Wrestling Discussion
2-Oct-19 7:16pm
#1 Sun
Other thread was closed...so here we are.
Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
#1 Sun
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Other thread was closed...so here we are.
Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
6-Apr-24 10:38am
#221 theJaw
Ospreay has been grinding the past several years harder than Triple H ever did in his life. H just doesn’t want to acknowledge that because it wasn’t in pursuit of a WWE contract.
#221 theJaw
Ospreay has been grinding the past several years harder than Triple H ever did in his life. H just doesn’t want to acknowledge that because it wasn’t in pursuit of a WWE contract.
6-Apr-24 12:42pm
#222 Chad
theJaw wrote:
Was chatting with folks on Discord and the concept of Top 10 favorite tag teams came up. Who would you guys have on your list?
1) Minnesota Wrecking Crew, Arn and Ole
2) Harlem Heat
3) Steiner Brothers
4) Mega Powers
5) Hart Foundation -Bret and Jim
6) Road Warriors
7) Edge & Christian
8) Brain Busters
9) Midnight Express
10) Rock n Roll Express
#222 Chad
theJaw wrote:
Was chatting with folks on Discord and the concept of Top 10 favorite tag teams came up. Who would you guys have on your list?
1) Minnesota Wrecking Crew, Arn and Ole
2) Harlem Heat
3) Steiner Brothers
4) Mega Powers
5) Hart Foundation -Bret and Jim
6) Road Warriors
7) Edge & Christian
8) Brain Busters
9) Midnight Express
10) Rock n Roll Express
6-Apr-24 12:51pm
#223 Y2k
Perhaps that was somewhat accurate sometimes. Japan liked the days long tournaments, but that wasn't the statement. Will chose to work 1 day a week with higher pay over working a few days a week for less pay. To hourly normal people, that seems like a no brainer.
Will has shown up every week since signing. He's had a handful of matches along the way. There is zero beef with what he's done in AEW...but it's maybe 1 match a week. Zero house shows. The very occasional PLE that may or may not add a match sometimes. Diehard wrestling fans know him. Casual fans have heard his name and he's only recently starting to get some North American exposure.
Nobody suggested Will 'couldn't' do a tougher schedule with more matches, appearances, etc....but he absolutely chose not to. As I said before, there's nothing wrong with that. He feels it's better for him right now or for good....but AEW isn't currently capable of providing near the same exposure, so, by default, he won't become a household name. That's simply the trade off. Does he care? Probably to some degree but I'm sure those fat cheques help take the pain away. Still better than moving furniture 6 days a week 8-10 hours a day.
I can't comment on what kind of houses he drew in NJPW but I imagine it wouldn't change much there since the fans are so quiet no matter what happens. Different culture. He's seen the 70,000ish stadiums and said he was completely blown away. He'll see that again to some degree at Wembley later this year. I have to think it messes with a performer's mind when they go from that to wrestling in 1/4 full arenas with areas tarped off and talking to empty seats. That has to be a big adjustment for any former WWE folks that go there.
Is that AEW's fault? Somewhat, for sure. They are still new and still growing and learning.
WWF wasn't pulling those numbers 5 years after starting, either. Compare AEW to WWE/F at that stage and AEW is absolute leagues ahead...though WWE wasn't paying people millions of dollars to sit in catering all the time and occasionally come out. Vince saw this and revolutionized the industry.
Simply, the choice was this:
AEW: Light schedule (much lighter than NJPW), a ton more money out of the gate, lots of time to go home and be with his family, Tony is a nice guy, he has some familiarity with the talent and backstage people, and a few PLE's a year. Apparently the company is doing financially well, but you'd never know it looking at their small audiences.
WWE: Heavier schedule, including house shows, less money out of the gate, less time to go back home, HHH seems decent compared Vince but much more business-minded than Tony, doesn't know too many of the talent or backstage people there, a LOT more PLE's...but he'd be on 'The Grandest Stage of them All' and be in front of massive crowds all the time.
