Username: ChiefoMeniefo2000
Status: active
Created: August 5, 2003 at 1:00pm (EDT)
The original email I received from him was as follows -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:03 PM
> To: jhough@cdhks.com
> Subject: GameTZ
>
>
> Greetings,
> Would you take Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix for UT2003? Thnx.
>
> Please let me know soon.
Now, I have to clarify before I continue that I was in the process at the exact time I received this email of trying to find someone to trade Unreal Championship 2003 for the XBOX for SOF II for the XBOX, I misread this trade for that, instead of the PC games.
Here's my response -
>From: "Hough, John" <jhough@CDHKS.com>
>To: 'Pain Is Gain' <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: GameTZ
>Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:34:11 -0700
>
>Yeah I'll do that. Here's my address,
>
>John Hough
>727 Sansome St.
>San Francisco, CA. 94111
>
>How should we proceed?
His response to that -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:53 PM
> To: jhough@CDHKS.com
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Well,
> I'll set up the trade.
> I'll send tomorrow or Saturday, please do the same.
>
> Peter Roussev
> 543 N 8th St.
> Selinsgrove, PA 17870
>
> Thanks.
Here's my next email to him -
>From: "Hough, John" <jhough@CDHKS.com>
>To: 'Pain Is Gain' <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: GameTZ
>Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:23:56 -0700
>
>Hi Peter,
>
>I sent the game off today, just wondering if you were still going to
>setup the trade on GameTZ. I couldn't find your username to set it up.
>Thanks.
As of the time I sent this on Saturday, I had already shipped Unreal Championship for the Xbox (by mistake as noted above), and he had not setup the trade as he said he would on Thursday the 10th. Here's his next response, which is where I started to feel uneasy about this trade -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: jhough@CDHKS.com
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Sure,
> I will set it up. Would it be Ok if I did Monday because I'm
> really busy. In fact I have to go right now. Thanks. -Pete
Fine, Monday is not a problem, as long as it gets done. What urked me about this email was the "really busy" and "I have to go right now" parts... if you've got a few minutes to send an email you can surely setup a trade that would take about the same amount of time.
My next response-
>From: "Hough, John" <jhough@CDHKS.com>
>To: 'Pain Is Gain' <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: GameTZ
>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:30:13 -0700
>
>Did you get the game yet? I setup the trade on GameTZ. I also just
>realized that I sent you Unreal CHAMPIONSHIP for the Xbox, not
>realizing you wanted UT for the PC. I still haven't received anything
>from you. I'll wait to hear from you.
It's now the following wed, 2 days after he said he'd set up the trade, he still hadn't so I did some more searching on GameTZ and found his profile and set it up. Also realizing at this point that I sent him the wrong game and asked him what he wanted to do next. 5 days after we were supposed to ship, I still haven't received SOF 2. Here's his response -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:22 AM
> To: jhough@CDHKS.com
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Hey,
> I just got the game today ... LOL ... You did send me UC
> instead of UT2003.
> I will send your game back, meanwhile can you send the PC
> version. My game isn't there yet? Hmm, I did send Media Mail.
> Let me find the DC #
> and give it to you. I will send out UC to you tomorrow.
> Thanks.
> -Pete
As of now, I still haven't received the Xbox game back, nor SOF2. I have not sent UT to him, and won't at this point unless I get my game back and SOF2. Here's my next response -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hough, John
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:56 AM
> To: 'Pain Is Gain'
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Hey did you send the game back to me yet? I still haven't
> gotten the SOF package either.
Getting annoyed at this point, still haven't received anything and communication is now in the poor stage. Here's his response -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: jhough@CDHKS.com
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> I sent the game July 20. I thought I wrote you a message ...
> I'm really busy
> right now?
> You don't have SOF yet? I'll check with the post office.
> Did you send out UT2003?
> Thanks.
> -Pete
Again the "really busy now"... if he's 'so busy' then he shouldn't be doing trades. My response -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hough, John
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:29 AM
> To: 'Pain Is Gain'
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Yah I did see the message, I don't understand how you can be
> "too busy" to take 5 minutes and ship a game.
>
> I still have not received SOF or my xbox game back. I will
> not ship UT2k3 out until I get my xbox game back and
> confirmation of shipment of SOF.
>
> FYI, I just got an email from Gametz that you're trying to
> delete your account, and some other guy posted the bad trader
> report about you.
>
> Send me back my xbox game and let's just forget this.
To this point I have not received either of the games, nor have I received any further communication from Pete.
