MCU Discussion - Ant Man Up Next
7-Jun-21 4:10pm
#1 bonham2
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12-Sep-22 2:51pm
#81 razeak
Scott wrote:
razeak wrote:> @Scott It still has to be of SOME quality and good timing even if conceived as a> comedy, which is where I think Love & Thunder stumbled. MCU just got to the point> I'm shocked Tony Stark didn't make a quip when Peter Parker got snapped out of existence> like "Oh...SNAP!" or something else. lol. There are moments where levity is needed> in a story.> > I definitely have to watch Love and Thunder again at some point, because there was> a lot I did enjoy, and my wife hasn't watched it yet. I don't know, Ragnarok had a ton of humor. Based on the trailers for L&T I figured it was going to be even wackier and funnier, so no surprise there. That said, I still didn't think it was TOO funny. The movie handled a lot of serious moments without any humor, like Jane's cancer, Gorr's scene with his daughter in the very beginning, and Gorr's final scene. Like I mentioned, we've been re-watching all of the MCU in order. I wish I had thought of it sooner since we're already up to Age of Ultron, but I'm going to try to keep an eye out for humor during serious moments. I really feel like this has been blown out of proportion, and it's not done nearly as much as people claim. Here's the thing though, I don't think humor during a serious moment is automatically bad. It strongly depends on the nature of the serious moment, but a lot of the time, I think a little humor to break the silence/tension after something serious happens is fine. To be fair though, I love to laugh, and in superhero movies I'm mostly just looking for action and humor, not super serious stuff, so maybe I'm biased. I saw a comment on Reddit where they pointed out how this is common in real life. A lot of times, people handle serious stuff by making a joke. So why is it so bad in movies?
It isn't automatically bad, but it can be overdone, and that is where I feel MCU is at.
#81 razeak
Scott wrote:
razeak wrote:> @Scott It still has to be of SOME quality and good timing even if conceived as a> comedy, which is where I think Love & Thunder stumbled. MCU just got to the point> I'm shocked Tony Stark didn't make a quip when Peter Parker got snapped out of existence> like "Oh...SNAP!" or something else. lol. There are moments where levity is needed> in a story.> > I definitely have to watch Love and Thunder again at some point, because there was> a lot I did enjoy, and my wife hasn't watched it yet. I don't know, Ragnarok had a ton of humor. Based on the trailers for L&T I figured it was going to be even wackier and funnier, so no surprise there. That said, I still didn't think it was TOO funny. The movie handled a lot of serious moments without any humor, like Jane's cancer, Gorr's scene with his daughter in the very beginning, and Gorr's final scene. Like I mentioned, we've been re-watching all of the MCU in order. I wish I had thought of it sooner since we're already up to Age of Ultron, but I'm going to try to keep an eye out for humor during serious moments. I really feel like this has been blown out of proportion, and it's not done nearly as much as people claim. Here's the thing though, I don't think humor during a serious moment is automatically bad. It strongly depends on the nature of the serious moment, but a lot of the time, I think a little humor to break the silence/tension after something serious happens is fine. To be fair though, I love to laugh, and in superhero movies I'm mostly just looking for action and humor, not super serious stuff, so maybe I'm biased. I saw a comment on Reddit where they pointed out how this is common in real life. A lot of times, people handle serious stuff by making a joke. So why is it so bad in movies?
It isn't automatically bad, but it can be overdone, and that is where I feel MCU is at.
12-Sep-22 3:05pm
#82 beavis
Just watched Thor Love and Thunder and loved it. I've come to the realisation it's going to take a lot for me to hate these movies. I think there have only been two, second Thor and Moon Knight, that underwhelmed me.
#82 beavis
Just watched Thor Love and Thunder and loved it. I've come to the realisation it's going to take a lot for me to hate these movies. I think there have only been two, second Thor and Moon Knight, that underwhelmed me.
12-Sep-22 3:15pm
#83 Foxhack
beavis wrote:
Just watched Thor Love and Thunder and loved it. I've come to the realisation it's going to take a lot for me to hate these movies. I think there have only been two, second Thor and Moon Knight, that underwhelmed me.
In contrast, I had to stop Thor Love and Thunder 40 minutes in. I HATE Thor in this. He's too gosh darn stupid. What did Taika do to him?
#83 Foxhack
beavis wrote:
Just watched Thor Love and Thunder and loved it. I've come to the realisation it's going to take a lot for me to hate these movies. I think there have only been two, second Thor and Moon Knight, that underwhelmed me.
