Diablo
26-Oct-19 11:59pm
#1 MrBean
Damn you targeted Facebook advertising. For the love of God I hope this is true. D2 remastered? Holy fudge yes!
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#1 MrBean
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Damn you targeted Facebook advertising. For the love of God I hope this is true. D2 remastered? Holy fudge yes!
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18-Jul-23 4:43pm
#221 Feeb
Seems silly that they are making quite a few changes to keep Uber Lilith stupid hard. Nerfing the builds that are honestly useless outside of her and making the group / carry not reward fully. I was expecting this and after spending quite a bit of time and gold respeccing to fight her I just got in a group with a cheese build. It’s a broken boss with an achievement tied to it on consoles that is not obtainable by most classes without a cheese, dozens more hours farming, tons of gold, days of trying etc
I probably only tried it wholeheartedly about 30 times over 3 days but it wasn’t happening with pulverize- and I felt that nerf was coming for shred- it did.
#221 Feeb
Seems silly that they are making quite a few changes to keep Uber Lilith stupid hard. Nerfing the builds that are honestly useless outside of her and making the group / carry not reward fully. I was expecting this and after spending quite a bit of time and gold respeccing to fight her I just got in a group with a cheese build. It’s a broken boss with an achievement tied to it on consoles that is not obtainable by most classes without a cheese, dozens more hours farming, tons of gold, days of trying etc
I probably only tried it wholeheartedly about 30 times over 3 days but it wasn’t happening with pulverize- and I felt that nerf was coming for shred- it did.
18-Jul-23 5:02pm
#222 Archer
brian9824 wrote:
Archer wrote:> I'm reading the massive patch notes for the season update. And I can not believe> how dumb these devs are. I'm not even going to bother checking out the season now.> > I glanced at them and didn't see anything to crazy, looks like a few changes to the most OP build interactions mostly, didn't see many nerfs, and saw lots of improvements, but they are still lacking in some important QOL and balance issues. What part of the patch notes did you think were dumb out of curiosity?
I mean, did you really read the patch notes? Everything was nerfed. They clearly have no idea how to address the balance issues in the game. Nor do they understand why people think the older games are fun to play.
Level scaling inside dungeons and most overworld territories has been adjusted in World Tiers III and IV. Monsters will begin to trail behind the player in Level after a certain point (up to a maximum of 5 Levels behind).
World Tier IV Example (this means far less xp for killing things in dungeons and the open world):
If the player’s Level is below 75, the monster’s Level is 75.
If the player’s Level is 76-80, the monster Level is 75.
If the player’s Level is 81, the monster’s Level is 76.
If the player’s Level is 82, the monster’s Level is 77, etc. (from this point the monsters will always be -5). A.K.A. No reason to kill anything in the open world now. Because you'll get 25% less experience for your effort.
We are adjusting bonus experience rewards for killing monsters that are a higher Level than the player. (this is a major nerf to xp gains for NM dungeons after they finally gave us a buff to them to make them worth playing)
Pre-Season of the Malignant bonuses:
1 Level higher: +15%.
2 Levels higher: +20%.
3+ Levels higher: +25%.
Post-Season of the Malignant:
1.5% bonus per Level up to 10 Levels.
Ex:
+1 level: +1.5%.
+2 levels: +3%.
+10 levels: +15%.
So when you ran a NM dungeon 3 levels above you or 20 levels above you, you were getting a 25% increase. Now 3 levels above you has gone from 25% to 4.5%. WTF. And now a 10 level higher is only 15% increase. Why not just drop WT5 with higher level monsters and a higher XP gain across the board. Like what in the actual fudge is their thought process on this stuff. Its anti player, anti fun, anti progression. No one wants to grind this game out for hundreds of hours because the loot is so bad. And there is so much down time between combat. So they decided to make level progression slower?
The Tortured Gift of Mysteries chest has had its cost increased to 250 Aberrant Cinders from 175.
First they buff the drops, then walk them back because people were getting "too good of drops". Then they increase the cost of the only chest that is worth your time. Instead of making all the other chests viable to open.
Removed a 20% chance to drop extra equipment item from Elite monsters outside of Nightmare Dungeons and Helltide. - Why? Instead of fixing how crapty the loot dropping system is they are just removing the places you can get extra drops from.