----- Update on 9/11. -----
Today I received a package from Mr. Roussev. It was return addressed (and postmarked from as well) the following address -
P. Roussev
University Of The Virgin Islands
St. Croix Campus: RRZ
Box 10,000 Kingshill, St. Croix
VI 00850
In the package was "Age Of Mythology", which was not part of our trade. No note, or anything else in the package.
Pete - if you're reading this, I'll be more than happy to return this to you when you send me back my Xbox game I accidently sent to you and you said you would return to me. The trade we agreed upon originally is dead, I will not honor it. If I happen to receive SOF from you as agreed upon originally I will return it to you with Delivery Confirmation, Insurance and Signature Required USPS delivery. If I don't receive anything from you by October 11th, I'll take that as you screwing me and will keep this game as compensation. If I receive anything after that point, too bad for you.
Reported By: symfnyx
Status: active
Created: August 5, 2003 at 1:00pm (EDT)
The original email I received from him was as follows -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:03 PM
> To: jhough@cdhks.com
> Subject: GameTZ
>
>
> Greetings,
> Would you take Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix for UT2003? Thnx.
>
> Please let me know soon.
Now, I have to clarify before I continue that I was in the process at the exact time I received this email of trying to find someone to trade Unreal Championship 2003 for the XBOX for SOF II for the XBOX, I misread this trade for that, instead of the PC games.
Here's my response -
>From: "Hough, John" <jhough@CDHKS.com>
>To: 'Pain Is Gain' <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: GameTZ
>Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:34:11 -0700
>
>Yeah I'll do that. Here's my address,
>
>John Hough
>727 Sansome St.
>San Francisco, CA. 94111
>
>How should we proceed?
His response to that -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:53 PM
> To: jhough@CDHKS.com
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Well,
> I'll set up the trade.
> I'll send tomorrow or Saturday, please do the same.
>
> Peter Roussev
> 543 N 8th St.
> Selinsgrove, PA 17870
>
> Thanks.
Here's my next email to him -
>From: "Hough, John" <jhough@CDHKS.com>
>To: 'Pain Is Gain' <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: GameTZ
>Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:23:56 -0700
>
>Hi Peter,
>
>I sent the game off today, just wondering if you were still going to
>setup the trade on GameTZ. I couldn't find your username to set it up.
>Thanks.
As of the time I sent this on Saturday, I had already shipped Unreal Championship for the Xbox (by mistake as noted above), and he had not setup the trade as he said he would on Thursday the 10th. Here's his next response, which is where I started to feel uneasy about this trade -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: jhough@CDHKS.com
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Sure,
> I will set it up. Would it be Ok if I did Monday because I'm
> really busy. In fact I have to go right now. Thanks. -Pete
Fine, Monday is not a problem, as long as it gets done. What urked me about this email was the "really busy" and "I have to go right now" parts... if you've got a few minutes to send an email you can surely setup a trade that would take about the same amount of time.
My next response-
>From: "Hough, John" <jhough@CDHKS.com>
>To: 'Pain Is Gain' <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: GameTZ
>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:30:13 -0700
>
>Did you get the game yet? I setup the trade on GameTZ. I also just
>realized that I sent you Unreal CHAMPIONSHIP for the Xbox, not
>realizing you wanted UT for the PC. I still haven't received anything
>from you. I'll wait to hear from you.
It's now the following wed, 2 days after he said he'd set up the trade, he still hadn't so I did some more searching on GameTZ and found his profile and set it up. Also realizing at this point that I sent him the wrong game and asked him what he wanted to do next. 5 days after we were supposed to ship, I still haven't received SOF 2. Here's his response -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:22 AM
> To: jhough@CDHKS.com
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Hey,
> I just got the game today ... LOL ... You did send me UC
> instead of UT2003.
> I will send your game back, meanwhile can you send the PC
> version. My game isn't there yet? Hmm, I did send Media Mail.
> Let me find the DC #
> and give it to you. I will send out UC to you tomorrow.
> Thanks.
> -Pete
As of now, I still haven't received the Xbox game back, nor SOF2. I have not sent UT to him, and won't at this point unless I get my game back and SOF2. Here's my next response -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hough, John
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:56 AM
> To: 'Pain Is Gain'
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Hey did you send the game back to me yet? I still haven't
> gotten the SOF package either.
Getting annoyed at this point, still haven't received anything and communication is now in the poor stage. Here's his response -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pain Is Gain [mailto:speedofpain88@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: jhough@CDHKS.com
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> I sent the game July 20. I thought I wrote you a message ...
