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17-Feb-18 10:33am
#2
SilverOwl
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Gypsy wrote:
TalonJedi87 wrote:> Most games have bugs at launch nowadays. It's just something we have to get accustomed> to. I mean if the game is fun beyond some annoying bugs and glitches that's all that> matters because you're right, they will eventually get patched. Look at Monster Hunter> World. It's been out 2 weeks and it's already been patched 6 times, going on 7. I have beat some buggy messes before so as long as the game is fun I will trooper through. However do companies really deserve $60 if they can't release a proper game? I say speak with your wallet. I've got too many games I own and have never played to support a bugged out game day one. Companies using people paying full price as beta testers is https://www.youtube.... "Preordering is for suckers" ~ @DiamondDave probably

I totally agree with what u say.

But have to say a comment about if they deserve the $60.
Some games yes, even if they are buggy, would be worth full price to me.
Value is subjective to each person.
What are you going to do next gen, when they raise the base price up from $60 for new games. Bc tbh a lot of games are well worth $40 and $60, but would any base game be worth $70-$80?
17-Feb-18 10:54am
#3
Gypsy
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Has there been confirmation that prices are going up? Games have been $50-60 for a long time now so given inflation I could see costs going up but I am wondering because this would impact things. Of course with all dlc lots of games have already been more than $60 if you want all the content. Since you asked though, I'd keep doing what I'm doing. I rarely buy games at full price now so I'm certainly not doing it at $80, even accounting for 20% off that with stuff like BB GCU.

I suppose I should have said do they deserve full retail for releasing a bugged product, rather than a specific price. It's not so much the exact price point as it is I don't feel companies deserve full price if they want to release a beta version. I wouldn't buy a $30-40 game at launch if it's barely playable. I still haven't bought Ys VIII because of the google translate job they ran on it. I'll get it eventually, probably after it's actually been fixed. Ultimately it's just a principle thing and these companies aren't hurting for purchase I'm just saying we don't have to accept it.
17-Feb-18 10:59am
#4
Gypsy
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Also, sorry for all this bullcrap. We should talk about games being fun or something.

I've been playing some Shovel Knight again lately (on PS4) and this is really what a proper retro game should be. Well designed, fun and not just an obvious cash-grab with lazy visuals.
17-Feb-18 11:09am
#5
SilverOwl
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@Gypsy
Ys VIII got the translation patch last month. It's so much better now.
Also, they have not said for sure that prices on games will be going up, but I could see it happening. Specifically since lootboxes are getting a lot of heat and some companies are greedy
17-Feb-18 11:18am
#6
Gypsy
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SilverOwl wrote:
@Gypsy Ys VIII got the translation patch last month. It's so much better now. Also, they have not said for sure that prices on games will be going up, but I could see it happening. Specifically since lootboxes are getting a lot of heat and some companies are greedy
Oh it was actually released? Whoops my bad it is. Last I knew it had been delayed. Looking forward to playing that now.

I could definitely see price increases happening. Like I said we are close to there already with stuff like dlc season passes.
17-Feb-18 11:37am
#7
tonymack21
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That's why we have season passes and dlc..I've seen alot about this and it said by all rights games should have gone to 70 by now but they people will be mad and they will lose some of those day ones and first week sales and alot of games make the majority of their money in the first couple weeks in comparison to their lifespan...hence they make it up with dlc and microtransactions...which everyone hates but they make billions on them so someone is doing MT's out there.

17-Feb-18 12:38pm
#8
TalonJedi87
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This is why I miss the days when there used to be game demos before games came out. It would help for situations like a game like KCD. At least have a beta for people to test and if there's any bugs and glitches have the community report it so it can be patched prior to the game's release. The problem with KCD is I believe their budget was really tight, so a beta or demo was probably too costly to come out before the game's release.
17-Feb-18 12:43pm
#9
Gypsy
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TalonJedi87 wrote:
This is why I miss the days when there used to be game demos before games came out. It would help for situations like a game like KCD. At least have a beta for people to test and if there's any bugs and glitches have the community report it so it can be patched prior to the game's release. The problem with KCD is I believe their budget was really tight, so a beta or demo was probably too costly to come out before the game's release.
Demos were gas.

