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20-Oct-16 10:16am
#1 citizen_zane
Originally created to share Nintendo friend codes and talk about the Nintendo Switch, this topic has now been broadened to the discussion of all things Nintendo. I'm still keeping the list updated here, so if you want to be added or make any changes, please PM me and I'll adjust the list.
Updated 10/27/21
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#1 citizen_zane
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Originally created to share Nintendo friend codes and talk about the Nintendo Switch, this topic has now been broadened to the discussion of all things Nintendo. I'm still keeping the list updated here, so if you want to be added or make any changes, please PM me and I'll adjust the list.
Updated 10/27/21
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6-Oct-23 10:04am
#2 theJaw
I think it's fairly evident that Nintendo hasn't really been too concerned with evolving the 2D Mario format for years at this point. As soon as they started in on the New Super Mario Bros series, they seemed content with just introducing a new power-up each game and pumping out levels that, while fun enough, never really broke the mold as far as the genre goes. In the old NES/SNES days, each 2D Mario seemed to introduce new elements to the actual gameplay and level design itself... NSMB always seemed like just more of the same in my opinion.
I feel like that was probably a direct result of the older generation of developers thinking that the majority of their eggs needed to be placed into the 3D Mario basket because they were around for the transition from 2D to 3D. Now it looks like some younger developers are reintroducing Nintendo to the idea that 2D platforming can be every bit as fun and innovative as it used to be, and that there really is a market of gamers who are still interested in that style of game.
So kudos to Nintendo for finally taking a chance in that realm. Here's hoping Wonder can meet the hype levels so we get more of this sorta thing.
#2 theJaw
I think it's fairly evident that Nintendo hasn't really been too concerned with evolving the 2D Mario format for years at this point. As soon as they started in on the New Super Mario Bros series, they seemed content with just introducing a new power-up each game and pumping out levels that, while fun enough, never really broke the mold as far as the genre goes. In the old NES/SNES days, each 2D Mario seemed to introduce new elements to the actual gameplay and level design itself... NSMB always seemed like just more of the same in my opinion.
I feel like that was probably a direct result of the older generation of developers thinking that the majority of their eggs needed to be placed into the 3D Mario basket because they were around for the transition from 2D to 3D. Now it looks like some younger developers are reintroducing Nintendo to the idea that 2D platforming can be every bit as fun and innovative as it used to be, and that there really is a market of gamers who are still interested in that style of game.
So kudos to Nintendo for finally taking a chance in that realm. Here's hoping Wonder can meet the hype levels so we get more of this sorta thing.
6-Oct-23 12:06pm
#3 KCPenguins
I'm prepared to be disappointed if I'm being honest. The player seems super overpowered and I haven't seen anything too challenging yet. I'm concerned the difficult areas/stages will be short and easily avoidable/nerfed from the little I saw.
#3 KCPenguins
I'm prepared to be disappointed if I'm being honest. The player seems super overpowered and I haven't seen anything too challenging yet. I'm concerned the difficult areas/stages will be short and easily avoidable/nerfed from the little I saw.
6-Oct-23 12:16pm
#4 benstylus
KCPenguins wrote:
I'm prepared to be disappointed if I'm being honest. The player seems super overpowered and I haven't seen anything too challenging yet. I'm concerned the difficult areas/stages will be short and easily avoidable/nerfed from the little I saw.
People make all kinds of challenges to increase difficulty of games after they have otherwise mastered it. Examples:
Get through the game without collecting any extra lives (extra hard: also forbidden from collecting 100 coins and getting an extra life that way)
Get through the game without taking any damage from bosses
Get through the game without using powerups
Play in 4 player co-op, and whenever any player loses a life, treat it as permadeath and they are out of the game.
You can make a whole YouTube or Twitch channel about crap like this.
Anytime someone complains that a game is too easy, I say that they lack imagination.