In contrast, I had to stop Thor Love and Thunder 40 minutes in. I HATE Thor in this. He's too gosh darn stupid. What did Taika do to him?
12-Sep-22 5:35pm
#84 shadyfozzie
Here's my take on why thor is like this in this movie:
If you look at the history of his story in the MCU, he never came to Earth until he was banished by Odin. In that time, he made friends with Jane and the Avengers. Over that time, some of their mannerisms definitely shaped him.
Move on to Ragnarok, where he loses his dad, his hammer, his eye and his home in a short period of time. That definitely took a toll on him mentally. Then, he lost almost everyone else (Loki, Heimdall) to Thanos. He couldn't kill Thanos before the snap, and he pretty much gave up and hit rock bottom (hello dad bod Thor).
Now in love and thunder, he spent a lot of time with the GOTG, where even though he was still finding himself, their demeanor and attitude towards everything was very childish and Blaise, so that obviously pulled thor in that direction.
As the movie progresses, you can see Thor become more humble and starting to begin transitioning back to some semblance of his past self, especially with the ending. Granted, he did appear goofier and less astute in this films beginning,but once he found a purpose to lead and fight, he turned back into badass thor.
I think his character arc came full circle by the end of L&T, and with all the new responsibility as well as having closure with one chapter of his life, I think he will return to his OG bad ass persona, but not without some of the humor still appearing from time to time.
#84 shadyfozzie
Here's my take on why thor is like this in this movie:
If you look at the history of his story in the MCU, he never came to Earth until he was banished by Odin. In that time, he made friends with Jane and the Avengers. Over that time, some of their mannerisms definitely shaped him.
Move on to Ragnarok, where he loses his dad, his hammer, his eye and his home in a short period of time. That definitely took a toll on him mentally. Then, he lost almost everyone else (Loki, Heimdall) to Thanos. He couldn't kill Thanos before the snap, and he pretty much gave up and hit rock bottom (hello dad bod Thor).
Now in love and thunder, he spent a lot of time with the GOTG, where even though he was still finding himself, their demeanor and attitude towards everything was very childish and Blaise, so that obviously pulled thor in that direction.
As the movie progresses, you can see Thor become more humble and starting to begin transitioning back to some semblance of his past self, especially with the ending. Granted, he did appear goofier and less astute in this films beginning,but once he found a purpose to lead and fight, he turned back into badass thor.
I think his character arc came full circle by the end of L&T, and with all the new responsibility as well as having closure with one chapter of his life, I think he will return to his OG bad ass persona, but not without some of the humor still appearing from time to time.
12-Sep-22 5:47pm
#85 beavis
Yea I thought his personality was very on point for the events that lead up to the movie and I'm kinda confused on the negative reaction to this.
#85 beavis
Yea I thought his personality was very on point for the events that lead up to the movie and I'm kinda confused on the negative reaction to this.
16-Sep-22 2:59pm
#86 theJaw
Definitely enjoying She-Hulk, this newest episode was fun. I really do enjoy the VERY ground-level vibe of the show, to the point where the main antagonist up to this point's only plot was to sue Jennifer over use of the name "She-Hulk", and the comedic way they go about that whole issue is a breath of fresh air for the MCU imo.
However, the tease at the end of this episode has me SLIGHTLY worried...
I obviously love Daredevil, comics and Netflix, and am looking forward to Born Again, but I question if She-Hulk was the right show to reintroduce the character. I know Murdock showed up in Spider-man: No Way Home, but Daredevil himself is going to appearing here. He's just such a grizzly character, grounded but in a much darker way and the overtly colorful, comedic tone of She-Hulk seems like a strange choice for him. I know Charlie Cox just went on record recently saying that Born Again will pretty much be a "whole new thing" compared to the Netflix show, so it's possible they're trying to ease us into that show's tone, but that just makes me question whether or not I'll love it as much as I'd like to.
Really just a small worry. MCU has a good enough track record that I have faith, it just seems like a REAL deviation from what we got previously.
#86 theJaw
Definitely enjoying She-Hulk, this newest episode was fun. I really do enjoy the VERY ground-level vibe of the show, to the point where the main antagonist up to this point's only plot was to sue Jennifer over use of the name "She-Hulk", and the comedic way they go about that whole issue is a breath of fresh air for the MCU imo.
However, the tease at the end of this episode has me SLIGHTLY worried...