Trade off and decision. Maybe he feels AEW can become a juggernaut and his help would get it there. Maybe it will someday, but that day isn't this weekend. He's not the first guy to make that decision. Many others also chose not to go there. If it doesn't align with what he wants then it doesn't. I don't know if he looks at things like Wrestlemania weekend and thinks, "Man, I should be there" while he's being body slammed onto the steel steps by a Hobbes.
#223 Y2k
Perhaps that was somewhat accurate sometimes. Japan liked the days long tournaments, but that wasn't the statement. Will chose to work 1 day a week with higher pay over working a few days a week for less pay. To hourly normal people, that seems like a no brainer.
Will has shown up every week since signing. He's had a handful of matches along the way. There is zero beef with what he's done in AEW...but it's maybe 1 match a week. Zero house shows. The very occasional PLE that may or may not add a match sometimes. Diehard wrestling fans know him. Casual fans have heard his name and he's only recently starting to get some North American exposure.
Nobody suggested Will 'couldn't' do a tougher schedule with more matches, appearances, etc....but he absolutely chose not to. As I said before, there's nothing wrong with that. He feels it's better for him right now or for good....but AEW isn't currently capable of providing near the same exposure, so, by default, he won't become a household name. That's simply the trade off. Does he care? Probably to some degree but I'm sure those fat cheques help take the pain away. Still better than moving furniture 6 days a week 8-10 hours a day.
I can't comment on what kind of houses he drew in NJPW but I imagine it wouldn't change much there since the fans are so quiet no matter what happens. Different culture. He's seen the 70,000ish stadiums and said he was completely blown away. He'll see that again to some degree at Wembley later this year. I have to think it messes with a performer's mind when they go from that to wrestling in 1/4 full arenas with areas tarped off and talking to empty seats. That has to be a big adjustment for any former WWE folks that go there.
Is that AEW's fault? Somewhat, for sure. They are still new and still growing and learning.
WWF wasn't pulling those numbers 5 years after starting, either. Compare AEW to WWE/F at that stage and AEW is absolute leagues ahead...though WWE wasn't paying people millions of dollars to sit in catering all the time and occasionally come out. Vince saw this and revolutionized the industry.
Simply, the choice was this:
AEW: Light schedule (much lighter than NJPW), a ton more money out of the gate, lots of time to go home and be with his family, Tony is a nice guy, he has some familiarity with the talent and backstage people, and a few PLE's a year. Apparently the company is doing financially well, but you'd never know it looking at their small audiences.
WWE: Heavier schedule, including house shows, less money out of the gate, less time to go back home, HHH seems decent compared Vince but much more business-minded than Tony, doesn't know too many of the talent or backstage people there, a LOT more PLE's...but he'd be on 'The Grandest Stage of them All' and be in front of massive crowds all the time.
Trade off and decision. Maybe he feels AEW can become a juggernaut and his help would get it there. Maybe it will someday, but that day isn't this weekend. He's not the first guy to make that decision. Many others also chose not to go there. If it doesn't align with what he wants then it doesn't. I don't know if he looks at things like Wrestlemania weekend and thinks, "Man, I should be there" while he's being body slammed onto the steel steps by a Hobbes.
6-Apr-24 9:23pm
#225 Y2k
Pretty great so far other than the Mysterio match with the absolute crap finish.
#225 Y2k
Pretty great so far other than the Mysterio match with the absolute crap finish.
6-Apr-24 9:52pm
#226 shadyfozzie
Didn't think they'd drop the belt from Gunther but after that pre match family stuff with zayn it was a given
#226 shadyfozzie
Didn't think they'd drop the belt from Gunther but after that pre match family stuff with zayn it was a given
7-Apr-24 12:58am
#227 Y2k
My thoughts on Night 1:
Rhea vs Becky - 4.5/5 - Both were great.
6 Pack Ladder match - 3.5/5 ...pretty solid as far as multi-person ladder matches go
Rey and Andrade vs Dom and Santos - 1.5/5 ..had potential to be a solid 4 until those idiot football guys wrecked it
Jey vs Jimmy - 2/5. I'd give it a 3 but I hate Lil Wayne. He absolutely sucks
Damage CTRL vs Jade, Bianca, and Naomi - 3.5/5. Decent multi-tag and did its job showcasing Jade.