#4 benstylus
KCPenguins wrote:
I'm prepared to be disappointed if I'm being honest. The player seems super overpowered and I haven't seen anything too challenging yet. I'm concerned the difficult areas/stages will be short and easily avoidable/nerfed from the little I saw.
People make all kinds of challenges to increase difficulty of games after they have otherwise mastered it. Examples:
Get through the game without collecting any extra lives (extra hard: also forbidden from collecting 100 coins and getting an extra life that way)
Get through the game without taking any damage from bosses
Get through the game without using powerups
Play in 4 player co-op, and whenever any player loses a life, treat it as permadeath and they are out of the game.
You can make a whole YouTube or Twitch channel about crap like this.
Anytime someone complains that a game is too easy, I say that they lack imagination.
6-Oct-23 2:17pm
#5 theJaw
KCPenguins wrote:
I'm prepared to be disappointed if I'm being honest. The player seems super overpowered and I haven't seen anything too challenging yet. I'm concerned the difficult areas/stages will be short and easily avoidable/nerfed from the little I saw.
I don't feel like the trailers/released footage have really offered any indication one way or the other as far as difficulty goes. I could see it being either/or so far. I agree I'll be a bit disappointed if it's too easy... that's one of my main criticisms toward Mario Odyssey and the NSMB games -- way too easy. It's a modern Mario game, so I don't expect it to reach the same difficulty levels that a game like SMB3 reached at points, but I would like it to offer enough of a challenge so that I don't just run through the entire thing. But yah, I dunno, I can't really hinge my expectations on the difficulty from the footage we've seen so far. Hopefully the fact that there are designated "easy mode" characters means that there's a little more meat on the bone.
On a different note, my buddy gifted me No Man's Sky for Switch. I dug the game when I first got it a few months after it initially released -- the space travel is still my favorite from any game -- and I dug what I played of it about a year or so ago after all the updates... but I've never really fully immersed myself in it. With it being in the palm of my hand now, I expect I'll get into it much more this time around. I know the multiplayer elements patched into the game are missing from the Switch version, but that doesn't really bother me. Pretty crazy that they got it working this well on the Switch in the first place.
#5 theJaw
KCPenguins wrote:
I'm prepared to be disappointed if I'm being honest. The player seems super overpowered and I haven't seen anything too challenging yet. I'm concerned the difficult areas/stages will be short and easily avoidable/nerfed from the little I saw.
I don't feel like the trailers/released footage have really offered any indication one way or the other as far as difficulty goes. I could see it being either/or so far. I agree I'll be a bit disappointed if it's too easy... that's one of my main criticisms toward Mario Odyssey and the NSMB games -- way too easy. It's a modern Mario game, so I don't expect it to reach the same difficulty levels that a game like SMB3 reached at points, but I would like it to offer enough of a challenge so that I don't just run through the entire thing. But yah, I dunno, I can't really hinge my expectations on the difficulty from the footage we've seen so far. Hopefully the fact that there are designated "easy mode" characters means that there's a little more meat on the bone.
On a different note, my buddy gifted me No Man's Sky for Switch. I dug the game when I first got it a few months after it initially released -- the space travel is still my favorite from any game -- and I dug what I played of it about a year or so ago after all the updates... but I've never really fully immersed myself in it. With it being in the palm of my hand now, I expect I'll get into it much more this time around. I know the multiplayer elements patched into the game are missing from the Switch version, but that doesn't really bother me. Pretty crazy that they got it working this well on the Switch in the first place.
7-Oct-23 11:06am
#6 KCPenguins
So I was browsing the e-shop to see all the weird crap in it when I came across this:
https://en.m.wikiped...
How did I not know about this. I used to watch Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill movies when I was a kid. How on god's green earth did they end up as titular characters in a video game, and how did it do well enough to warrant a sequel!
I knew they were popular in Europe, but I never imagined they were THAT popular.
#6 KCPenguins
So I was browsing the e-shop to see all the weird crap in it when I came across this:
https://en.m.wikiped...