Strength: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Dexterity: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Intelligence: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Willpower: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
All builds with a weapon stat were just cut down by 25%. Meaning all your damage just got nered across the board on every build of every class. Because of course everyone stacks their main damage stat on their weapon for the buff.
Cooldown Reductions: Reduced by ~30% - All builds are now back to being resource management time sinks in late game. Even after farming to target those affixes to reduce your cooldowns so you can use your skills without having to wait so long. Well, not anymore.
The real kicker is in how dumb they are though is this:
Critical Strike Damage: Reduced by ~17%
Vulnerable Damage: Reduced by ~40%
Damage to Crowd Controlled Enemies: Decreased by ~30%
The three things you are required to have to even be able to kill anything end game, gets nerfed. Across the board for everyone. They are taking away the damage output making every attack and skill weaker via all sources. But refuse to increase mob density to make playing the game fun. Instead of fixing the issues with certain builds that exploit combination of things to get crazy high damage numbers. They are hurting everyone and making everyone weaker. All because two classes have balance issues with certain skills, that interact with vuln and crit in an odd way. Yeah, that makes sense.
So to recap, and without touching on any of class specific nerfs, they nerfed everyones damage across the board. Reduced xp gains to make the slog more of a slog. And are trying to prevent people from target farming loot. And didn't do anything to the horrid loot drop setup. Didn't address how bad the mob density is in 95% of the game. Didn't address how flawed affixes are, or re-rolling them.
I am 100% convinced they do not play their own game. Its like they don't really have any idea how to fix all the complaints they are getting about the actual game play. Either that, or they want this to be a GaaS game like Destiny 2. Were they expect people to just keep paying them money for a mediocre experience with false promises of it getting better down the road.
#222 Archer
brian9824 wrote:
Archer wrote:> I'm reading the massive patch notes for the season update. And I can not believe> how dumb these devs are. I'm not even going to bother checking out the season now.> > I glanced at them and didn't see anything to crazy, looks like a few changes to the most OP build interactions mostly, didn't see many nerfs, and saw lots of improvements, but they are still lacking in some important QOL and balance issues. What part of the patch notes did you think were dumb out of curiosity?
I mean, did you really read the patch notes? Everything was nerfed. They clearly have no idea how to address the balance issues in the game. Nor do they understand why people think the older games are fun to play.
Level scaling inside dungeons and most overworld territories has been adjusted in World Tiers III and IV. Monsters will begin to trail behind the player in Level after a certain point (up to a maximum of 5 Levels behind).
World Tier IV Example (this means far less xp for killing things in dungeons and the open world):
If the player’s Level is below 75, the monster’s Level is 75.
If the player’s Level is 76-80, the monster Level is 75.
If the player’s Level is 81, the monster’s Level is 76.
If the player’s Level is 82, the monster’s Level is 77, etc. (from this point the monsters will always be -5). A.K.A. No reason to kill anything in the open world now. Because you'll get 25% less experience for your effort.
We are adjusting bonus experience rewards for killing monsters that are a higher Level than the player. (this is a major nerf to xp gains for NM dungeons after they finally gave us a buff to them to make them worth playing)
Pre-Season of the Malignant bonuses:
1 Level higher: +15%.
2 Levels higher: +20%.
3+ Levels higher: +25%.
Post-Season of the Malignant:
1.5% bonus per Level up to 10 Levels.
Ex:
+1 level: +1.5%.
+2 levels: +3%.
+10 levels: +15%.
So when you ran a NM dungeon 3 levels above you or 20 levels above you, you were getting a 25% increase. Now 3 levels above you has gone from 25% to 4.5%. WTF. And now a 10 level higher is only 15% increase. Why not just drop WT5 with higher level monsters and a higher XP gain across the board. Like what in the actual fudge is their thought process on this stuff. Its anti player, anti fun, anti progression. No one wants to grind this game out for hundreds of hours because the loot is so bad. And there is so much down time between combat. So they decided to make level progression slower?
The Tortured Gift of Mysteries chest has had its cost increased to 250 Aberrant Cinders from 175.
First they buff the drops, then walk them back because people were getting "too good of drops". Then they increase the cost of the only chest that is worth your time. Instead of making all the other chests viable to open.