Gunther vs Zayn - 4.5/5 ...didn't love Gunther dropping the belt to that nimrod but couldn't deny it happening after Gable said he'd owe him a favor. Where does Gunther go from here??
Rock and Reigns vs Cody and Seth - 5/5 - You could see a lot of effort went into this one. Rock was moving good for a 50+ year old. It's also the only match I recall Reigns winning that didn't have outside interference.
Looking forward to tomorrow.
#227 Y2k
My thoughts on Night 1:
Rhea vs Becky - 4.5/5 - Both were great.
6 Pack Ladder match - 3.5/5 ...pretty solid as far as multi-person ladder matches go
Rey and Andrade vs Dom and Santos - 1.5/5 ..had potential to be a solid 4 until those idiot football guys wrecked it
Jey vs Jimmy - 2/5. I'd give it a 3 but I hate Lil Wayne. He absolutely sucks
Damage CTRL vs Jade, Bianca, and Naomi - 3.5/5. Decent multi-tag and did its job showcasing Jade.
Gunther vs Zayn - 4.5/5 ...didn't love Gunther dropping the belt to that nimrod but couldn't deny it happening after Gable said he'd owe him a favor. Where does Gunther go from here??
Rock and Reigns vs Cody and Seth - 5/5 - You could see a lot of effort went into this one. Rock was moving good for a 50+ year old. It's also the only match I recall Reigns winning that didn't have outside interference.
Looking forward to tomorrow.
7-Apr-24 1:41am
#228 PizzaTheHutt
Y2k wrote:
On the other hand, looking at it from, say, a Will Ospreay point of view. AEW clearly offered a LOT more money and super light schedule. This allows him not to have to pack up and move to the US where I'm sure he doesn't want to raise his family. Instead, he can fly back home Wednesday after the show and hang out for 5 days before heading back. He's still fairly early into his career but he's had some issues and his style doesn't lend to longevity...like many of the older gen stars. I understand he's already toned down some things after an incident awhile ago. AEW's light schedule allows him to keep going at his pace and having time to recover more between matches. He chose that life over being a 'WWE Superstar'. He's still Will Ospreay and he still puts on most of the best matches on the planet. THIS is the guy that needs to be pushed because he brings his A game every time he shows up. Everyone will know soon enough that he doesn't 'call it in'.
I will not deny Will Ospreay's talent, because that'd be dumb. But when you have the amount of talent he does, why wouldn't you want to showcase it for the world to see? The fact is you will get more worldwide exposure from even just curtain jerking at WrestleMania than you ever will from headlining a Wrestle Kingdom, which in turn can give you reason to up your asking price even more. If not wanting to relocate to the US was the deal-breaker though, I understand.
#228 PizzaTheHutt
Y2k wrote:
On the other hand, looking at it from, say, a Will Ospreay point of view. AEW clearly offered a LOT more money and super light schedule. This allows him not to have to pack up and move to the US where I'm sure he doesn't want to raise his family. Instead, he can fly back home Wednesday after the show and hang out for 5 days before heading back. He's still fairly early into his career but he's had some issues and his style doesn't lend to longevity...like many of the older gen stars. I understand he's already toned down some things after an incident awhile ago. AEW's light schedule allows him to keep going at his pace and having time to recover more between matches. He chose that life over being a 'WWE Superstar'. He's still Will Ospreay and he still puts on most of the best matches on the planet. THIS is the guy that needs to be pushed because he brings his A game every time he shows up. Everyone will know soon enough that he doesn't 'call it in'.
I will not deny Will Ospreay's talent, because that'd be dumb. But when you have the amount of talent he does, why wouldn't you want to showcase it for the world to see? The fact is you will get more worldwide exposure from even just curtain jerking at WrestleMania than you ever will from headlining a Wrestle Kingdom, which in turn can give you reason to up your asking price even more. If not wanting to relocate to the US was the deal-breaker though, I understand.