> I'm really busy
> right now?
> You don't have SOF yet? I'll check with the post office.
> Did you send out UT2003?
> Thanks.
> -Pete
Again the "really busy now"... if he's 'so busy' then he shouldn't be doing trades. My response -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hough, John
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:29 AM
> To: 'Pain Is Gain'
> Subject: RE: GameTZ
>
>
> Yah I did see the message, I don't understand how you can be
> "too busy" to take 5 minutes and ship a game.
>
> I still have not received SOF or my xbox game back. I will
> not ship UT2k3 out until I get my xbox game back and
> confirmation of shipment of SOF.
>
> FYI, I just got an email from Gametz that you're trying to
> delete your account, and some other guy posted the bad trader
> report about you.
>
> Send me back my xbox game and let's just forget this.
To this point I have not received either of the games, nor have I received any further communication from Pete.
----- Update on 9/11. -----
Today I received a package from Mr. Roussev. It was return addressed (and postmarked from as well) the following address -
P. Roussev
University Of The Virgin Islands
St. Croix Campus: RRZ
Box 10,000 Kingshill, St. Croix
VI 00850
In the package was "Age Of Mythology", which was not part of our trade. No note, or anything else in the package.
Pete - if you're reading this, I'll be more than happy to return this to you when you send me back my Xbox game I accidently sent to you and you said you would return to me. The trade we agreed upon originally is dead, I will not honor it. If I happen to receive SOF from you as agreed upon originally I will return it to you with Delivery Confirmation, Insurance and Signature Required USPS delivery. If I don't receive anything from you by October 11th, I'll take that as you screwing me and will keep this game as compensation. If I receive anything after that point, too bad for you.
Reported By: symfnyx
Username: ChiefoMeniefo2000
Status: active
Created: August 5, 2003 at 12:36pm (EDT)
He sent me an e-mail wanting to trade for my copy of SimCity4(PC) and in exchange he would send me Shinobi(PS2) & Contra(PS2). Here is the email I received:
>>From: Pain Is Gain <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <setzer@direcway.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:32 PM
>>Subject: GameTZ
>>Greetings,
>>Would you give me SimCity 4 (complete) for Contra and Shinobi
>>(both complete for PS2).
>>Thanks.
>>LMK.
I agreed to do this trade and we also agreed that I would send first since he had more trades completed than I did. So, I boxed up SimCity4 and sent it to him via UPS. I then emailed him with the tracking number: 1Z3326YY0396996938. UPS delivered the package to him on July 22nd. The very next day I get an email from him saying that he deleted the trade. So, I wrote back:
>>From: "Paul Ellis" <paul@aglassenterprise.com>
>>To: "Pain Is Gain" <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: GameTZ
>>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:51:17 -0700
>>
>>Why did you delete the trade??? I sent you the game. I also sent you an
>>e-mail with the tracking number. Have you not received it?? Please let
>>me know.
>>
>>Paul
He responded with this:
>>From: Pain Is Gain <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <paul@aglassenterprise.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:40 AM
>>Subject: Re: GameTZ
>>Oh I thought you didn;t want to do the trade anymore because I never got
>>any response from you (I never got that e-mail man). Sorry. We'll set it back up.
So, I figured something was not right here. He thought I didn't want to do the trade yet he already had the game in his possesion. So, I immediately set the trade back up. I then wrote him, asking if he had received the game. I told him according to UPS they delivered the package to him, to his front door on Tues, July 22nd. I get this response back from him almost a week later:
>>From: "Pain Is Gain" <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <paul@aglassenterprise.com>
>>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:59 PM
>>Subject: Re: GameTZ
>>Yes I have it in my pocession now. Like I said I was out and it was at
>>the door when I came back. Sorry I haven't been able to get back to you, but
>>I have been really busy. I will send Wednesday.
>>Thanks.
>> -Pete
Ok, so he was busy..understandable. I then receive two emails from GameTZ. One stating that he was trying to delete his account but noticed that there was a pending trade and they wanted to know, from me, what the status was. The other was a notice that he had been reported as a 'Bad Trader' from another user. I replied to the GameTZ moderator explaining to him/her the situation and got a response saying I should file a BTR on him. Before I did I thought I would send one more email asking if he would send my games and also send them with a tracking number. I received a response back saying he would send the games to me on Wednesday, July 30th. On the morning of July 30th I received this email from Peter:
>>From: Pain Is Gain <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <paul@aglassenterprise.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:55 AM
>>Subject: Re: GameTZ
>> Like I said the games would be shipped out today. I'm a man of my word.