How did I not know about this. I used to watch Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill movies when I was a kid. How on god's green earth did they end up as titular characters in a video game, and how did it do well enough to warrant a sequel!
I knew they were popular in Europe, but I never imagined they were THAT popular.
7-Oct-23 11:37am
#7 PizzaTheHutt
KCPenguins wrote:
So I was browsing the e-shop to see all the weird crap in it when I came across this: https://en.m.wikiped... How did I not know about this. I used to watch Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill movies when I was a kid. How on god's green earth did they end up as titular characters in a video game, and how did it do well enough to warrant a sequel! I knew they were popular in Europe, but I never imagined they were THAT popular.
I saw that in the eShop a few weeks ago. I didn't know it was based on already existing characters, I thought it was just another indie dev trying to make their game sound goofy and stand out from the rest..
#7 PizzaTheHutt
KCPenguins wrote:
So I was browsing the e-shop to see all the weird crap in it when I came across this: https://en.m.wikiped... How did I not know about this. I used to watch Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill movies when I was a kid. How on god's green earth did they end up as titular characters in a video game, and how did it do well enough to warrant a sequel! I knew they were popular in Europe, but I never imagined they were THAT popular.
I saw that in the eShop a few weeks ago. I didn't know it was based on already existing characters, I thought it was just another indie dev trying to make their game sound goofy and stand out from the rest..
7-Oct-23 2:05pm
#8 KCPenguins
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
KCPenguins wrote:> So I was browsing the e-shop to see all the weird crap in it when I came across this:> > https://en.m.wikiped...> > How did I not know about this. I used to watch Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill movies> when I was a kid. How on god's green earth did they end up as titular characters> in a video game, and how did it do well enough to warrant a sequel!> > I knew they were popular in Europe, but I never imagined they were THAT popular. I saw that in the eShop a few weeks ago. I didn't know it was based on already existing characters, I thought it was just another indie dev trying to make their game sound goofy and stand out from the rest..
I feel like "slaps and beans" is a reference I can't recall from Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill's movies.
Thinking about it more, Terrence Hill slaps the crap out of multiple people in some of the movies and they are always eating beans. So Hill must be slaps and Bud is Beans.
So funny a game got made in the 2010's based on 2 european actors who were popular in the 1970s mostly making C level cheap westerns.
#8 KCPenguins
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
KCPenguins wrote:> So I was browsing the e-shop to see all the weird crap in it when I came across this:> > https://en.m.wikiped...> > How did I not know about this. I used to watch Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill movies> when I was a kid. How on god's green earth did they end up as titular characters> in a video game, and how did it do well enough to warrant a sequel!> > I knew they were popular in Europe, but I never imagined they were THAT popular. I saw that in the eShop a few weeks ago. I didn't know it was based on already existing characters, I thought it was just another indie dev trying to make their game sound goofy and stand out from the rest..
I feel like "slaps and beans" is a reference I can't recall from Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill's movies.
Thinking about it more, Terrence Hill slaps the crap out of multiple people in some of the movies and they are always eating beans. So Hill must be slaps and Bud is Beans.
So funny a game got made in the 2010's based on 2 european actors who were popular in the 1970s mostly making C level cheap westerns.
7-Oct-23 4:04pm
#9 KCPenguins
Another stupid e-shop quirk. My kid had a small amount of eshop funds left and wanted a Minecraft pack. He bought it. It started to download like a new game instead of dlc for Minecraft. Turns out at some point in time there was a Minecraft Nintendo Switch Edition which just changed to Minecraft.
The DLC in the eshop is just for the Switch edition of Minecraft, and does not work in plain Minecraft on Switch. So he has DLC for a version of Minecraft he cannot download.
What a load of crap. Take the stuff down, or warn purchasers they are buying DLC for a game they don't have installed. No clue how we were able to use eshop to purchase the Avatar Minecraft pack.