Removed a 20% chance to drop extra equipment item from Elite monsters outside of Nightmare Dungeons and Helltide. - Why? Instead of fixing how crapty the loot dropping system is they are just removing the places you can get extra drops from.
Strength: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Dexterity: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Intelligence: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Willpower: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
All builds with a weapon stat were just cut down by 25%. Meaning all your damage just got nered across the board on every build of every class. Because of course everyone stacks their main damage stat on their weapon for the buff.
Cooldown Reductions: Reduced by ~30% - All builds are now back to being resource management time sinks in late game. Even after farming to target those affixes to reduce your cooldowns so you can use your skills without having to wait so long. Well, not anymore.
The real kicker is in how dumb they are though is this:
Critical Strike Damage: Reduced by ~17%
Vulnerable Damage: Reduced by ~40%
Damage to Crowd Controlled Enemies: Decreased by ~30%
The three things you are required to have to even be able to kill anything end game, gets nerfed. Across the board for everyone. They are taking away the damage output making every attack and skill weaker via all sources. But refuse to increase mob density to make playing the game fun. Instead of fixing the issues with certain builds that exploit combination of things to get crazy high damage numbers. They are hurting everyone and making everyone weaker. All because two classes have balance issues with certain skills, that interact with vuln and crit in an odd way. Yeah, that makes sense.
So to recap, and without touching on any of class specific nerfs, they nerfed everyones damage across the board. Reduced xp gains to make the slog more of a slog. And are trying to prevent people from target farming loot. And didn't do anything to the horrid loot drop setup. Didn't address how bad the mob density is in 95% of the game. Didn't address how flawed affixes are, or re-rolling them.
I am 100% convinced they do not play their own game. Its like they don't really have any idea how to fix all the complaints they are getting about the actual game play. Either that, or they want this to be a GaaS game like Destiny 2. Were they expect people to just keep paying them money for a mediocre experience with false promises of it getting better down the road.
18-Jul-23 5:08pm
#223 Feeb
It’s bad. I’m glad I went ahead and hit 100. Loot honestly becomes a chore and mostly irrelevant outside of cosmetics / horse crap and that small chance for a better unique. It’s just a trip to the vendor to clean up bags to loot more trash. I started dodging gems after hitting the top tier- so what 25 levels? It’s like they just left 30 levels of empty content that was meant to be tier 5-6. The only true end goal seemingly Lilith or NM 100 is still mostly not reachable
#223 Feeb
It’s bad. I’m glad I went ahead and hit 100. Loot honestly becomes a chore and mostly irrelevant outside of cosmetics / horse crap and that small chance for a better unique. It’s just a trip to the vendor to clean up bags to loot more trash. I started dodging gems after hitting the top tier- so what 25 levels? It’s like they just left 30 levels of empty content that was meant to be tier 5-6. The only true end goal seemingly Lilith or NM 100 is still mostly not reachable
18-Jul-23 5:09pm
#224 Archer
Feeb wrote:
Did you guys get the deluxe / season pass edition? I would jump in if I had it probably.
I do, but the season pass stuff is dumb. I'm pretty sure its just cosmetics. It doesn't unlock the xp stuff or any of that. At least I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
EDIT: yeah just looked it up. You just get more cosmetics in the paid vs the free.
#224 Archer
Feeb wrote:
Did you guys get the deluxe / season pass edition? I would jump in if I had it probably.
I do, but the season pass stuff is dumb. I'm pretty sure its just cosmetics. It doesn't unlock the xp stuff or any of that. At least I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
EDIT: yeah just looked it up. You just get more cosmetics in the paid vs the free.
18-Jul-23 8:04pm
#225 MrBean
.... sweet, sounds like Season 1 is super awesome and completely a waste of time to just wait it out until they figure their crap out
Sounds like a plan to me, have plenty of other stuff I need to play anyway!
#225 MrBean
.... sweet, sounds like Season 1 is super awesome and completely a waste of time to just wait it out until they figure their crap out
Sounds like a plan to me, have plenty of other stuff I need to play anyway!
18-Jul-23 10:02pm
#228 MrBean
Feeb wrote:
The mobile game is pretty fun actually. Just tried it.
Immortals?
#228 MrBean
Feeb wrote:
The mobile game is pretty fun actually. Just tried it.
Immortals?