I obviously love Daredevil, comics and Netflix, and am looking forward to Born Again, but I question if She-Hulk was the right show to reintroduce the character. I know Murdock showed up in Spider-man: No Way Home, but Daredevil himself is going to appearing here. He's just such a grizzly character, grounded but in a much darker way and the overtly colorful, comedic tone of She-Hulk seems like a strange choice for him. I know Charlie Cox just went on record recently saying that Born Again will pretty much be a "whole new thing" compared to the Netflix show, so it's possible they're trying to ease us into that show's tone, but that just makes me question whether or not I'll love it as much as I'd like to.
Really just a small worry. MCU has a good enough track record that I have faith, it just seems like a REAL deviation from what we got previously.
16-Sep-22 3:24pm
#87 Scott
shadyfozzie wrote:
Here's my take on why thor is like this in this movie: If you look at the history of his story in the MCU, he never came to Earth until he was banished by Odin. In that time, he made friends with Jane and the Avengers. Over that time, some of their mannerisms definitely shaped him. Move on to Ragnarok, where he loses his dad, his hammer, his eye and his home in a short period of time. That definitely took a toll on him mentally. Then, he lost almost everyone else (Loki, Heimdall) to Thanos. He couldn't kill Thanos before the snap, and he pretty much gave up and hit rock bottom (hello dad bod Thor). Now in love and thunder, he spent a lot of time with the GOTG, where even though he was still finding himself, their demeanor and attitude towards everything was very childish and Blaise, so that obviously pulled thor in that direction. As the movie progresses, you can see Thor become more humble and starting to begin transitioning back to some semblance of his past self, especially with the ending. Granted, he did appear goofier and less astute in this films beginning,but once he found a purpose to lead and fight, he turned back into badass thor. I think his character arc came full circle by the end of L&T, and with all the new responsibility as well as having closure with one chapter of his life, I think he will return to his OG bad ass persona, but not without some of the humor still appearing from time to time.
Agree 100% I think the next time we see Thor, he'll be more like the Thor of Ragnarok/Infinity War, which was his best IMO.
#87 Scott
shadyfozzie wrote:
Here's my take on why thor is like this in this movie: If you look at the history of his story in the MCU, he never came to Earth until he was banished by Odin. In that time, he made friends with Jane and the Avengers. Over that time, some of their mannerisms definitely shaped him. Move on to Ragnarok, where he loses his dad, his hammer, his eye and his home in a short period of time. That definitely took a toll on him mentally. Then, he lost almost everyone else (Loki, Heimdall) to Thanos. He couldn't kill Thanos before the snap, and he pretty much gave up and hit rock bottom (hello dad bod Thor). Now in love and thunder, he spent a lot of time with the GOTG, where even though he was still finding himself, their demeanor and attitude towards everything was very childish and Blaise, so that obviously pulled thor in that direction. As the movie progresses, you can see Thor become more humble and starting to begin transitioning back to some semblance of his past self, especially with the ending. Granted, he did appear goofier and less astute in this films beginning,but once he found a purpose to lead and fight, he turned back into badass thor. I think his character arc came full circle by the end of L&T, and with all the new responsibility as well as having closure with one chapter of his life, I think he will return to his OG bad ass persona, but not without some of the humor still appearing from time to time.
Agree 100% I think the next time we see Thor, he'll be more like the Thor of Ragnarok/Infinity War, which was his best IMO.
16-Sep-22 3:25pm
#88 Scott
I'm behind on 2 episodes of She-Hulk now. We've been trying to catch up on Cobra Kai, but I'm sure we'll get to them soon.
#88 Scott
I'm behind on 2 episodes of She-Hulk now. We've been trying to catch up on Cobra Kai, but I'm sure we'll get to them soon.
16-Sep-22 6:53pm
#89 bonham2
I'm really liking She-Hulk. I went into it knowing it wouls be cheesy, but I'm really liking the humor. If it was supposed to be serious with some goofy humor mixed in, I probably wouldn't like it that much.
#89 bonham2
I'm really liking She-Hulk. I went into it knowing it wouls be cheesy, but I'm really liking the humor. If it was supposed to be serious with some goofy humor mixed in, I probably wouldn't like it that much.
