MCU Discussion - Ant Man Up Next
7-Jun-21 4:10pm
#1 bonham2
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26-Jul-22 8:56am
#41 Scott
theJaw wrote:
I expect Secret Wars will probably get knocked back to the following year, similar to Infinity War & Endgame.
I also feel like there will be another Spider-man somewhere toward the end of Phase 5 or beginning of 6, but Marvel can't announce those due to it technically being Sony's property.
Yeah, there will definitely be a Spider-Man movie in there
I can't wait to see all the stuff that fills in Phase 6.
Did you see Feige confirmed that Spider-Man and Daredevil will be handling the "street level" threats?
I'll keep watching new Spider-Man movies for as long as they make them, but after the way NWH ended, I'm honestly not that excited for the (near) future of Spider-Man. It's cool how they pulled off a "reset" for him, but I'm just having trouble getting excited for this step backward, after seeing Spider-Man do such huge things.
I also don't think the animated shows are on the timeline because they're not technically "canon". What If obviously "could" be depending on whether one wants to think that or not, but it's not really treated that way. Really, ANYthing could be, but if we're going by the "616" universe that acts as our anchor, I believe the animated stuff is off that timeline. It was originally announced that Spider-man: Freshman Year was going to be a prequel of sorts to Spider-man: Homecoming, but then they released visuals of Doc Ock and Scorpion, which wouldn't fit that timeline, and Norman Osborne is apparently Peter's mentor in that series. X-Men 97's Xavier possibly made an appearance in Multiverse of Madness via Patrick Stewart, but I also doubt that show will tie in at all. Interested to see how they handle Xavier in that show though, considering it's been confirmed a newly-designed Magneto will be the "leader" of the X-Men for the cartoon.
I thought I read a while back that Feige had said What If was canon. I could be remembering wrong though.
I'm looking forward to just about everything in Phase 5 more than I was looking forward to anything in Phase 4, though I did end up really enjoying a lot of phase 4 (while it had some serious flaws throughout). I think that was the Endgame hangover more than anything though - nothing seemed as important heading into Phase 4 and I just felt "well, I'll watch them when I watch them", but now with Phases 4-6 officially being dubbed "The Multiverse Saga" and with the two Avengers movies being announced, I'm back on the pre-release hype train.
I actually enjoyed Phase 4 a lot. Shang-Chi, No Way Home, and Love and Thunder were all great, Multiverse of Madness was really good, and Eternals and Black Widow were decent, not nearly as bad as many made them out to be IMO. On top of that, we got a lot of great shows that introduced some new characters and propelled some new storylines. I did have that feeling of "where is all of this going" like you referenced, but I could tell they were starting to build toward something, so I was fine with waiting and seeing. I'd say the Multiverse Saga is off to a much better start than the Infinity Saga. I'd watch Phase 4 over Phase 1 any day, and pretty easily over Phase 2 as well.
I'll give everything in Phase 5 a chance, I'm just not super excited for a lot of it at the moment. I liked Echo in Hawkeye, but didn't feel like she needed her own show. I never saw the original Blade movies, plus I'm pretty sure the new one is going to be rated R so I probably can't take my kids to see it, so that's why that one's not on my radar. I'm excited for another young hero in Ironheart simply because I'm sure my kids will enjoy that (like Ms Marvel), but it doesn't really excite me. I still haven't seen the original Daredevil show and I'm not sure I want to (looks a bit too R for my taste), but I want to be excited about the character and new show, so idk about that one. Finally, Captain America...I've always liked Sam Wilson / Falcon, but his show just did not sell me on him being Captain America, at all. I'd be a lot more excited if he had at least ended up getting the serum and was "enhanced", but a Captain America without the superhuman strength just sounds boring to me. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by that one though.
#41 Scott
theJaw wrote:
I expect Secret Wars will probably get knocked back to the following year, similar to Infinity War & Endgame.