7-Apr-24 3:02am
#230 theJaw
Welp, looks like "the Bucks" are going to air the Punk/Perry security footage from All In on Dynamite this week -- according to reputable outlets, it's not a bait and switch. We're going to see what happened. They're apparently going legitimately air the footage.
I still have to believe it's a work, which is a little goofy. But if it's legit... good. Sorta look more forward to that than Mania Night 2 lmao... except of course for Rhodes/Roman 2. That's gonna be edge of your seat crap.
#230 theJaw
Welp, looks like "the Bucks" are going to air the Punk/Perry security footage from All In on Dynamite this week -- according to reputable outlets, it's not a bait and switch. We're going to see what happened. They're apparently going legitimately air the footage.
I still have to believe it's a work, which is a little goofy. But if it's legit... good. Sorta look more forward to that than Mania Night 2 lmao... except of course for Rhodes/Roman 2. That's gonna be edge of your seat crap.
7-Apr-24 8:32am
#231 Y2k
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
Y2k wrote:> On the other hand, looking at it from, say, a Will Ospreay point of view. AEW clearly> offered a LOT more money and super light schedule. This allows him not to have to> pack up and move to the US where I'm sure he doesn't want to raise his family. Instead,> he can fly back home Wednesday after the show and hang out for 5 days before heading> back. He's still fairly early into his career but he's had some issues and his style> doesn't lend to longevity...like many of the older gen stars. I understand he's already> toned down some things after an incident awhile ago. AEW's light schedule allows> him to keep going at his pace and having time to recover more between matches. He> chose that life over being a 'WWE Superstar'. He's still Will Ospreay and he still> puts on most of the best matches on the planet. THIS is the guy that needs to be> pushed because he brings his A game every time he shows up. Everyone will know soon> enough that he doesn't 'call it in'. I will not deny Will Ospreay's talent, because that'd be dumb. But when you have the amount of talent he does, why wouldn't you want to showcase it for the world to see? The fact is you will get more worldwide exposure from even just curtain jerking at WrestleMania than you ever will from headlining a Wrestle Kingdom, which in turn can give you reason to up your asking price even more. If not wanting to relocate to the US was the deal-breaker though, I understand.
I dunno. He didn't go into detail other than saying that WWE's offer 'wasn't even close'.
I totally get what you're saying. It's not like it's two bricklaying companies vying for a guy to mix cement and carry tools. The entertainment industry is a bit different. Maybe he doesn't really want 'the fame'. Throughout a few interviews, he talked enough about his girlfriend and kid. Maybe they don't want to live in the US. Maybe he doesn't want to be on Dark Side of the Ring in 20 years having everyone say what a deadbeat dad he was because he chose his career and fame over his family. I don't know if they went with him to Japan. Based on his schedule there, he wouldn't have had much time to go back home. Maybe they don't want to raise a family in the US. It's not like that country has the strongest reputation for safety in schools. I don't know. People could speculate all day and still not know.
Personally, with the bit he said, I agree that AEW was the best choice for him. It's familiar and he knows a lot of people there. A lot of people on this side of the pond don't know who he is. They're finding out. I'd love to see him go up against guys like Rollins, Rhodes, etc, too....but it's not like AEW is full of scrubs. In-ring talent wise, I'd still say AEW has more top tier performers than WWE does that would fit his style a bit better.
#231 Y2k
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
Y2k wrote:> On the other hand, looking at it from, say, a Will Ospreay point of view. AEW clearly> offered a LOT more money and super light schedule. This allows him not to have to> pack up and move to the US where I'm sure he doesn't want to raise his family. Instead,> he can fly back home Wednesday after the show and hang out for 5 days before heading> back. He's still fairly early into his career but he's had some issues and his style> doesn't lend to longevity...like many of the older gen stars. I understand he's already> toned down some things after an incident awhile ago. AEW's light schedule allows> him to keep going at his pace and having time to recover more between matches. He> chose that life over being a 'WWE Superstar'. He's still Will Ospreay and he still> puts on most of the best matches on the planet. THIS is the guy that needs to be> pushed because he brings his A game every time he shows up. Everyone will know soon> enough that he doesn't 'call it in'. I will not deny Will Ospreay's talent, because that'd be dumb. But when you have the amount of talent he does, why wouldn't you want to showcase it for the world to see? The fact is you will get more worldwide exposure from even just curtain jerking at WrestleMania than you ever will from headlining a Wrestle Kingdom, which in turn can give you reason to up your asking price even more. If not wanting to relocate to the US was the deal-breaker though, I understand.