17-Sep-22 12:56am
#90 theJaw
I dunno, rewatching Love and Thunder now… I think folks were a bit too quick to judge the character himself based off the first half without taking the film as a whole. Thor is purposely acting dumb in the first half, that’s his personality, and he’s grown somewhat bored of his role in the universe. After being reacquainted with Jane and realizing the extent of her situation, he almost immediately snaps back into “mature” Thor. Almost the entire second half of the movie, at least starting from the veeeeeery awesome black & white fight scene, Thor is as much a “badass” as he’s ever been, and finally found himself able to care for others more than himself in a way he hadn’t yet achieved.
I think Thor arriving to Wakanda in Infinity War, with the whole “bring me Thanos” bit, was my favorite on-screen depiction so far, but also feel that’s rivaled by the last 30-40 minutes of Love and Thunder.
Also, I love Christian Bale in this movie, maybe the most unique performance he’s ever offered. But folks pretending like he was wasted due to the comedic tone in contrast to his character HAD to have ignored how over-the-top and scenery-chewing Gorr was throughout. He didn’t “quip”, but he was DEFINITELY goofy in plenty of his screen time. And then similar to the other characters, got real serious when it was appropriate.
Even Natalie Portman hit her performance well. I thought the scenes of her as cancer-riddled Jane were super emotional, and juxtaposed with her as The Mighty Thor was super satisfying.
It’s just a fun movie, I really, really can’t understand the MAJOR issues with it that some folks have. Yes, a few gags broke the weight of a scene during the first half, but it really wasn’t enough to kill the movie for me. The back half of this movie rules SO hard, and it wouldn’t have without what came prior imo.
#90 theJaw
I dunno, rewatching Love and Thunder now… I think folks were a bit too quick to judge the character himself based off the first half without taking the film as a whole. Thor is purposely acting dumb in the first half, that’s his personality, and he’s grown somewhat bored of his role in the universe. After being reacquainted with Jane and realizing the extent of her situation, he almost immediately snaps back into “mature” Thor. Almost the entire second half of the movie, at least starting from the veeeeeery awesome black & white fight scene, Thor is as much a “badass” as he’s ever been, and finally found himself able to care for others more than himself in a way he hadn’t yet achieved.
I think Thor arriving to Wakanda in Infinity War, with the whole “bring me Thanos” bit, was my favorite on-screen depiction so far, but also feel that’s rivaled by the last 30-40 minutes of Love and Thunder.
Also, I love Christian Bale in this movie, maybe the most unique performance he’s ever offered. But folks pretending like he was wasted due to the comedic tone in contrast to his character HAD to have ignored how over-the-top and scenery-chewing Gorr was throughout. He didn’t “quip”, but he was DEFINITELY goofy in plenty of his screen time. And then similar to the other characters, got real serious when it was appropriate.
Even Natalie Portman hit her performance well. I thought the scenes of her as cancer-riddled Jane were super emotional, and juxtaposed with her as The Mighty Thor was super satisfying.
It’s just a fun movie, I really, really can’t understand the MAJOR issues with it that some folks have. Yes, a few gags broke the weight of a scene during the first half, but it really wasn’t enough to kill the movie for me. The back half of this movie rules SO hard, and it wouldn’t have without what came prior imo.
21-Sep-22 9:04am
#91 Scott
Finally watched ep 4 of She-Hulk, I'm still really enjoying it. My only complaint is that we're supposed to believe it's hard for Tatiana Maslany to get a decent date, and that even some below average dudes wouldn't be that interested in her. lol @ "wongers".
#91 Scott
Finally watched ep 4 of She-Hulk, I'm still really enjoying it. My only complaint is that we're supposed to believe it's hard for Tatiana Maslany to get a decent date, and that even some below average dudes wouldn't be that interested in her. lol @ "wongers".
2-Oct-22 12:21am
#92 theJaw
Welp…. apparently Harrison Ford is taking over William Hurt’s role as Thunderbolt Ross in the Thunderbolts movie.
#RedHulkHarrisonPls
#92 theJaw
Welp…. apparently Harrison Ford is taking over William Hurt’s role as Thunderbolt Ross in the Thunderbolts movie.
#RedHulkHarrisonPls
2-Oct-22 4:51am
#93 HybridCRoW
It's hard for me to explain why I had mixed feelings about the new Thor movie, but what I can say is Thor was annoying as FACK that I feel I need to go back and re-watch the other Thor films to make sure he wasn't always this annoying. Despite appearances and being the bad guy, I liked Bale's performance.
As for She-Hulk, I'm enjoying it with one MAIN issue... the episodes are SO FREAKIN' SHORT!!!