I also feel like there will be another Spider-man somewhere toward the end of Phase 5 or beginning of 6, but Marvel can't announce those due to it technically being Sony's property.
Yeah, there will definitely be a Spider-Man movie in there
I can't wait to see all the stuff that fills in Phase 6. Did you see Feige confirmed that Spider-Man and Daredevil will be handling the "street level" threats?
I'll keep watching new Spider-Man movies for as long as they make them, but after the way NWH ended, I'm honestly not that excited for the (near) future of Spider-Man. It's cool how they pulled off a "reset" for him, but I'm just having trouble getting excited for this step backward, after seeing Spider-Man do such huge things.
I also don't think the animated shows are on the timeline because they're not technically "canon". What If obviously "could" be depending on whether one wants to think that or not, but it's not really treated that way. Really, ANYthing could be, but if we're going by the "616" universe that acts as our anchor, I believe the animated stuff is off that timeline. It was originally announced that Spider-man: Freshman Year was going to be a prequel of sorts to Spider-man: Homecoming, but then they released visuals of Doc Ock and Scorpion, which wouldn't fit that timeline, and Norman Osborne is apparently Peter's mentor in that series. X-Men 97's Xavier possibly made an appearance in Multiverse of Madness via Patrick Stewart, but I also doubt that show will tie in at all. Interested to see how they handle Xavier in that show though, considering it's been confirmed a newly-designed Magneto will be the "leader" of the X-Men for the cartoon.
I thought I read a while back that Feige had said What If was canon. I could be remembering wrong though.
I'm looking forward to just about everything in Phase 5 more than I was looking forward to anything in Phase 4, though I did end up really enjoying a lot of phase 4 (while it had some serious flaws throughout). I think that was the Endgame hangover more than anything though - nothing seemed as important heading into Phase 4 and I just felt "well, I'll watch them when I watch them", but now with Phases 4-6 officially being dubbed "The Multiverse Saga" and with the two Avengers movies being announced, I'm back on the pre-release hype train.
I actually enjoyed Phase 4 a lot. Shang-Chi, No Way Home, and Love and Thunder were all great, Multiverse of Madness was really good, and Eternals and Black Widow were decent, not nearly as bad as many made them out to be IMO. On top of that, we got a lot of great shows that introduced some new characters and propelled some new storylines. I did have that feeling of "where is all of this going" like you referenced, but I could tell they were starting to build toward something, so I was fine with waiting and seeing. I'd say the Multiverse Saga is off to a much better start than the Infinity Saga. I'd watch Phase 4 over Phase 1 any day, and pretty easily over Phase 2 as well.
I'll give everything in Phase 5 a chance, I'm just not super excited for a lot of it at the moment. I liked Echo in Hawkeye, but didn't feel like she needed her own show. I never saw the original Blade movies, plus I'm pretty sure the new one is going to be rated R so I probably can't take my kids to see it, so that's why that one's not on my radar. I'm excited for another young hero in Ironheart simply because I'm sure my kids will enjoy that (like Ms Marvel), but it doesn't really excite me. I still haven't seen the original Daredevil show and I'm not sure I want to (looks a bit too R for my taste), but I want to be excited about the character and new show, so idk about that one. Finally, Captain America...I've always liked Sam Wilson / Falcon, but his show just did not sell me on him being Captain America, at all. I'd be a lot more excited if he had at least ended up getting the serum and was "enhanced", but a Captain America without the superhuman strength just sounds boring to me. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by that one though.
26-Jul-22 8:58am
#42 Scott
theJaw wrote:
Foxhack wrote:> It's an era of the comics that isn't remembered very much by a lot of folks, except> for New Mutants fans. Magneto was their teacher during this time period, and they> show him respect in the current storylines. I only learned about this stuff a few> years before the MCU started so don't feel bad for not knowing about them. :) I may seek them out, they look very fun. RE: Wakanda Forever. Who's in the Black Panther suit? My thoughts: ... I think that'd be very neat, and very fitting given the end of the first Black Panther.