Didn't know about the tight budget for KCD but that makes sense given that it was a KS from a company that hasn't released a game before iirc. The guy split from 2K Europe or something like that.
17-Feb-18 3:10pm
#10
SilverOwl
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Gypsy wrote:
TalonJedi87 wrote:> This is why I miss the days when there used to be game demos before games came out.> It would help for situations like a game like KCD. At least have a beta for people> to test and if there's any bugs and glitches have the community report it so it can> be patched prior to the game's release. The problem with KCD is I believe their budget> was really tight, so a beta or demo was probably too costly to come out before the> game's release. Demos were gas. Didn't know about the tight budget for KCD but that makes sense given that it was a KS from a company that hasn't released a game before iirc. The guy split from 2K Europe or something like that.
Well to be honest, KCD has had a beta on PC for like well over a year. You can see hundreds of videos of people playing the beta, from like at least 1.5 years ago.
I'm pretty sure the budget for this game was $5 million usd, compare that to like the 80 million that Skyrim originally had.
I think it's a great game, i have not had a single crash-that would have me restart the game or system. And most of the bugs are either silly or funny and I'm pretty sure they will get many patched out soon
17-Feb-18 6:05pm
#11
Dasgessabel
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Archer wrote:
I bet the lock picking is 1000x better on PC.
Lockpicking is better on PC, but the way you have to do it is still odd. I just modded it out. All I need is a lockpick, the required skill level (I can try to pick higher than my skill still but then I'd have to deal with it again), and it opens.
17-Feb-18 9:35pm
#12
Anxiouz
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tonymack21 wrote:
That's why we have season passes and dlc.
True but I haven't felt confident to give any game full season pass $ upfront. Its a real crap shoot.
17-Feb-18 10:46pm
#13
Heavyd814life
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I don't know if any of you guys have played it yet, but World of Final Fantasy is a ton of fun. It's a weird little game, but all the systems work really well for the most part. I'm even getting used to the camera which I wasn't crazy about in the beginning. Every single cameo by a Final Fantasy character has brought a smile to my face. Definitely worth checking out if you are a fan of the series.

17-Feb-18 11:00pm
#14
Dasgessabel
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Heavyd814life wrote:
I don't know if any of you guys have played it yet, but World of Final Fantasy is a ton of fun. It's a weird little game, but all the systems work really well for the most part. I'm even getting used to the camera which I wasn't crazy about in the beginning. Every single cameo by a Final Fantasy character has brought a smile to my face. Definitely worth checking out if you are a fan of the series.
Yah, I bought it when you told me about it being on sale - and I still haven't played it. I will at some point though, because it looks like a more relaxing experience, which I will probably need after KCD.
18-Feb-18 12:17am
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tonymack21
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Heavyd814life wrote:
I don't know if any of you guys have played it yet, but World of Final Fantasy is a ton of fun. It's a weird little game, but all the systems work really well for the most part. I'm even getting used to the camera which I wasn't crazy about in the beginning. Every single cameo by a Final Fantasy character has brought a smile to my face. Definitely worth checking out if you are a fan of the series.
Ya I loved it..the game itself is better than average in spots but this game shines in what it's actually meant to be and that is a love letter for those who grew up with the series and remembers fondly their first adventures with these characters. And it's super good at that. I can see someone who hasn't played all the games and doesn't have the memories to think it's very average or even below average..lann is insufferable..he's with vaan as the worst FF character ever for me, but it's not enough to strip the magic away when a great character comes in..at times reenacting a classic scene or alongside a classic theme.


18-Feb-18 1:14am
#16
Tim81DE
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I loved World of Final Fantasy. Easily my favorite FF in the past few years.

Just beat Shadow of the Colossus. It's an amazing experience, like I remember, but after playing The Last Guardian it sort of pales in comparison. I was always more of an Ico fan. Regardless, the remaster is fantastic. Anyone that hasn't played I recommend giving it a shot!
18-Feb-18 3:06am
#17
Archer
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I'm so angry right now. I lost 3.5 hours of game play in KCD because of the crapty save system.
18-Feb-18 4:28am
#18
Uppercat
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Guess you should've been more careful lul
18-Feb-18 5:31am
#19
sixteenvolt420
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Anxiouz wrote:
tonymack21 wrote:> That's why we have season passes and dlc. True but I haven't felt confident to give any game full season pass $ upfront. Its a real crap shoot.
Fallout 4 is all that i got a season pass for. That was only because i got that bundle with the socks and season pass and only paid $10 more than retail, of the regular version.
18-Feb-18 1:04pm
#20
SilverOwl
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Archer wrote:
I'm so angry right now. I lost 3.5 hours of game play in KCD because of the crapty save system.
How did u lose that much? Did u just not save in a bed enough, or was it bc of glitched saves?

I must have gotten lucky, I'm on xbox, and we never got the day one patch, and I have yet to have any major game saving or breaking issue. Sure, plenty of bugs, but mostly funny ones.
Nothing where I had to restart the game or system, or where I lost gameplay, well unless I died and then that would be my fault if I didn't save recently
18-Feb-18 1:51pm
#21
Gypsy
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Archer wrote:
I'm so angry right now. I lost 3.5 hours of game play in KCD because of the crapty save system.
Wow, this shouldn't even be possible in a game released in 2018. What happened?

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