Also, I am slightly annoyed w/ the whole dating thing... Perhaps it's because of my own personal history w/ dating, socializing, etc... but I'll get past all that.
#93 HybridCRoW
It's hard for me to explain why I had mixed feelings about the new Thor movie, but what I can say is Thor was annoying as FACK that I feel I need to go back and re-watch the other Thor films to make sure he wasn't always this annoying. Despite appearances and being the bad guy, I liked Bale's performance.
As for She-Hulk, I'm enjoying it with one MAIN issue... the episodes are SO FREAKIN' SHORT!!!
Also, I am slightly annoyed w/ the whole dating thing... Perhaps it's because of my own personal history w/ dating, socializing, etc... but I'll get past all that.
2-Oct-22 12:04pm
#94 bonham2
Finally watched Thor Love and Thunder. It really says something that it took me this long to finally get around to it. I also have mixed feelings. I feel like the Thor humor in Ragnorak and Infinity War was good because Thor still took himself seriously. The jokes were more at Thor's expense because he took himself so seriously. The Thor humor in Infinity War came more from the Guardians, which is in line with their characters. I really didn't like Thor in Endgame, but at least he got serious towards the end. A lot of L&T was just stupid, and Thor is a punchline at this point. I didn't like that they added a whole new off screen story between Thor and Jane...It made me feel like I missed a whole movie. Their relationship in this one just didn't work. And he went from the God of Thunder, future king of Asgard, and son of Odin to a pussy-whipped b*tch.
#94 bonham2
Finally watched Thor Love and Thunder. It really says something that it took me this long to finally get around to it. I also have mixed feelings. I feel like the Thor humor in Ragnorak and Infinity War was good because Thor still took himself seriously. The jokes were more at Thor's expense because he took himself so seriously. The Thor humor in Infinity War came more from the Guardians, which is in line with their characters. I really didn't like Thor in Endgame, but at least he got serious towards the end. A lot of L&T was just stupid, and Thor is a punchline at this point. I didn't like that they added a whole new off screen story between Thor and Jane...It made me feel like I missed a whole movie. Their relationship in this one just didn't work. And he went from the God of Thunder, future king of Asgard, and son of Odin to a pussy-whipped b*tch.
2-Oct-22 12:20pm
#95 bonham2
And in every other Thor movie, he has an arc. You could say Thor's arc is the best in the MCU (only rivaled by MAYBE Tony Stark). He goes from an egotistical narcissist that seeks out way for glory, to a worthy future king that learns to love. He goes from being the "Lord of Hammers" to being the true Lord of Thunder in Ragnorak. Then he deals with massive grief during and after Infinity War. He deals with the loss of his father, mother, brother, best friend, home planet, and half of his people, only followed by the biggest battle loss of his life when Thanos snaps his fingers (which Thor blames himself for)...his grief makes Wanda's seem silly by comparison.
What was his ark in this movie? Love is the most important thing? In fact, he loses over and over again against Gor, and then at the end, basically gives up because of love? I don't get it.
#95 bonham2
And in every other Thor movie, he has an arc. You could say Thor's arc is the best in the MCU (only rivaled by MAYBE Tony Stark). He goes from an egotistical narcissist that seeks out way for glory, to a worthy future king that learns to love. He goes from being the "Lord of Hammers" to being the true Lord of Thunder in Ragnorak. Then he deals with massive grief during and after Infinity War. He deals with the loss of his father, mother, brother, best friend, home planet, and half of his people, only followed by the biggest battle loss of his life when Thanos snaps his fingers (which Thor blames himself for)...his grief makes Wanda's seem silly by comparison.
What was his ark in this movie? Love is the most important thing? In fact, he loses over and over again against Gor, and then at the end, basically gives up because of love? I don't get it.
2-Oct-22 2:25pm
#96 theJaw
He’s grown bored of his role in the universe having defeated Thanos and treats life like a never ending vacation until he reunites with Jane Foster, who’s illness and inevitable death puts life itself back in perspective for Thor. He then realizes he needs to grow up and gains purpose by the end of the movie, both literally and metaphorically. Fairly straightforward arc tbh, I feel folks were just so blindsided by his goofy nature in the first half of the movie that it became the only thing that's really discussed when it comes to his character. He was more or less back to badass Thor for the whole second half of the movie.