>> Tracking # is 0304 7990 0005 8786 2301. You should have them by Monday.
>> Enjoy.
>> -Pete
I wrote him and told him thanks for sending the games and also for giving me a tracking number. I told him once I received them I would complete the trade. So, I thought maybe he was busy and in my email I told him I understood his situation being busy and all and that I get pretty busy too. In fact, it took me a week from the time we set the trade up before I actually shipped his game to him because I was busy. However I did email him on the day I shipped the package telling him I was sorry for the delay and gave him the tracking number.
Well, I received his package on Monday, August 4th and inside the package was not the games we agreed on....in fact it wasn't even a game at all....it was a book. So, this is why I'm filing a BTR on Pete Roussev. Please avoid doing any transactions with this user or you'll just end up getting screwed.
Reported By: Setzer
Status: active
Created: August 5, 2003 at 12:36pm (EDT)
He sent me an e-mail wanting to trade for my copy of SimCity4(PC) and in exchange he would send me Shinobi(PS2) & Contra(PS2). Here is the email I received:
>>From: Pain Is Gain <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <setzer@direcway.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:32 PM
>>Subject: GameTZ
>>Greetings,
>>Would you give me SimCity 4 (complete) for Contra and Shinobi
>>(both complete for PS2).
>>Thanks.
>>LMK.
I agreed to do this trade and we also agreed that I would send first since he had more trades completed than I did. So, I boxed up SimCity4 and sent it to him via UPS. I then emailed him with the tracking number: 1Z3326YY0396996938. UPS delivered the package to him on July 22nd. The very next day I get an email from him saying that he deleted the trade. So, I wrote back:
>>From: "Paul Ellis" <paul@aglassenterprise.com>
>>To: "Pain Is Gain" <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: GameTZ
>>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:51:17 -0700
>>
>>Why did you delete the trade??? I sent you the game. I also sent you an
>>e-mail with the tracking number. Have you not received it?? Please let
>>me know.
>>
>>Paul
He responded with this:
>>From: Pain Is Gain <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <paul@aglassenterprise.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:40 AM
>>Subject: Re: GameTZ
>>Oh I thought you didn;t want to do the trade anymore because I never got
>>any response from you (I never got that e-mail man). Sorry. We'll set it back up.
So, I figured something was not right here. He thought I didn't want to do the trade yet he already had the game in his possesion. So, I immediately set the trade back up. I then wrote him, asking if he had received the game. I told him according to UPS they delivered the package to him, to his front door on Tues, July 22nd. I get this response back from him almost a week later:
>>From: "Pain Is Gain" <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <paul@aglassenterprise.com>
>>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:59 PM
>>Subject: Re: GameTZ
>>Yes I have it in my pocession now. Like I said I was out and it was at
>>the door when I came back. Sorry I haven't been able to get back to you, but
>>I have been really busy. I will send Wednesday.
>>Thanks.
>> -Pete
Ok, so he was busy..understandable. I then receive two emails from GameTZ. One stating that he was trying to delete his account but noticed that there was a pending trade and they wanted to know, from me, what the status was. The other was a notice that he had been reported as a 'Bad Trader' from another user. I replied to the GameTZ moderator explaining to him/her the situation and got a response saying I should file a BTR on him. Before I did I thought I would send one more email asking if he would send my games and also send them with a tracking number. I received a response back saying he would send the games to me on Wednesday, July 30th. On the morning of July 30th I received this email from Peter:
>>From: Pain Is Gain <speedofpain88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <paul@aglassenterprise.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:55 AM
>>Subject: Re: GameTZ
>> Like I said the games would be shipped out today. I'm a man of my word.
>> Tracking # is 0304 7990 0005 8786 2301. You should have them by Monday.
>> Enjoy.
>> -Pete
I wrote him and told him thanks for sending the games and also for giving me a tracking number. I told him once I received them I would complete the trade. So, I thought maybe he was busy and in my email I told him I understood his situation being busy and all and that I get pretty busy too. In fact, it took me a week from the time we set the trade up before I actually shipped his game to him because I was busy. However I did email him on the day I shipped the package telling him I was sorry for the delay and gave him the tracking number.
Well, I received his package on Monday, August 4th and inside the package was not the games we agreed on....in fact it wasn't even a game at all....it was a book. So, this is why I'm filing a BTR on Pete Roussev. Please avoid doing any transactions with this user or you'll just end up getting screwed.
Reported By: Setzer