Why in the fudge would they allow the same game to be released twice on the same console, obsoleting the first release?
#9 KCPenguins
Another stupid e-shop quirk. My kid had a small amount of eshop funds left and wanted a Minecraft pack. He bought it. It started to download like a new game instead of dlc for Minecraft. Turns out at some point in time there was a Minecraft Nintendo Switch Edition which just changed to Minecraft.
The DLC in the eshop is just for the Switch edition of Minecraft, and does not work in plain Minecraft on Switch. So he has DLC for a version of Minecraft he cannot download.
What a load of crap. Take the stuff down, or warn purchasers they are buying DLC for a game they don't have installed. No clue how we were able to use eshop to purchase the Avatar Minecraft pack.
Why in the fudge would they allow the same game to be released twice on the same console, obsoleting the first release?
7-Oct-23 4:11pm
#10 SwiftJAB
Definitely need clear warnings about versions in that type of scenario. I'm pretty sure Nintendo would refund the purchase assuming it hasn't been too long.
#10 SwiftJAB
Definitely need clear warnings about versions in that type of scenario. I'm pretty sure Nintendo would refund the purchase assuming it hasn't been too long.
8-Oct-23 11:33am
#11 BloodPuppetX
Some good deals on Amazon right now. I got NMH 3 for $15:
https://www.amazon.c...
And Rhythm Festival for $10:
https://www.amazon.c...
Also saw Tactics Ogre for $25 and Metroid Dread for $30.
#11 BloodPuppetX
Some good deals on Amazon right now. I got NMH 3 for $15:
https://www.amazon.c...
And Rhythm Festival for $10:
https://www.amazon.c...
Also saw Tactics Ogre for $25 and Metroid Dread for $30.
8-Oct-23 11:33am
#12 KCPenguins
DragonBall FighterZ is under $15 on the eshop including the first DLC pack. I double dipped. It's a great MvC fighting clone.
#12 KCPenguins
DragonBall FighterZ is under $15 on the eshop including the first DLC pack. I double dipped. It's a great MvC fighting clone.
8-Oct-23 1:18pm
#14 PizzaTheHutt
Someone made a level in Super Mario Maker 2 that takes over 19 hours to beat. It's basically entering and re-entering pipes and using every bit of that 500 second timer.
https://www.youtube....
#14 PizzaTheHutt
Someone made a level in Super Mario Maker 2 that takes over 19 hours to beat. It's basically entering and re-entering pipes and using every bit of that 500 second timer.
https://www.youtube....
8-Oct-23 1:40pm
#15 KCPenguins
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
Someone made a level in Super Mario Maker 2 that takes over 19 hours to beat. It's basically entering and re-entering pipes and using every bit of that 500 second timer. https://www.youtube....
I think that is a shot across the bow of USS DGR.
#15 KCPenguins
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
Someone made a level in Super Mario Maker 2 that takes over 19 hours to beat. It's basically entering and re-entering pipes and using every bit of that 500 second timer. https://www.youtube....
I think that is a shot across the bow of USS DGR.
9-Oct-23 9:27am
#16 bonham2
Mario Wonder Jet Run Badge gameplay
https://youtu.be/jNr...
The game itself looks great. I don't know if I can handle the sound effects. The jumping noise is weird. The constant yells are annoying. Like Peach has 2 yells during her Wonder Seed time, and they just keep repeating. The music also sounds very uninspired, which is not like Mario at all.
I'm a little worried.
#16 bonham2
Mario Wonder Jet Run Badge gameplay
https://youtu.be/jNr...
The game itself looks great. I don't know if I can handle the sound effects. The jumping noise is weird. The constant yells are annoying. Like Peach has 2 yells during her Wonder Seed time, and they just keep repeating. The music also sounds very uninspired, which is not like Mario at all.
I'm a little worried.
9-Oct-23 9:50am
#17 benstylus
bonham2 wrote:
. The constant yells are annoying.
