The New Movie/TV Trailers Thread - THE BOYS: SEASON 4
20-Jul-18 10:47am
#1 theJaw
POST. MOVIE. AND. TV. TRAILERS.
#1 theJaw
| This topic had many older posts which were moved here: http://gametz.com/Ge... |
POST. MOVIE. AND. TV. TRAILERS.
4-Aug-23 8:26am
#81 Grenadier
theJaw wrote:
While I agree there are people like that, the pal in question isn’t upset about the fact that these characters exist in the MCU, he just thinks Disney is presenting them in ways that pander too hard in order to meet some corporate quota.
You get that the two halves of this statement are contradictory right? He's basically saying "I'm not a racist, BUT...." He is exactly the kind of toxic fan we're talking about. Someone attacking the content while spouting off about "quotas" in terms of diversity is being actively racist. He's just trying to hide it behind buzzwords, which is par for the course right now.
#81 Grenadier
theJaw wrote:
While I agree there are people like that, the pal in question isn’t upset about the fact that these characters exist in the MCU, he just thinks Disney is presenting them in ways that pander too hard in order to meet some corporate quota.
You get that the two halves of this statement are contradictory right? He's basically saying "I'm not a racist, BUT...." He is exactly the kind of toxic fan we're talking about. Someone attacking the content while spouting off about "quotas" in terms of diversity is being actively racist. He's just trying to hide it behind buzzwords, which is par for the course right now.
4-Aug-23 9:47am
#82 theJaw
@Grenadier He's not racist and I know this for a fact. If he was racist, a movie like Everything Everywhere All At Once wouldn't be one of his favorites. One can feel a corporation is trying "too hard" to pander to the point of having a generally negative effect on the group of people in question, as opposed to being a genuine attempt at inclusivity, without that opinion being rooted in racism or bigotry. That said, the "pandering" comment he made to me was toward the MCU's female representation, so it wasn't even about race in the first place.
I'll put my essay in spoiler tags to save thread real estate:
The overt "girl power" team-up shots in Infinity War and Endgame (that I personally love) aside, he feels a show like She-Hulk went overboard with the "strong lady, bumbling men" trope instead of just writing a strong female character off her own merits. He suggests the writers didn't write a strong female character, they just wrote a female character in opposition to a bunch of poorly written male characters, which doesn't do a ton for either "side". While I enjoyed She-Hulk in a vacuum, I can honestly understand this opinion.
There's an adage in pro wrestling that a wrestler should never downplay the talents of their opponent, because if they then beat that opponent, they'd have only beaten someone they openly admitted wasn't talented. In order to come out on the other side looking truly strong, they'd want to beat an opponent who also looked strong. That concept can be applied to She-Hulk to an extent. A writer should write strong characters/villains so that the hero will come out the other side looking like a strong character. Writing the majority of men to either be buffoons, or to be so over-the-top villainous solely BECAUSE of their male identity, didn't necessarily make Jennifer Walters look like a strong female character - it just removed any nuance from the conflict and resulted in a "well, yeah, of course she's better than them" scenario. "Low hanging fruit", if you will. If you can pick it, that doesn't make you "tall", it just means you can reach the bottom branch. Instead of writing competent male characters for Jennifer Walters to seem superior or equal to, they wrote the men to be stereotypical idiots and/or monsters, which didn't really make the character herself look truly strong coming out the other side. I'm all for vilifying the weirdo incel community, I'm just not sure the hamfisted way this fourth wall-breaking comedy did was the best approach (even despite being thoroughly entertained watching it).
Like I said, I dug the show for the most part, but I also acknowledge that a lot of women I've personally talked to felt like it was an extremely neutered and dumbed down take on feminism designed solely to annoy as opposed to educate, with the fear that it would result in inevitable backlash and make the "movement" look bad. That's the "pandering" argument I can see parts of, even if I personally didn't feel miffed about it one way or the other. The backlash to a character like Rose Tico in the SW sequels, for example, is an entirely different story - a lot of the criticisms from the weirdo sect of the internet were solely BECAUSE she was another female main character in Star Wars, or because she was Asian, neither of which my pal in question agreed with.
#82 theJaw
@Grenadier He's not racist and I know this for a fact. If he was racist, a movie like Everything Everywhere All At Once wouldn't be one of his favorites. One can feel a corporation is trying "too hard" to pander to the point of having a generally negative effect on the group of people in question, as opposed to being a genuine attempt at inclusivity, without that opinion being rooted in racism or bigotry. That said, the "pandering" comment he made to me was toward the MCU's female representation, so it wasn't even about race in the first place.