18-Jul-23 10:22pm
#229 Feeb
MrBean wrote:
Feeb wrote:> The mobile game is pretty fun actually. Just tried it. Immortals?
Yeah. Loaded it up on my phone / backbone. It’s pretty cool.
Edit: Ok it sucks. Just the classes are from D3. It’s silly swipey touchey junk.
#229 Feeb
MrBean wrote:
Feeb wrote:> The mobile game is pretty fun actually. Just tried it. Immortals?
Yeah. Loaded it up on my phone / backbone. It’s pretty cool.
Edit: Ok it sucks. Just the classes are from D3. It’s silly swipey touchey junk.
18-Jul-23 11:13pm
#230 MrBean
https://maxroll.gg/d...
The simple fact that it seems like leveling will be massively slowed down, big turn off. I spent too much damn time hitting 100 on the first round. Will wait to see what realistic times look like going forward.
#230 MrBean
https://maxroll.gg/d...
The simple fact that it seems like leveling will be massively slowed down, big turn off. I spent too much damn time hitting 100 on the first round. Will wait to see what realistic times look like going forward.
19-Jul-23 8:39am
#231 brian9824
MrBean wrote:
https://maxroll.gg/d... The simple fact that it seems like leveling will be massively slowed down, big turn off. I spent too much damn time hitting 100 on the first round. Will wait to see what realistic times look like going forward.
It also depends on how significant this is. NM dungeons might be best for gear, whispers for xp, etc.
Reward experience for completing Whispers in World Tiers III and IV has been significantly increased.
#231 brian9824
MrBean wrote:
https://maxroll.gg/d... The simple fact that it seems like leveling will be massively slowed down, big turn off. I spent too much damn time hitting 100 on the first round. Will wait to see what realistic times look like going forward.
It also depends on how significant this is. NM dungeons might be best for gear, whispers for xp, etc.
Reward experience for completing Whispers in World Tiers III and IV has been significantly increased.
19-Jul-23 8:43am
#232 Feeb
NM dungeons are 100% best for everything imo. I received one of every unique as a reward at least once. And the cow horse.
Helltides feel like a waste of lots of time- even knowing exactly where the mystery chest is using the online maps. The treasure goblins in helltide are much better to farm for gear chance.
In general try to find events, clear it , port to town, come back and try to do it again. Especially do this in helltide. If you see an event in a NM absolutely do it. Those are possibly the biggest exp chunk fast if you can do it efficiently.
#232 Feeb
NM dungeons are 100% best for everything imo. I received one of every unique as a reward at least once. And the cow horse.
Helltides feel like a waste of lots of time- even knowing exactly where the mystery chest is using the online maps. The treasure goblins in helltide are much better to farm for gear chance.
In general try to find events, clear it , port to town, come back and try to do it again. Especially do this in helltide. If you see an event in a NM absolutely do it. Those are possibly the biggest exp chunk fast if you can do it efficiently.
19-Jul-23 10:45am
#233 brian9824
Feeb wrote:
NM dungeons are 100% best for everything imo. I received one of every unique as a reward at least once. And the cow horse. Helltides feel like a waste of lots of time- even knowing exactly where the mystery chest is using the online maps. The treasure goblins in helltide are much better to farm for gear chance. In general try to find events, clear it , port to town, come back and try to do it again. Especially do this in helltide. If you see an event in a NM absolutely do it. Those are possibly the biggest exp chunk fast if you can do it efficiently.
Sounds like that is what they are trying to fix though, so that other things are more balanced. I'll be playing the season and unlocking the rewards but not going to crazy. haven't played Druid, Rogue, or Necro as i've been saving them for the seasons to give me something new.
I like to play D4 while watching TV and doing other stuff so i'm sure i'll have fun with it
#233 brian9824
Feeb wrote:
NM dungeons are 100% best for everything imo. I received one of every unique as a reward at least once. And the cow horse. Helltides feel like a waste of lots of time- even knowing exactly where the mystery chest is using the online maps. The treasure goblins in helltide are much better to farm for gear chance. In general try to find events, clear it , port to town, come back and try to do it again. Especially do this in helltide. If you see an event in a NM absolutely do it. Those are possibly the biggest exp chunk fast if you can do it efficiently.