#96 theJaw
He’s grown bored of his role in the universe having defeated Thanos and treats life like a never ending vacation until he reunites with Jane Foster, who’s illness and inevitable death puts life itself back in perspective for Thor. He then realizes he needs to grow up and gains purpose by the end of the movie, both literally and metaphorically. Fairly straightforward arc tbh, I feel folks were just so blindsided by his goofy nature in the first half of the movie that it became the only thing that's really discussed when it comes to his character. He was more or less back to badass Thor for the whole second half of the movie.
2-Oct-22 9:42pm
#97 bonham2
theJaw wrote:
He’s grown bored of his role in the universe having defeated Thanos and treats life like a never ending vacation until he reunites with Jane Foster, who’s illness and inevitable death puts life itself back in perspective for Thor. He then realizes he needs to grow up and gains purpose by the end of the movie, both literally and metaphorically. Fairly straightforward arc tbh, I feel folks were just so blindsided by his goofy nature in the first half of the movie that it became the only thing that's really discussed when it comes to his character. He was more or less back to badass Thor for the whole second half of the movie.
Was he? I seem to remember a one-sided conversation with Stormbreaker towards the end of the movie.
#97 bonham2
theJaw wrote:
He’s grown bored of his role in the universe having defeated Thanos and treats life like a never ending vacation until he reunites with Jane Foster, who’s illness and inevitable death puts life itself back in perspective for Thor. He then realizes he needs to grow up and gains purpose by the end of the movie, both literally and metaphorically. Fairly straightforward arc tbh, I feel folks were just so blindsided by his goofy nature in the first half of the movie that it became the only thing that's really discussed when it comes to his character. He was more or less back to badass Thor for the whole second half of the movie.
Was he? I seem to remember a one-sided conversation with Stormbreaker towards the end of the movie.
2-Oct-22 10:12pm
#98 theJaw
I mean of course the humor will still be there, that's the MCU, but despite a joke or two, once that black and white fight scene takes place, Thor is focused and honed in like he had been in the past. Admittedly, I didn't really notice that the first time I watched it and it took a re-watch to catch it. The first time through, I was a little more understanding of that particular criticism, but the after seeing it again I just can't help but disagree with it.
I imagine that's because I went into my second watch with a little bit more of analytical brain due to the backlash, instead of the first watch, where I just wanted to be entertained. I wanted to see if I thought it was really as bad as folks were saying so I actively paid harder attention to the way the character came off when I watched it again. There's definitely still humor but once the weight of the situation hits him (both the threat to the children and Jane's life situation), he snaps out of the more lackadaisical approach.
All that said, they did sort of drive the Stormbreaker joke into the ground, as well as the screaming goat stuff.
#98 theJaw
I mean of course the humor will still be there, that's the MCU, but despite a joke or two, once that black and white fight scene takes place, Thor is focused and honed in like he had been in the past. Admittedly, I didn't really notice that the first time I watched it and it took a re-watch to catch it. The first time through, I was a little more understanding of that particular criticism, but the after seeing it again I just can't help but disagree with it.
I imagine that's because I went into my second watch with a little bit more of analytical brain due to the backlash, instead of the first watch, where I just wanted to be entertained. I wanted to see if I thought it was really as bad as folks were saying so I actively paid harder attention to the way the character came off when I watched it again. There's definitely still humor but once the weight of the situation hits him (both the threat to the children and Jane's life situation), he snaps out of the more lackadaisical approach.
All that said, they did sort of drive the Stormbreaker joke into the ground, as well as the screaming goat stuff.
3-Oct-22 8:04am
#99 bonham2
I thought the goats were really funny (although definitely beaten into the ground a bit). I'm fine with that humor, and I'm fine with humor in general. Thor Ragnorak and Infinity War are two of my favorite MCU films, and they obviously had tons of humor. I just wish they didn't turn Thor, himself, into such a joke.
I know it has been mentioned before, but my other issue was how they treated the GotG. Why have him go with them and kind of take over as their leader at the end of Endgame if they were just going to recon that whole story? Honestly, I got some Rian Johnson Last Jedi vibes from this movie. It's like they had a story they wanted to tell but didn't care where Thor's story had led him after Endgame. Same thing with Jane Foster. They needed there to be more of a relationship to tell the story they wanted to tell, so they imagined it off screen.
#99 bonham2
I thought the goats were really funny (although definitely beaten into the ground a bit). I'm fine with that humor, and I'm fine with humor in general. Thor Ragnorak and Infinity War are two of my favorite MCU films, and they obviously had tons of humor. I just wish they didn't turn Thor, himself, into such a joke.
