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9-Jul-13 1:24am
#1
Iced
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Doesn't look like there's a discussion thread for PS4, unless I'm blind. Let's discuss PS4, then, in this thread.

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5-Mar-21 3:24pm
#2
TalonJedi87
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I think if it's like a single player game that doesn't require a lot of downloads or updates from PSN, it installs quicker. Single player only games like Ratchet and Clank or say even remasters like Destroy All Humans! usually have a day 1 patch, which isn't too large with smaller updates down the line. Games like GTA V are up to like, psh, 1.119 builds now that require immense downloads, which could delay installation from happening quicker, depending on your ISP download speeds.
5-Mar-21 3:35pm
#3
sa330206
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Thanks for the input. I was under the impression that the PS4 worked like XB1 where the full game is copied/ran from the hard drive, not the disc. Something about Blu Rays being too slow to read/play from. I know older systems like PS1/2/XB360 played the games from the actual discs. I could be wrong on that though. A recent example is a game I put in that was 15GB. It installed within 30 seconds and shows the full 15GB space used on my HDD. 30 seconds just seemed very fast to copy 15GB from the disc to the HDD.
5-Mar-21 3:43pm
#4
Anxiouz
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PS4 installs for me have always been slow. My understanding was that it copies files from the disc, then might unzip them, then copies them to where they need to be. I think some games don't zip so those copy faster.

But most games do run off the HDD not the disc itself (typically). The disc may just be used to get to the initial load screen.
5-Mar-21 4:05pm
#5
Gypsy
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@sa330206 PS1/2 play entirely from discs. Neither has internal storage. You can add a hard drive to the PS2, that's mostly how I play PS2 currently despite having a decent PS2 collection. But that's not the intended use of the network adapter.

Most PS4 installs are slow for me, but especially big AAA type games.
5-Mar-21 4:14pm
#6
TalonJedi87
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I always found installs to be slower on the Xbox for some reason, but the Series X has stepped it up a bit I've notice and they've gotten a lot faster than the XB1 days.
5-Mar-21 4:27pm
#7
Archer
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PS4 tricks you with installs for a lot of games. It installs very quickly an initial batch file for most games (this seemed to stop towards the end of the systems cycle). And so the install looks like it takes 10 seconds on some games. But it is just that installer program. Which then will slowly install the disc in the back ground. But you can boot the game up right away playing it from the disc while it installs in the background. But if you don't, and you go look at the info by hitting start on the icon and then info. You will see it installing there. The disk usage will be slowly filling up to match the space it reserved with the batch installer that shows in the disk usage area. This is why it was hit or miss from game to game if it took 30+ minutes to install the full game or it appeared to be done in 10 seconds.

Which if you think about is much nicer than how the xbox one handled it, where it downloaded the full fudging game from their server. I used to get so mad when I had terrible internet trying to install a one game. If I didn't remember to disconnect the internet before hand on it so actually used the disc. It was so frustrating waiting 2+ hours for it to download the full game instead of using the disc.

5-Mar-21 4:34pm
#8
TalonJedi87
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Ohhhh I see. That's interesting. I never knew it stealthily installed games like that on PS4 incognito like even after it said installed and ready to play. Maybe that's why on Series X now it says "Ready to Start" like half way thru on some installs now while it installs and downloads the rest of the data in the background.
5-Mar-21 5:10pm
#9
Sun
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Does anyone recommend A Way Out? It's on sale and I've been eyeing it, but I know it's strictly local or online co-op. At least you only need one copy for online co-op.
5-Mar-21 5:18pm
#10
PizzaTheHutt
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Sun wrote:
Does anyone recommend A Way Out? It's on sale and I've been eyeing it, but I know it's strictly local or online co-op. At least you only need one copy for online co-op.
I enjoyed it. It's not very long, I think my friend and I beat it in one sitting, around 6 hours or so. If I remember correctly there is no option to search for randoms to play with, so make sure you have someone to join you.
Those devs have another co-op game called It Takes Two that is releasing later this month and again only requires one person to own the game.
5-Mar-21 5:42pm
#11
TalonJedi87
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A Way Out is cool with a buddy. Looking forward to It Takes Two. Josef Fares is a kooky nut but he makes pretty innovative coop games. Brothers was amazing.
5-Mar-21 9:07pm
#12
TerrHeel
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My wife and I played A Way Out and enjoyed it. Also played Brothers, which was good as well. Definitely a cool idea. Co-op games are great.
6-Mar-21 2:35am
#13
Bleed_DukeBlue
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A Way Out is awesome. I actually played it with someone on here. It has one part in particular that is especially tense and adrenaline-inducing. (I'm being deliberately vague about what/when so as not to give it away, but you'll know.)

Sun wrote:
Does anyone recommend A Way Out? It's on sale and I've been eyeing it, but I know it's strictly local or online co-op. At least you only need one copy for online co-op.
8-Mar-21 3:19pm
#14
Gypsy
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Am I missing something or can you not skip cut scenes in Ghost of Tsushima? Immediately dropping this crap if that is the case. Really odd decision to boot given all the accessibility options they added.
8-Mar-21 3:21pm
#15
Kommie
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Gypsy wrote:
Am I missing something or can you not skip cut scenes in Ghost of Tsushima? Immediately dropping this crap if that is the case. Really odd decision to boot given all the accessibility options they added.
Games like this are pretty annoying, especially Borderlands on re-plays

8-Mar-21 3:30pm
#16
Gypsy
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Yeah like I don't mind the story but these scenes start to drag. It's also just really arrogant to assume everyone wants to sit through your story. The gameplay is decent, though not very challenging even on hard.
8-Mar-21 3:31pm
#17
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I could skip them all on NG but I didn't try first play through.
8-Mar-21 3:35pm
#18
Gypsy
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Feeb wrote:
I could skip them all on NG but I didn't try first play through.
Yeah after looking more online, seems they are not skippable in the first playthrough.
8-Mar-21 5:29pm
#19
Anxiouz
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Not skippable. Some are decent and I liked them, but some are a total drag. And there are a lot.
8-Mar-21 5:41pm
#20
Gypsy
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Anxiouz wrote:
And there are a lot.
This definitely seemed to be the case. I'll have to see if I start feeling it more or just want to ditch now while it still has decent value.
8-Mar-21 5:44pm
#21
Feeb
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Sounds like a good drinking game.

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