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4-Jan-23 5:55pm
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Heavyd814life
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The 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

Gold Star Shane12m Current Total: 893


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Starfield - 83
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Resident Evil 4 - 93
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


Silver Star Best1989 Current Total: 887


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Pikmin 4 - 87
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


Bronze Star Heavyd814life Current Total: 883


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Forza Motorsport - 85
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Street Fighter 6 - 92
9. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 81
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


4. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 880


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
5. Kerbal Space Program 2
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Skull and Bones


5. Boss Current Total: 878


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Lies of P - 80
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Starfield - 83
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Hogwarts Legacy - 84


6. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Forza Motorsport - 85
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
2. Pikmin 4 - 87


6. Scott Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars - 88
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85


6. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Glitched
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


7. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 872


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


7. Sefjwm Current Total: 872


Top 10:
1. Animal Well
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


8. Frank Current Total: 869


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Forza Motorsport - 85
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Unannounced Mario Movie Tie-In

Alternates:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Theatrhythm Final Bar - 87


9. Bonham2 Current Total: 867


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League


10. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 863


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon - 86
2. Starfield - 83


11. Tonymack21 Current Total: 861


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
5. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name - 78
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Pikmin 4 - 87
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96


12. EB Current Total: 857


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85


13. Roko Current Total: 853


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Rise of the Ronin
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. Tekken 8
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Pikmin 4 - 87
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


14. Lunar Current Total: 844


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse - 68
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 81
8. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie - 81
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 73
2. Wild Hearts - 79


15. Sailorneorune Current Total: 841


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon - 81
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 79
6. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
7. Master Detective Archives: Rain Code - 77
8. Street Fighter 6 - 92
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars - 88
2. WrestleQuest - 69


16. Ryan Current Total: 840


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Forza Motorsport - 85
3. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Redfall - 56
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Street Fighter 6 - 92
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


17. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 839


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
3. Dead Island 2 - 73
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
6. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
7. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. ONI: Road to the Mightiest Oni - 73
2. Process of Elimination - 70


18. SilverOwl Current Total: 833


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Forspoken - 64
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
10. Starfield - 83

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 73
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


19. Archer Current Total: 827


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Island 2 - 73
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
2. Oxenfree II: Lost Signals - 73


20. 3hitcombo Current Total: 821


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 79
5. Pikmin 4 - 87
6. Redfall - 56
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Starfield - 83
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star - 65
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


21. Cevil Current Total: 813


Top 10:
1. Clive 'N' Wrench - 52
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Sea of Stars - 88
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Forspoken - 64
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


22. Incubus421 Current Total: 786


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Starfield - 83


23. HybridCRoW Current Total: 779


Top 10:
1. A Space for the Unbound - 85
2. Atomic Heart - 70
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Forspoken - 64
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
8. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - 75
9. Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life - 72
10. Wild Hearts - 79

Alternates:
1. One Piece Odyssey - 73
2. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70


24. Jbjz Current Total: 766


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70
10. Street Fighter 6 - 92

Alternates:
1. Palworld
2. Paper Ghost Stories: Third Eye Open


25. Bogo Current Total: 759


Top 10:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Starfield - 83


26. SupremeSarna Current Total: 731


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Pikmin 4 - 87
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum - 34

Alternates:
1. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


27. Demonalcohol Current Total: 720


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Death Stranding 2
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
6. Hades II
7. Hollow Knight: Silksong
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Pikmin 4 - 87


28. SwiftJAB Current Total: 664


Top 10:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Forspoken - 64
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Dead Space - 89


29. Metsfan718 Current Total: 466


Top 10:
1. Call of Duty: Warzone Mobile
2. Crash Team Rumble - 67
3. Disney Illusion Island - 73
4. MrWang And Love
5. Peppa Pig: World Adventures - 72
6. Romancelvania - 64
7. Star Trek: Resurgence - 71
8. T-Rex Dinosaur Game
9. The Last Case of Benedict Fox - 58
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow - 61
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong


30. benstylus Current Total: 75


Top 10:
1. 2D Metroid Remake
2. Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver Remake
3. New Civilization Game
4. New Hyrule Warriors Game
5. New Lego Game Based on a Comic Book/Graphic Novel IP
6. New Rayman game
7. New Shantae game
8. New Tetris game
9. New Thunder Lotus Game (Creators of Spiritfarer)
10. WarioWare: Move It! - 75

Alternates:
1. New ARMS Game
2. New EA Sports Racing Game (Not F1 or WRC)



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League Overview:


Welcome to Year 6 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2024. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Armored Core VI and it gets pushed into 2024, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2023. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2024. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. DemonAlcohol
3. PizzaTheHutt
4. EB
5. TalonJedi87
6. benstylus
7. Sailorneorune
8. Bleed_DukeBlue
9. HybridCRoW
10. Incubus421
11. SwiftJAB
12. Roko
13. Thatfootballguy
14. SilverOwl
15. Shane12m
16. Frank
17. SupremeSarna
18. Cevil
19. BloodPuppetX
20. Sefjwm
21. Ryan
22. Bogo
23. Boss
24. Archer
25. Scott
26. Lunar
27. Tonymack21
28. Mattyg00013
29. Bonham2
30. Metsfan718
31. Best1989
32. 3hitcombo
33. Jbjz


Previous Winners:
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/m...
Deadline: January 18, 2023 at 11:59pm



31-Aug-23 1:38pm
#221
Boss
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Silver Good Trader Gold Global Trader (8) 25 year anniversary at Game Trading Zone today!

Shane12m wrote:
Dang this is gonna come down to Spider Man 2 and Horizon. Gonna be a close finish

For me I need Lies of P to come in a 85 or higher and beat those two.
31-Aug-23 1:59pm
#222
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

Boss wrote:
Shane12m wrote:> Dang this is gonna come down to Spider Man 2 and Horizon. Gonna be a close finish> For me I need Lies of P to come in a 85 or higher and beat those two.
I haven’t really followed that game much. Is that a realistic score? How’s it looking?
31-Aug-23 2:18pm
#223
Boss
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Silver Good Trader Gold Global Trader (8) 25 year anniversary at Game Trading Zone today!

Shane12m wrote:
Boss wrote:> Shane12m wrote: |>> Dang this is gonna come down to Spider Man 2 and Horizon. Gonna be a close finish |>> > > > For me I need Lies of P to come in a 85 or higher and beat those two. I haven’t really followed that game much. Is that a realistic score? How’s it looking?

Looks quiet good. It has a chance. And with no new Souls game out for next gen it could do quiet well.
31-Aug-23 2:51pm
#224
DemonAlcohol
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews

Shane12m wrote:
Dang this is gonna come down to Spider Man 2 and Horizon. Gonna be a close finish
Horizon? As in Zero Dawn and Forbidden West? I didn't know there was another one already.

31-Aug-23 3:04pm
#225
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

DemonAlcohol wrote:
Shane12m wrote:> Dang this is gonna come down to Spider Man 2 and Horizon. Gonna be a close finish> Horizon? As in Zero Dawn and Forbidden West? I didn't know there was another one already.
Forza Horizon, but I am a dingus and its Forza Motorsport lol
31-Aug-23 3:07pm
#226
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

Boss wrote:
Shane12m wrote:> Boss wrote: |>> Shane12m wrote:> |>> Dang this is gonna come down to Spider Man 2 and Horizon. Gonna be a close finish> |>> |>> |>> |>> For me I need Lies of P to come in a 85 or higher and beat those two.> > I haven’t really followed that game much. Is that a realistic score? How’s it> looking? Looks quiet good. It has a chance. And with no new Souls game out for next gen it could do quiet well.
Damn man your list is SO good. I am not sure if Lies of P is gonna do so well, but I hope it does. You really killed it with your list.
31-Aug-23 3:35pm
#227
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

I spent way to much time doing math while at work just now, but..

If scores stay the same (Starfield may move a bit, Sea of stars may go up or down one)

If Spider Man 2 scores an 86 (Spider man 1 got an 87)

Forza needs a 92 or higher (would be a tie at 92)

Lies of P needs a 88 or higher (would be a tie at 88)

I love how down to the wire this should be. Why did I not sign up for this before? lol
31-Aug-23 3:50pm
#228
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews

I still got a chance. I just need Wario to do well and then the 9 remaining games that haven't even been hinted at, much less announced, to come out by year end and all be awesome too.

Piece of cake.

31-Aug-23 3:54pm
#229
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

benstylus wrote:
I still got a chance. I just need Wario to do well and then the 9 remaining games that haven't even been hinted at, much less announced, to come out by year end and all be awesome too. Piece of cake.
Love it :)
31-Aug-23 4:07pm
#230
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews

If Lies of P does that well I’ll be shocked. It just looks mediocre to me idk why.
31-Aug-23 4:45pm
#231
Boss
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Silver Good Trader Gold Global Trader (8) 25 year anniversary at Game Trading Zone today!

Shane12m wrote:
Boss wrote:> Shane12m wrote: |>> Boss wrote:> |>> Shane12m wrote: |>> |>> Dang this is gonna come down to Spider Man 2 and Horizon. Gonna be a close> finish |>> |>> > |>> > |>> > |>> For me I need Lies of P to come in a 85 or higher and beat those two. |>> |>> I haven’t really followed that game much. Is that a realistic score? How’s> it |>> looking?> > > Looks quiet good. It has a chance. And with no new Souls game out for next gen it> could do quiet well. Damn man your list is SO good. I am not sure if Lies of P is gonna do so well, but I hope it does. You really killed it with your list.