I dunno. He didn't go into detail other than saying that WWE's offer 'wasn't even close'.
I totally get what you're saying. It's not like it's two bricklaying companies vying for a guy to mix cement and carry tools. The entertainment industry is a bit different. Maybe he doesn't really want 'the fame'. Throughout a few interviews, he talked enough about his girlfriend and kid. Maybe they don't want to live in the US. Maybe he doesn't want to be on Dark Side of the Ring in 20 years having everyone say what a deadbeat dad he was because he chose his career and fame over his family. I don't know if they went with him to Japan. Based on his schedule there, he wouldn't have had much time to go back home. Maybe they don't want to raise a family in the US. It's not like that country has the strongest reputation for safety in schools. I don't know. People could speculate all day and still not know.
Personally, with the bit he said, I agree that AEW was the best choice for him. It's familiar and he knows a lot of people there. A lot of people on this side of the pond don't know who he is. They're finding out. I'd love to see him go up against guys like Rollins, Rhodes, etc, too....but it's not like AEW is full of scrubs. In-ring talent wise, I'd still say AEW has more top tier performers than WWE does that would fit his style a bit better.
7-Apr-24 8:51am
#232 Y2k
theJaw wrote:
Welp, looks like "the Bucks" are going to air the Punk/Perry security footage from All In on Dynamite this week -- according to reputable outlets, it's not a bait and switch. We're going to see what happened. They're apparently going legitimately air the footage. I still have to believe it's a work, which is a little goofy. But if it's legit... good. Sorta look more forward to that than Mania Night 2 lmao... except of course for Rhodes/Roman 2. That's gonna be edge of your seat crap.
I just saw something about that this morning. I'm not sure that Meltzer is a reputable outlet. All I see that the EVPs posted was 'Roll. The. Tape." I hope it's legit footage. There are always 3 sides to every story. His side, their side, and what really happened. I'm sure it'll get a lot of viewers Wednesday...at least until that airs and people will talk about it.
What's the fallout if it's legit?
It shows Punk lied and was wrong? Egg on his face, WWE marks won't care and will forget about it before Smackdown airs. Punk detractors will be, "See, I told you he's a cancer". WWE won't care. Punk won't care. He'll simply say it didn't show what lead to that. They have bigger issues with Vince and the rest of his former execs.
If it's inconclusive? Then why waste TV time on a show? Nobody on the other side said a word about it during TV. It was done through podcasts and crap like that.
.,..and if it's a parody or a work?
Look out. Years ago, after the Montreal screw job, WWE did a parody of Bret Hart returning and had a midget come in to be humiliated. A LOT of people boycotted WWE between the two things and it took a real long time to get that back. Casual AEW fans won't be impressed or entertained. It may raise viewership for a few minutes and murder it going forward.
I feel it would make more business sense to have it posted onto social media platforms. Here's the footage. Make up your mind about what the facts are. We have a show to do. Make sure to tune into Rampage this Friday where you can see some typically dull matches on our C show that you already know the results of since it happened 2 days prior and a recap of Mercedes wiggling to her amazing theme song.
I confess, a part of me enjoys this part of the business - people taking shots at the competition. Most of both rosters and management are guilty of it. It's a fun distraction between shows.
#232 Y2k
theJaw wrote:
Welp, looks like "the Bucks" are going to air the Punk/Perry security footage from All In on Dynamite this week -- according to reputable outlets, it's not a bait and switch. We're going to see what happened. They're apparently going legitimately air the footage. I still have to believe it's a work, which is a little goofy. But if it's legit... good. Sorta look more forward to that than Mania Night 2 lmao... except of course for Rhodes/Roman 2. That's gonna be edge of your seat crap.