I know it has been mentioned before, but my other issue was how they treated the GotG. Why have him go with them and kind of take over as their leader at the end of Endgame if they were just going to recon that whole story? Honestly, I got some Rian Johnson Last Jedi vibes from this movie. It's like they had a story they wanted to tell but didn't care where Thor's story had led him after Endgame. Same thing with Jane Foster. They needed there to be more of a relationship to tell the story they wanted to tell, so they imagined it off screen.
3-Oct-22 9:12am
#100 Scott
I'm still enjoying She-Hulk, but I've been a little less into it for the last 2 or 3 episodes now. I was enjoying that it was more of a comedy, but I figured they were still building toward some sort of bigger storyline, maybe even a main villain. But now, there are only 2 episodes left and very little has actually happened. Hopefully it ends strong!
#100 Scott
I'm still enjoying She-Hulk, but I've been a little less into it for the last 2 or 3 episodes now. I was enjoying that it was more of a comedy, but I figured they were still building toward some sort of bigger storyline, maybe even a main villain. But now, there are only 2 episodes left and very little has actually happened. Hopefully it ends strong!
6-Oct-22 2:23pm
#101 theJaw
Just watched She Hulk Ep 8. It was fine but there are some iffy things.
So Daredevil IS the Netflix Daredevil, they even play some of the theme at one point, but Murdock has apparently grown into a much more "happy" guy. But boy, that CGI fighting doesn't hold a candle to the brutal Netflix fight scenes. I suppose this version of Daredevil works fine for the MCU and if we didn't get the Netflix show I doubt anyone would even be batting an eyelash at it, but I sort of feel like maybe they should have just recast the character if they weren't going to completely honor the tone that came previously. I mean Moon Knight got away with being a bit more dramatic, I'm not sure why Daredevil was slotted into the comedy/sitcom show other than the lawyer connection.
Charlie Cox is still great with what he does get to do, it's just very blatantly a different take. Oh well, that's just like how when new writers take over comics. I just hope they adjust it back just a bit in time for his own show. I did love the nod to the hallway scenes, and just having She Hulk take care of it in one second.
All that said, I still very much LIKE this take on Daredevil. Like I said, it's just different than what came before. In contrast, I really disliked their treatment of Kingpin in Hawkeye. Daredevil was nowhere near that level, it's still very much Daredevil and I'll always dig more Daredevil.
Otherwise it was a fine episode. I too think they could have integrated a bit more story into the one-off comedy episodes but I wasn't expecting that heading into the show so I can't say I'm let down by it. It's just that now that they're starting to build toward something within the last 3-4 episodes, I would have liked there to have been more of that to strengthen the stakes a bit. BUT I'm still enjoying it and I think if they stick the finale's landing, it still holds up as a real good time for me.
#101 theJaw
Just watched She Hulk Ep 8. It was fine but there are some iffy things.
So Daredevil IS the Netflix Daredevil, they even play some of the theme at one point, but Murdock has apparently grown into a much more "happy" guy. But boy, that CGI fighting doesn't hold a candle to the brutal Netflix fight scenes. I suppose this version of Daredevil works fine for the MCU and if we didn't get the Netflix show I doubt anyone would even be batting an eyelash at it, but I sort of feel like maybe they should have just recast the character if they weren't going to completely honor the tone that came previously. I mean Moon Knight got away with being a bit more dramatic, I'm not sure why Daredevil was slotted into the comedy/sitcom show other than the lawyer connection.
Charlie Cox is still great with what he does get to do, it's just very blatantly a different take. Oh well, that's just like how when new writers take over comics. I just hope they adjust it back just a bit in time for his own show. I did love the nod to the hallway scenes, and just having She Hulk take care of it in one second.
All that said, I still very much LIKE this take on Daredevil. Like I said, it's just different than what came before. In contrast, I really disliked their treatment of Kingpin in Hawkeye. Daredevil was nowhere near that level, it's still very much Daredevil and I'll always dig more Daredevil.
Otherwise it was a fine episode. I too think they could have integrated a bit more story into the one-off comedy episodes but I wasn't expecting that heading into the show so I can't say I'm let down by it. It's just that now that they're starting to build toward something within the last 3-4 episodes, I would have liked there to have been more of that to strengthen the stakes a bit. BUT I'm still enjoying it and I think if they stick the finale's landing, it still holds up as a real good time for me.
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