I like that idea
#42 Scott
theJaw wrote:
Foxhack wrote:> It's an era of the comics that isn't remembered very much by a lot of folks, except> for New Mutants fans. Magneto was their teacher during this time period, and they> show him respect in the current storylines. I only learned about this stuff a few> years before the MCU started so don't feel bad for not knowing about them. :) I may seek them out, they look very fun.
RE: Wakanda Forever. Who's in the Black Panther suit? My thoughts: ... I think that'd be very neat, and very fitting given the end of the first Black Panther.I like that idea
26-Jul-22 9:21am
#43 back4more
theJaw wrote:
Even the writers have come out and confirmed that Secret Wars was just a toy commercial haha. I love it too but ya gotta admit it was really just a mishmash of cool character designs. Plus the MCU always switches things up compared to the comics. Kang (and Jonathan Majors) rules, so I’m looking forward to what they give us. Fantastic Four comes first though, so I have to imagine Doom will be involved somehow.
If they can get a good, strong actor to pull off a villainous Doom, I’d be all on board with that.
#43 back4more
theJaw wrote:
Even the writers have come out and confirmed that Secret Wars was just a toy commercial haha. I love it too but ya gotta admit it was really just a mishmash of cool character designs. Plus the MCU always switches things up compared to the comics. Kang (and Jonathan Majors) rules, so I’m looking forward to what they give us. Fantastic Four comes first though, so I have to imagine Doom will be involved somehow.
If they can get a good, strong actor to pull off a villainous Doom, I’d be all on board with that.
26-Jul-22 11:02am
#44 Foxhack
back4more wrote:
If they can get a good, strong actor to pull off a villainous Doom, I’d be all on board with that.
Howard Stern already said he did some stuff as Doom... ;)
#44 Foxhack
back4more wrote:
If they can get a good, strong actor to pull off a villainous Doom, I’d be all on board with that.
Howard Stern already said he did some stuff as Doom... ;)
26-Jul-22 4:32pm
#45 Best1989
A video talking about old shows and movies, the proto-MCU if you want
https://www.youtube....
#45 Best1989
A video talking about old shows and movies, the proto-MCU if you want
https://www.youtube....
26-Jul-22 6:13pm
#46 Foxhack
Best1989 wrote:
A video talking about old shows and movies, the proto-MCU if you want https://www.youtube....
I watched those old Hulk movies on TV when they aired. That show is one of the reasons I like the character so much despite Marvel not knowing what to do with him anymore.
#46 Foxhack
Best1989 wrote:
A video talking about old shows and movies, the proto-MCU if you want https://www.youtube....
I watched those old Hulk movies on TV when they aired. That show is one of the reasons I like the character so much despite Marvel not knowing what to do with him anymore.
26-Jul-22 6:54pm
#47 back4more
Foxhack wrote:
back4more wrote:> If they can get a good, strong actor to pull off a villainous Doom, I’d be all on> board with that. Howard Stern already said he did some stuff as Doom... ;)
That’s scary :(
#47 back4more
Foxhack wrote:
back4more wrote:> If they can get a good, strong actor to pull off a villainous Doom, I’d be all on> board with that. Howard Stern already said he did some stuff as Doom... ;)
That’s scary :(
2-Aug-22 8:57pm
#48 bonham2
I still haven't seen Thor. I guess a combination of a busy life and lackluster reviews lowered my excitement.
I am not very excited for Sue Hulk. On one hand, I like how she's more closely related to the Netflix show world (being from Hell's Kitchen), and I love Tatiana Maslaney. Ok the other hand, the trailers have looked goofy af, and I really don't like Smart Hulk. My guess is he'll probably only be in one episode, although I could be wrong. I hope this one proves me wrong.
#48 bonham2
I still haven't seen Thor. I guess a combination of a busy life and lackluster reviews lowered my excitement.