Thanks. This is what makes it fun, everyone has a chance and an opinion.
31-Aug-23 4:50pm
#232
Boss
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Silver Good Trader Gold Global Trader (8) 25 year anniversary at Game Trading Zone today!

TalonJedi87 wrote:
If Lies of P does that well I’ll be shocked. It just looks mediocre to me idk why.

Guess we will find out in 20 days.
1-Sep-23 3:13pm
#233
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (6 minutes ago)

Sorry for the delay, folks. Scores for Starfield have been added to the OP. It's still at 87 from 52 reviews.

This is really going to come down to the wire! Please bear in mind that the scores in the OP aren't 100% accurate. Some games have gone up/down a point or two since they were added to the OP and Starfield may still go up or down as well.

I do still think @Shane12m has 1st place all but wrapped up because Spidey 2 should definitely score higher than 85. The top 3 is still very wide open, though and will be decided by how well Spidey 2, Lies of P, Forza Motorsport, and Alan Wake II review.

@Shane12m I think we need to dock you points for even having Suicide Squad in your top 10 lol.

1-Sep-23 4:29pm
#234
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

Heavyd814life wrote:
Sorry for the delay, folks. Scores for Starfield have been added to the OP. It's still at 87 from 52 reviews. This is really going to come down to the wire! Please bear in mind that the scores in the OP aren't 100% accurate. Some games have gone up/down a point or two since they were added to the OP and Starfield may still go up or down as well. I do still think @Shane12m has 1st place all but wrapped up because Spidey 2 should definitely score higher than 85. The top 3 is still very wide open, though and will be decided by how well Spidey 2, Lies of P, Forza Motorsport, and Alan Wake II review. @Shane12m I think we need to dock you points for even having Suicide Squad in your top 10 lol.
Haha that’s fair, I don’t know what I was thinking with that game. I honestly did no research on that game and hadn’t followed it and figured rocksteady had been sooo good with its previous titles lol. I was hoping it would get delayed after watching the presentation on the game.
1-Sep-23 5:43pm
#235
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews

Suicide Squad pissed me off. I put it in my list then they say yeah guess what chumps? It’s been delayed almost an entire year. I hope that game gets review bombed hard now.
8-Sep-23 11:59am
#236
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader

Starfield keeps dropping. At an 85 now. This is gonna be close
8-Sep-23 12:40pm
#237
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) This user is on the site NOW (6 minutes ago)

Maybe all hope isn’t lost for me. Just need Forza to crush it!

This one is strange, though. Scores don’t usually fall this much. I could have sworn Starfield was at 90 after the first 20 or so reviews. Scores typically stay steady. They don’t drop 5 points.

8-Sep-23 1:17pm
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Archer
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Heavyd814life wrote:
Maybe all hope isn’t lost for me. Just need Forza to crush it! This one is strange, though. Scores don’t usually fall this much. I could have sworn Starfield was at 90 after the first 20 or so reviews. Scores typically stay steady. They don’t drop 5 points.
PC is higher still. But Xbox is lower. PC is still 87. But xbox is 85 with 3 more reviews. Which means we use that score now, correct?
8-Sep-23 2:40pm
#239
Heavyd814life
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Archer wrote:
Heavyd814life wrote:> Maybe all hope isn’t lost for me. Just need Forza to crush it!> > This one is strange, though. Scores don’t usually fall this much. I could have> sworn Starfield was at 90 after the first 20 or so reviews. Scores typically stay> steady. They don’t drop 5 points. > > PC is higher still. But Xbox is lower. PC is still 87. But xbox is 85 with 3 more reviews. Which means we use that score now, correct?
Ah, maybe it was 90 on PC and I’m getting the scores mixed up. That would make more sense.

And yeah, we go with the platform with the most reviews.

9-Sep-23 1:54am
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sefjwm
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They allegedly held back review codes from more negative outlets so it was expected to drop a bit.
9-Sep-23 6:54am
#241
benstylus
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sefjwm wrote:
They allegedly held back review codes from more negative outlets so it was expected to drop a bit.
This is part of why nobody really trusts reviews anymore. When publishers are free to give or withhold copies so that only their preferred outlets have the game in time to review prior to release, that's a problem. Early reviews equal website views equal ad revenues so the review sites are incentivized to keep the publishers happy even if it is to the detriment of consumers.

Note I'm not saying that every highly rated game that was released this year just has inflated review scores, but why aren't review sites fully independent? The video game industry in the US had $97.67 billion in revenue in 2022 (an all time high) which makes it bigger than the movie industry ($27.3b), the music industry ($15.9b) and the book industry ($28b) combined.

Why aren't game review sites fully independent?


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