I'll put my essay in spoiler tags to save thread real estate:
The overt "girl power" team-up shots in Infinity War and Endgame (that I personally love) aside, he feels a show like She-Hulk went overboard with the "strong lady, bumbling men" trope instead of just writing a strong female character off her own merits. He suggests the writers didn't write a strong female character, they just wrote a female character in opposition to a bunch of poorly written male characters, which doesn't do a ton for either "side". While I enjoyed She-Hulk in a vacuum, I can honestly understand this opinion.
There's an adage in pro wrestling that a wrestler should never downplay the talents of their opponent, because if they then beat that opponent, they'd have only beaten someone they openly admitted wasn't talented. In order to come out on the other side looking truly strong, they'd want to beat an opponent who also looked strong. That concept can be applied to She-Hulk to an extent. A writer should write strong characters/villains so that the hero will come out the other side looking like a strong character. Writing the majority of men to either be buffoons, or to be so over-the-top villainous solely BECAUSE of their male identity, didn't necessarily make Jennifer Walters look like a strong female character - it just removed any nuance from the conflict and resulted in a "well, yeah, of course she's better than them" scenario. "Low hanging fruit", if you will. If you can pick it, that doesn't make you "tall", it just means you can reach the bottom branch. Instead of writing competent male characters for Jennifer Walters to seem superior or equal to, they wrote the men to be stereotypical idiots and/or monsters, which didn't really make the character herself look truly strong coming out the other side. I'm all for vilifying the weirdo incel community, I'm just not sure the hamfisted way this fourth wall-breaking comedy did was the best approach (even despite being thoroughly entertained watching it).
Like I said, I dug the show for the most part, but I also acknowledge that a lot of women I've personally talked to felt like it was an extremely neutered and dumbed down take on feminism designed solely to annoy as opposed to educate, with the fear that it would result in inevitable backlash and make the "movement" look bad. That's the "pandering" argument I can see parts of, even if I personally didn't feel miffed about it one way or the other. The backlash to a character like Rose Tico in the SW sequels, for example, is an entirely different story - a lot of the criticisms from the weirdo sect of the internet were solely BECAUSE she was another female main character in Star Wars, or because she was Asian, neither of which my pal in question agreed with.
22-Aug-23 4:52pm
#83 theJaw
This is the movie Zack Snyder originally pitched as a Star Wars spin-off, but they didn't want to do an R-rated movie with no established SW characters, so he retooled it to be his own sandbox to play in. Looks pretty cliche, with an equally cliche premise. Classic "chosen one leads a vulnerable community against a tyrannical group lead by a big bad" story... so pretty much Star Wars, complete with what look to be lightsabers. Some of the visuals, especially the enemy designs, look pretty neat though.
I was hoping it'd have more of a Kurosawa feel to it considering Snyder claimed that he was a major inspiration (again, similar to George Lucas & Star Wars), but the lack of vibrant color is the only thing that reminds me of a Kurosawa movie here.
I'll give it a go since it'll be on Netflix, but I'm about 50/50 on how much I care. The Snyder nuts of the internet are sure to go wild for it though.
https://www.youtube....
#83 theJaw
This is the movie Zack Snyder originally pitched as a Star Wars spin-off, but they didn't want to do an R-rated movie with no established SW characters, so he retooled it to be his own sandbox to play in. Looks pretty cliche, with an equally cliche premise. Classic "chosen one leads a vulnerable community against a tyrannical group lead by a big bad" story... so pretty much Star Wars, complete with what look to be lightsabers. Some of the visuals, especially the enemy designs, look pretty neat though.
I was hoping it'd have more of a Kurosawa feel to it considering Snyder claimed that he was a major inspiration (again, similar to George Lucas & Star Wars), but the lack of vibrant color is the only thing that reminds me of a Kurosawa movie here.
I'll give it a go since it'll be on Netflix, but I'm about 50/50 on how much I care. The Snyder nuts of the internet are sure to go wild for it though.
https://www.youtube....
24-Aug-23 12:08am
#84 Best1989
https://youtu.be/Cm3...
Expendables 4
I don't know, it doesn't hype me that much. I like those janky over-the-top action movies, but I'm not feeling this one. I'll probably watch it anyway.
#84 Best1989
https://youtu.be/Cm3...