I am not very excited for Sue Hulk. On one hand, I like how she's more closely related to the Netflix show world (being from Hell's Kitchen), and I love Tatiana Maslaney. Ok the other hand, the trailers have looked goofy af, and I really don't like Smart Hulk. My guess is he'll probably only be in one episode, although I could be wrong. I hope this one proves me wrong.
2-Aug-22 10:00pm
#49 Foxhack
Most of She-Hulk's run has been goofy in that fourth wall breaking way that Deadpool ripped off really hard. Nothing would make me laugh more than to see Ryan Reynolds Deadpool show up and get sued by Jen in a trial over it, but I know that won't happen.
#49 Foxhack
Most of She-Hulk's run has been goofy in that fourth wall breaking way that Deadpool ripped off really hard. Nothing would make me laugh more than to see Ryan Reynolds Deadpool show up and get sued by Jen in a trial over it, but I know that won't happen.
3-Aug-22 8:21am
#50 Scott
bonham2 wrote:
I still haven't seen Thor. I guess a combination of a busy life and lackluster reviews lowered my excitement.
Ignore the reviews and just see what you think yourself. Our tastes have seemed fairly similar, I bet you'll like it.
#50 Scott
bonham2 wrote:
I still haven't seen Thor. I guess a combination of a busy life and lackluster reviews lowered my excitement.
Ignore the reviews and just see what you think yourself. Our tastes have seemed fairly similar, I bet you'll like it.
3-Aug-22 8:34am
#51 DarkFact
I would never have sex with anyone not named Mark Ruffalo for the record, this Shulk dog can fudge off
#51 DarkFact
I would never have sex with anyone not named Mark Ruffalo for the record, this Shulk dog can fudge off
12-Aug-22 1:31pm
#52 Scott
Anyone else watch I Am Groot yet? I had read that they were going to be "shorts", but for some reason I was thinking like 15-20 minute episodes, with unconnected storylines. But no, they're very short, like 4 minutes each after you factor in the brief intro, and credits. There were kinda cute and funny, and my family had a good time watching them together, but they weren't anything special. I was hoping for some kind of fun adventure storyline for young Groot. Oh well. This one easily falls at the very bottom of my ranking.
#52 Scott
Anyone else watch I Am Groot yet? I had read that they were going to be "shorts", but for some reason I was thinking like 15-20 minute episodes, with unconnected storylines. But no, they're very short, like 4 minutes each after you factor in the brief intro, and credits. There were kinda cute and funny, and my family had a good time watching them together, but they weren't anything special. I was hoping for some kind of fun adventure storyline for young Groot. Oh well. This one easily falls at the very bottom of my ranking.
12-Aug-22 1:35pm
#53 Sid_Ceaser
I'm still hoping She Hulk is Green Ally McBeal with superheroes.
Crossing my fingers.
#53 Sid_Ceaser
I'm still hoping She Hulk is Green Ally McBeal with superheroes.
Crossing my fingers.
12-Aug-22 3:06pm
#54 Scott
I'm feeling pretty optimistic about She-Hulk. I think I'm going to end up liking it a lot.
#54 Scott
I'm feeling pretty optimistic about She-Hulk. I think I'm going to end up liking it a lot.
20-Aug-22 3:20pm
#55 Scott
Watched the first episode of She-Hulk last night, I thought it was great! If it keeps up with how good the first episode was, this could easily end up being one of my favorite MCU shows, up there with WandaVision and Loki. I love that it's a straight-up comedy, I like lots of humor in the MCU. I'm glad Hulk is in the show too. Hopefully he plays a big role in the rest of the series, and wasn't just there for the first episode. Hulk's "Smart Hulk" look is much better here than it was in Endgame. They definitely improved She-Hulk's CGI as well, I have no problems with it.
