took for by it. I am Soley against the pay to win and that's why I won't play. Games that put it in can get fudgeed.

Unless D4 goes live service I don't see it follow a mobile game modle. There will be hell to pay if you have to shell out $60 for a game that is pay to win.





19-Jun-22 11:36am
#98
MrBean
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DarkFact wrote:
@Kommie This is infecting everything, that's my point lol. When was Diablo about opening your wallet
I mean in fairness, even in the original D2 days, eBay was huge for D2 paying to win. I made quite a bit of money back then. Basically any online game that has items you can buy/sell/trade, there's a market.

Hell, Edlen Ring has a big market!
19-Jun-22 11:39am
#99
DarkFact
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It felt less insideous when the company wasn't designing the game to be paid into.
19-Jun-22 11:55am
#100
Finn
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MrBean wrote:
DarkFact wrote:> @Kommie This is infecting everything, that's my point lol. When was Diablo about> opening your wallet I mean in fairness, even in the original D2 days, eBay was huge for D2 paying to win. I made quite a bit of money back then. Basically any online game that has items you can buy/sell/trade, there's a market. Hell, Edlen Ring has a big market!

But you also had to deal with duping. Had a few buddies that bought items went to collect and got duped... There was no recourse.

Act/Bliz have ever. Patented a way for players to be put in situations against pay to win players and encourage them to spend...

https://www.google.c...


That is just crapty no matter how you slice it. if you are going to have pay to win then it needs to be separated from players that don't want to or make the odd transaction to support a game.





19-Jun-22 2:14pm
#101
MrBean
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Oh totally agreed, but there's no stopping it. I don't know of a single MMO that doesn't have an in game or 3rd party market. They exist because there is a demand. Whether it's average Joe, a sweat shop, full time gamer, or the publisher... Someone is gonna make money off these games, forever.

I'm not ashamed to say that I spent money on in game crap/service on several MMO/MMORPGs in my time. I wish I had an abundance of time to play, but I don't. If spending a few bucks avoids hours or days of tedious bullcrap grind? Game on.

These games will never do away the need to grind and farm, so it's a never ending vicious cycle no matter what.

Still, I haven't seen enough of Immortal to understand the current beef. It sounds like it's legit, more of a paywall than a pay to win - which agreed, that's some crap.

Yet if it's kept in check, on a quality game that has no upfront or monthly cost, it's only fair as they aren't working for free. Developers are in demand more than ever, and they're yielding insane salaries. Gotta keep the workforce content to keep making more content.

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