I just saw something about that this morning. I'm not sure that Meltzer is a reputable outlet. All I see that the EVPs posted was 'Roll. The. Tape." I hope it's legit footage. There are always 3 sides to every story. His side, their side, and what really happened. I'm sure it'll get a lot of viewers Wednesday...at least until that airs and people will talk about it.
What's the fallout if it's legit?
It shows Punk lied and was wrong? Egg on his face, WWE marks won't care and will forget about it before Smackdown airs. Punk detractors will be, "See, I told you he's a cancer". WWE won't care. Punk won't care. He'll simply say it didn't show what lead to that. They have bigger issues with Vince and the rest of his former execs.
If it's inconclusive? Then why waste TV time on a show? Nobody on the other side said a word about it during TV. It was done through podcasts and crap like that.
.,..and if it's a parody or a work?
Look out. Years ago, after the Montreal screw job, WWE did a parody of Bret Hart returning and had a midget come in to be humiliated. A LOT of people boycotted WWE between the two things and it took a real long time to get that back. Casual AEW fans won't be impressed or entertained. It may raise viewership for a few minutes and murder it going forward.
I feel it would make more business sense to have it posted onto social media platforms. Here's the footage. Make up your mind about what the facts are. We have a show to do. Make sure to tune into Rampage this Friday where you can see some typically dull matches on our C show that you already know the results of since it happened 2 days prior and a recap of Mercedes wiggling to her amazing theme song.
I confess, a part of me enjoys this part of the business - people taking shots at the competition. Most of both rosters and management are guilty of it. It's a fun distraction between shows.
7-Apr-24 12:11pm
#233 lazarro
Gut feeling reigns keeps the damn belt why else make the title matched booked for bloodline rules.
#233 lazarro
Gut feeling reigns keeps the damn belt why else make the title matched booked for bloodline rules.
7-Apr-24 12:23pm
#234 theJaw
lazarro wrote:
Gut feeling reigns keeps the damn belt why else make the title matched booked for bloodline rules.
It's gonna end with an "Avengers assemble" moment where all the folks who the Bloodline wronged over the past few years come out to back up Cody -- Jey, KO, Sami, Seth, Knight, Rey, maybe even Drew in a sorta "for the greater good" moment.
Would rather Cody just "finish the story" on his own but it could make for a satisfying moment (assuming that is what actually happens obv).
#234 theJaw
lazarro wrote:
Gut feeling reigns keeps the damn belt why else make the title matched booked for bloodline rules.
It's gonna end with an "Avengers assemble" moment where all the folks who the Bloodline wronged over the past few years come out to back up Cody -- Jey, KO, Sami, Seth, Knight, Rey, maybe even Drew in a sorta "for the greater good" moment.
Would rather Cody just "finish the story" on his own but it could make for a satisfying moment (assuming that is what actually happens obv).
7-Apr-24 1:19pm
#235 Y2k
The Young Bucks are going to clobber Cody in the back of the head with Mercedes Mone then Will Ospreay is going to pound Reigns with an Oscutter while Tony Khan suplexes HHH across the stadium and gives him the stinkface.
#235 Y2k
The Young Bucks are going to clobber Cody in the back of the head with Mercedes Mone then Will Ospreay is going to pound Reigns with an Oscutter while Tony Khan suplexes HHH across the stadium and gives him the stinkface.
7-Apr-24 1:23pm
#236 theJaw
lmao would watch that
Bucks and Cody are still good friends tbh. That's the main reason I find the internet tribalism so silly. Just wait -- Cody wins tonight, we're gonna see the "too sweet" gesture, maybe even followed by the "smoking gun" gesture. The good ol' Cody is Bullet Club through and through lol
#236 theJaw
lmao would watch that
Bucks and Cody are still good friends tbh. That's the main reason I find the internet tribalism so silly. Just wait -- Cody wins tonight, we're gonna see the "too sweet" gesture, maybe even followed by the "smoking gun" gesture. The good ol' Cody is Bullet Club through and through lol
7-Apr-24 2:01pm
#237 Y2k
Meh. It seems to be a thing for a lot of people that they can only like one thing, one team, one company, one political party, blah blah blah.