#55 Scott
Watched the first episode of She-Hulk last night, I thought it was great! If it keeps up with how good the first episode was, this could easily end up being one of my favorite MCU shows, up there with WandaVision and Loki. I love that it's a straight-up comedy, I like lots of humor in the MCU. I'm glad Hulk is in the show too. Hopefully he plays a big role in the rest of the series, and wasn't just there for the first episode. Hulk's "Smart Hulk" look is much better here than it was in Endgame. They definitely improved She-Hulk's CGI as well, I have no problems with it.
21-Aug-22 3:32pm
#57 theJaw
She Hulk is wonderful so far, I agree. Real fun stuff & yah, the CG is far better than the trailers.
Also apparently the space ship at the start of the episode is teasing a World War Hulk movie/show. That’d be badass.
#57 theJaw
She Hulk is wonderful so far, I agree. Real fun stuff & yah, the CG is far better than the trailers.
Also apparently the space ship at the start of the episode is teasing a World War Hulk movie/show. That’d be badass.
21-Aug-22 3:49pm
#58 Kommie
Well, it wasn't me! I have no interest in it either way. Why am I even watching this topic????? IGNORE.
#58 Kommie
Well, it wasn't me! I have no interest in it either way. Why am I even watching this topic????? IGNORE.
21-Aug-22 10:41pm
#59 bonham2
I was away this week. Just got back and watched She-Hulk. It was way better than I expected. I don't get the online hate. The CGI seems better than the trailer, although she still seems very uncanny vally-ish. I'll say it again...I absolutely love Tatiana Maslaney. I liked the show better when she was herself.
I agree with everything Scott said...and I even plussed you to counter @Kommie 's neg (I know he's reading this).
#59 bonham2
I was away this week. Just got back and watched She-Hulk. It was way better than I expected. I don't get the online hate. The CGI seems better than the trailer, although she still seems very uncanny vally-ish. I'll say it again...I absolutely love Tatiana Maslaney. I liked the show better when she was herself.
I agree with everything Scott said...and I even plussed you to counter @Kommie 's neg (I know he's reading this).
22-Aug-22 9:32am
#60 Scott
I guess a couple of the review bombers found our thread!
theJaw wrote:
Also apparently the space ship at the start of the episode is teasing a World War Hulk movie/show. That’d be badass.
I read that as well. I don't know much about that, but I know people on r/marvelstudios mention it very frequently. So I'm guessing it's a really cool storyline that could make for a great movie/show, I'm down for that.
bonham2 wrote:
I was away this week. Just got back and watched She-Hulk. It was way better than I expected. I don't get the online hate. The CGI seems better than the trailer, although she still seems very uncanny vally-ish. I'll say it again...I absolutely love Tatiana Maslaney. I liked the show better when she was herself.
Same here, she's great!
I agree with everything Scott said...and I even plussed you to counter @Kommie 's neg (I know he's reading this).
definitely.
#60 Scott
I guess a couple of the review bombers found our thread!
theJaw wrote:
Also apparently the space ship at the start of the episode is teasing a World War Hulk movie/show. That’d be badass.
I read that as well. I don't know much about that, but I know people on r/marvelstudios mention it very frequently. So I'm guessing it's a really cool storyline that could make for a great movie/show, I'm down for that.
bonham2 wrote:
I was away this week. Just got back and watched She-Hulk. It was way better than I expected. I don't get the online hate. The CGI seems better than the trailer, although she still seems very uncanny vally-ish. I'll say it again...I absolutely love Tatiana Maslaney. I liked the show better when she was herself.
Same here, she's great!
I agree with everything Scott said...and I even plussed you to counter @Kommie 's neg (I know he's reading this).
definitely.23-Aug-22 5:40pm
#61 razeak
Sooooo.....I touched in this in another thread, is it just quips, or is there actual comedy. Thor 4 really turned me off to the quips.
#61 razeak
Sooooo.....I touched in this in another thread, is it just quips, or is there actual comedy. Thor 4 really turned me off to the quips.
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