Sounds like that is what they are trying to fix though, so that other things are more balanced. I'll be playing the season and unlocking the rewards but not going to crazy. haven't played Druid, Rogue, or Necro as i've been saving them for the seasons to give me something new.
I like to play D4 while watching TV and doing other stuff so i'm sure i'll have fun with it
19-Jul-23 10:57am
#234 Feeb
They made it way more beneficial to play the NM dungeons if I’m understanding correctly. The rewards are still there but better and mob exp is universally nerfed. They’ve made the helltide harder and rewards require longer to acquire. They’re pushing you to do the NM it seems- which honestly you should until you’re satisfactorily geared. Question is- for what? What to do after you’re geared etc but max your level and bang your head on the Uber boss?
Feels like PVP may be the only part with longevity right now.
#234 Feeb
They made it way more beneficial to play the NM dungeons if I’m understanding correctly. The rewards are still there but better and mob exp is universally nerfed. They’ve made the helltide harder and rewards require longer to acquire. They’re pushing you to do the NM it seems- which honestly you should until you’re satisfactorily geared. Question is- for what? What to do after you’re geared etc but max your level and bang your head on the Uber boss?
Feels like PVP may be the only part with longevity right now.
20-Jul-23 6:56am
#235 DarkFact
You guys ready to SLLLLOWWWWWW DOWNNNNNNN
I get that Vulnerable was way too powerful, but you'd think they could have ...buffed up other stuff. Very strange, you usually don't see ARPGs going out of their way to help their userbase kill crap slower and level up less quickly end to end. Very strange design choice to, as they said, "enable way more builds" by disabling most the others.
#235 DarkFact
You guys ready to SLLLLOWWWWWW DOWNNNNNNN
I get that Vulnerable was way too powerful, but you'd think they could have ...buffed up other stuff. Very strange, you usually don't see ARPGs going out of their way to help their userbase kill crap slower and level up less quickly end to end. Very strange design choice to, as they said, "enable way more builds" by disabling most the others.
20-Jul-23 7:46am
#236 Feeb
Ominous how they’re preserving the grind to cap and Lilith. Like that’s the plan.
#236 Feeb
Ominous how they’re preserving the grind to cap and Lilith. Like that’s the plan.
20-Jul-23 12:24pm
#237 Orlandu
Get the good reviews out of the way, wait for the playerbase to sink a ton of time into the game, then lay the groundwork to offer a way to pay to make the game less of a grind. Classic GAAS strategy.
#237 Orlandu
Get the good reviews out of the way, wait for the playerbase to sink a ton of time into the game, then lay the groundwork to offer a way to pay to make the game less of a grind. Classic GAAS strategy.
20-Jul-23 4:57pm
#238 Feeb
Blizzard has scheduled a town hall to address backlash over patch. Overwhelmingly negative reception and inevitable bleeding off of player base.
#238 Feeb
Blizzard has scheduled a town hall to address backlash over patch. Overwhelmingly negative reception and inevitable bleeding off of player base.
22-Jul-23 1:55pm
#239 Archer
Anyone actually playing the season? I haven't touched the game in about 2 weeks or so. And I'm not seeing anything positive about the season thus far. Thinking I may just shelf this for the long haul until next year, like season 3 or 4.
#239 Archer
Anyone actually playing the season? I haven't touched the game in about 2 weeks or so. And I'm not seeing anything positive about the season thus far. Thinking I may just shelf this for the long haul until next year, like season 3 or 4.
22-Jul-23 2:50pm
#240 Feeb
I decided to uninstall it. I’d like to max every class but I’m not touching it until they at least revert most of the changes. Supposedly some patch fixes in a week? And some not much later? Burned out mostly so I’d need a pretty good reason to return.
#240 Feeb
I decided to uninstall it. I’d like to max every class but I’m not touching it until they at least revert most of the changes. Supposedly some patch fixes in a week? And some not much later? Burned out mostly so I’d need a pretty good reason to return.
23-Jul-23 12:46pm
#241 brian9824
I am, some of the malignant hearts are really cool on my necro build, auto triggering corpse explosion and grasping tendrils when i walk by corpses, auto casting curses as an aura when enemies are around me, etc.
#241 brian9824
I am, some of the malignant hearts are really cool on my necro build, auto triggering corpse explosion and grasping tendrils when i walk by corpses, auto casting curses as an aura when enemies are around me, etc.
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