I hate everything and everyone so it's easier and don't get lumped in with as many people.
In unrelated news, if Tony wants to arrange to beat someone with Mercedes, I'm calling dibs.
#237 Y2k
Meh. It seems to be a thing for a lot of people that they can only like one thing, one team, one company, one political party, blah blah blah.
I hate everything and everyone so it's easier and don't get lumped in with as many people.
In unrelated news, if Tony wants to arrange to beat someone with Mercedes, I'm calling dibs.
7-Apr-24 5:35pm
#239 PizzaTheHutt
Y2k wrote:
I confess, a part of me enjoys this part of the business - people taking shots at the competition. Most of both rosters and management are guilty of it. It's a fun distraction between shows.
I have mixed feelings on it. I don't hate it, but it has to make sense. Paul Heyman knew what he was doing when trying to rally up the core ECW fanbase to hate WWF/WCW (especially WCW). Not one of those fans knew Paul was accepting a little bit of financial support from Vince, or else Paul would've looked like a moron to those same fans.
Another example (but in the opposite way), a random scrub on Twitter was mocking WWE's Performance Center for not producing any stars, so MJF chimes in with a list of names that came from the PC with no experience before signing with WWE and are definitely stars now. That one I liked because the fan was hating for the sake of hating and had clearly done zero research before he decided to Tweet that.
Of course DX invasion on Nitro, f'n classic and will never be topped.
But there are times where it falls flat too, like those "Billionaire Ted" skits with "Nacho Man and The Huckster", which was just Vince being butt-hurt that his stars had moved on. I did think the skits were funny, but that was mostly because by the time they aired I was well beyond the "Hulkamania" phase and couldn't stand the guy anymore. I had no opinion on Ted Turner personally though. In retrospect if they wanted to attack Savage, leave his age out of it and talk about what a paranoid freak he is about whoever he's dating. In either case, I think both of them were 43-ish at the time, which is standard age of most people in the main event scene of either company these days. It means nothing, because you can either still go at 40 or you can't. R-Truth is 52 and moves around that ring just as easily as people 20 years younger than him. He can pop a crowd easier than most of them too.
#239 PizzaTheHutt
Y2k wrote:
I confess, a part of me enjoys this part of the business - people taking shots at the competition. Most of both rosters and management are guilty of it. It's a fun distraction between shows.
I have mixed feelings on it. I don't hate it, but it has to make sense. Paul Heyman knew what he was doing when trying to rally up the core ECW fanbase to hate WWF/WCW (especially WCW). Not one of those fans knew Paul was accepting a little bit of financial support from Vince, or else Paul would've looked like a moron to those same fans.
Another example (but in the opposite way), a random scrub on Twitter was mocking WWE's Performance Center for not producing any stars, so MJF chimes in with a list of names that came from the PC with no experience before signing with WWE and are definitely stars now. That one I liked because the fan was hating for the sake of hating and had clearly done zero research before he decided to Tweet that.
Of course DX invasion on Nitro, f'n classic and will never be topped.
But there are times where it falls flat too, like those "Billionaire Ted" skits with "Nacho Man and The Huckster", which was just Vince being butt-hurt that his stars had moved on. I did think the skits were funny, but that was mostly because by the time they aired I was well beyond the "Hulkamania" phase and couldn't stand the guy anymore. I had no opinion on Ted Turner personally though. In retrospect if they wanted to attack Savage, leave his age out of it and talk about what a paranoid freak he is about whoever he's dating. In either case, I think both of them were 43-ish at the time, which is standard age of most people in the main event scene of either company these days. It means nothing, because you can either still go at 40 or you can't. R-Truth is 52 and moves around that ring just as easily as people 20 years younger than him. He can pop a crowd easier than most of them too.
7-Apr-24 7:27pm
#241 shadyfozzie
Would love if preist cashes in on Rhodes/reigns match.. then it'd judgment day vs. Bloodline for a while
#241 shadyfozzie
Would love if preist cashes in on Rhodes/reigns match.. then it'd judgment day vs. Bloodline for a while
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