Expendables 4
I don't know, it doesn't hype me that much. I like those janky over-the-top action movies, but I'm not feeling this one. I'll probably watch it anyway.
5-Sep-23 9:21am
#87 theJaw
New Japanese Godzilla movie coming out. Looks like they did a mix of CG and practical effects for Godzilla himself, which may be a first? I know Shin Godzilla was still decently reliant on practical. Either way, this trailer gets me hyped. It looks great, even to the point that the human drama looks like it could be a highlight of the film (which obviously isn't usually the case).
https://www.youtube....
#87 theJaw
New Japanese Godzilla movie coming out. Looks like they did a mix of CG and practical effects for Godzilla himself, which may be a first? I know Shin Godzilla was still decently reliant on practical. Either way, this trailer gets me hyped. It looks great, even to the point that the human drama looks like it could be a highlight of the film (which obviously isn't usually the case).
https://www.youtube....
5-Sep-23 8:36pm
#88 MrBean
Stray is getting a movie. Immediately I said, "that's dumb" but then thought it might turn out ok. Could be a good movie for the kids.
https://ew.com/movie...
#88 MrBean
Stray is getting a movie. Immediately I said, "that's dumb" but then thought it might turn out ok. Could be a good movie for the kids.
https://ew.com/movie...
6-Sep-23 8:37am
#89 John
That's gotta be tough as far as marketing goes for them when the R-rated Strays movie just came out this year. I wonder how they'll title "Stray" to make it very clear that they aren't related. I think some people will assume they are at first.
#89 John
That's gotta be tough as far as marketing goes for them when the R-rated Strays movie just came out this year. I wonder how they'll title "Stray" to make it very clear that they aren't related. I think some people will assume they are at first.
7-Sep-23 11:42am
#91 Kommie
The Castlevania show always annoyed me slightly. It takes place in the 1800s or something but has the most modern meme style dialogue.
#91 Kommie
The Castlevania show always annoyed me slightly. It takes place in the 1800s or something but has the most modern meme style dialogue.
7-Sep-23 11:43am
#92 Foxhack
What is this, some kind of Castle Vania?
Edit: I suppose the dialogue being like that is due to it being written by Warren Ellis, who's always had that kind of talking in his books.
#92 Foxhack
What is this, some kind of Castle Vania?
Edit: I suppose the dialogue being like that is due to it being written by Warren Ellis, who's always had that kind of talking in his books.
7-Sep-23 12:13pm
#94 Foxhack
I'm not saying it wasn't. :)
Another person is writing the show now, so let's hope it doesn't suck.
#94 Foxhack
I'm not saying it wasn't. :)
Another person is writing the show now, so let's hope it doesn't suck.
8-Sep-23 10:25pm
#96 back4more
Monarch : Legacy of Monsters. Godzilla, Kurt Russell, Wyatt Russell, John Goodman. I'm in. Apple TV + has me a little nervous. Not that I think it will be bad, I just wonder if it'll be watered down. I wish it was a theater experience.
https://youtu.be/Xsj...
#96 back4more
Monarch : Legacy of Monsters. Godzilla, Kurt Russell, Wyatt Russell, John Goodman. I'm in. Apple TV + has me a little nervous. Not that I think it will be bad, I just wonder if it'll be watered down. I wish it was a theater experience.
https://youtu.be/Xsj...
24-Sep-23 2:03pm
#99 theJaw
Looks like the BBC finally gave Doctor Who a budget. This looks pretty awesome for Who fans.
https://www.youtube....
#99 theJaw
Looks like the BBC finally gave Doctor Who a budget. This looks pretty awesome for Who fans.
https://www.youtube....
24-Sep-23 6:49pm
#100 Grenadier
theJaw wrote:
Looks like the BBC finally gave Doctor Who a budget.
There were some quotes a while back that Disney+ being the new home for DW *greatly** increased the budget they have to work with at Bad Wolf Productions.
#100 Grenadier
theJaw wrote:
Looks like the BBC finally gave Doctor Who a budget.
There were some quotes a while back that Disney+ being the new home for DW *greatly** increased the budget they have to work with at Bad Wolf Productions.
24-Sep-23 6:51pm
#101 theJaw
Ohh that makes sense. I didn't even realize Doctor Who was in cahoots with Disney+, but that's probably good news for the show.
#101 theJaw
Ohh that makes sense. I didn't even realize Doctor Who was in cahoots with Disney+, but that's probably good news for the show.
The New Movie/TV Trailers Thread - THE BOYS: SEASON 4