Super Mario Advance says hi
"OH, JUST WHAT I NEEDED!"
#17 benstylus
bonham2 wrote:
. The constant yells are annoying.
Super Mario Advance says hi
"OH, JUST WHAT I NEEDED!"
9-Oct-23 10:16am
#18 KCPenguins
bonham2 wrote:
Mario Wonder Jet Run Badge gameplay https://youtu.be/jNr... The game itself looks great. I don't know if I can handle the sound effects. The jumping noise is weird. The constant yells are annoying. Like Peach has 2 yells during her Wonder Seed time, and they just keep repeating. The music also sounds very uninspired, which is not like Mario at all. I'm a little worried.
"This video is private"
#18 KCPenguins
bonham2 wrote:
Mario Wonder Jet Run Badge gameplay https://youtu.be/jNr... The game itself looks great. I don't know if I can handle the sound effects. The jumping noise is weird. The constant yells are annoying. Like Peach has 2 yells during her Wonder Seed time, and they just keep repeating. The music also sounds very uninspired, which is not like Mario at all. I'm a little worried.
"This video is private"
9-Oct-23 10:17am
#19 KCPenguins
benstylus wrote:
bonham2 wrote:> . The constant yells are annoying. Super Mario Advance says hi "OH, JUST WHAT I NEEDED!"
https://m.youtube.co...
#19 KCPenguins
benstylus wrote:
bonham2 wrote:> . The constant yells are annoying. Super Mario Advance says hi "OH, JUST WHAT I NEEDED!"
https://m.youtube.co...
9-Oct-23 10:36am
#20 bonham2
KCPenguins wrote:
bonham2 wrote:> Mario Wonder Jet Run Badge gameplay> > https://youtu.be/jNr...> > The game itself looks great. I don't know if I can handle the sound effects. The> jumping noise is weird. The constant yells are annoying. Like Peach has 2 yells during> her Wonder Seed time, and they just keep repeating. The music also sounds very uninspired,> which is not like Mario at all.> > I'm a little worried. "This video is private"
Weird. They took it down and reposted
https://youtu.be/zkZ...
#20 bonham2
KCPenguins wrote:
bonham2 wrote:> Mario Wonder Jet Run Badge gameplay> > https://youtu.be/jNr...> > The game itself looks great. I don't know if I can handle the sound effects. The> jumping noise is weird. The constant yells are annoying. Like Peach has 2 yells during> her Wonder Seed time, and they just keep repeating. The music also sounds very uninspired,> which is not like Mario at all.> > I'm a little worried. "This video is private"
Weird. They took it down and reposted
https://youtu.be/zkZ...
9-Oct-23 11:48am
#21 theJaw
It sounds like they all have different jumping noises. I don't mind those too much. I could do without the yelling and whatnot, but it's not enough to worry me. The gameplay itself looks super fun.
I watched a video earlier today where the developers touched on the game's difficulty. Apparently one of the developers who has worked on every 2D Mario since the original SMB said that Wonder is the first one he couldn't 100% without help. It sounds like there are some decently difficult levels in the game, especially as you get closer to the end, with getting 100% (collecting/finding all the badges and secrets) being very difficult.
This does make me feel like the majority of the game will be fairly accessible as far as difficulty goes but it's nice to know that there are significantly harder portions.
#21 theJaw
It sounds like they all have different jumping noises. I don't mind those too much. I could do without the yelling and whatnot, but it's not enough to worry me. The gameplay itself looks super fun.
I watched a video earlier today where the developers touched on the game's difficulty. Apparently one of the developers who has worked on every 2D Mario since the original SMB said that Wonder is the first one he couldn't 100% without help. It sounds like there are some decently difficult levels in the game, especially as you get closer to the end, with getting 100% (collecting/finding all the badges and secrets) being very difficult.
This does make me feel like the majority of the game will be fairly accessible as far as difficulty goes but it's nice to know that there are significantly harder portions.
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