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10-Nov-18 4:51pm
#1
ninesalone
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This topic had many older posts which were moved here:

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Met a guy from Brazil recently and got to talking about the recent election. His words...

"Now, just to elaborate a bit more while still in the subject of politics...
I'm not sure if you're aware, but Brazil's biggest problems are: corruption, doutrination and violence. All of the three closely tied with the last 13 years of government from PT (Workers Party), which goes without saying that is a damn Communist party and the most influential from the Left here in South America and Latin America overall.
Corruption, specially, was their mark around here. Spreading misery and suffering across the nation, yet posing as the good guys who "cared for the poor" and wanted all Brazilians to "reach college". Universities and schools that are predominently Leftists and whose teachers lecture how the PT, Lula and Dilma were glorious leaders, how Che Guevara was a HERO and not a mass murderer and that our citzens' taxes money going to Cuba or Venezuela was "humanitary"...
But so Bolsonaro erupted.. a couple years ago, no one could expect he would even run for presidency.. heck! I didn't even know who was the guy at the time!
He came in evidence not for the right reasons, not even ideally reasons... all we see was some politically incorrect comments from him regarding this and that. But the guy had some balls, to be sure.
He woudn't go quiet in face of some injustices, goverment's decisions and all the wrongs that have befallen on us. He's also a former military, he praises order and discipline... and above all, he is one of the few politicians in Brazil today that isn't charged of corruption or is being investigated by the feds. Which already says A LOT, believe me.
Aside from all this, things here became to change.. slowly but steadily, men with power, politicians and such, began to go to jail for corruption crimes.. which scared all of them. Suddenly a Federal Judge called Sergio Moro had the balls to do a rightful judge's job and sent even Lula to prison! A former president. That... never happened before! People couldn't believe it. And so people started to have hope for a change, which ultimately elected Bolsonaro. Despite the Left, the PT's propaganda.. against all the odds..."

Sounds pretty damn familiar to what goes on in our country with leftists, especially the Universities pushing this garbage ideology.

26-Jan-19 11:26pm
#2
Uppercat
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally

Lol no. That's even worse. Are you trolling right now?
26-Jan-19 11:28pm
#3
MikeyWhoa
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader

Who would you recommend to read up on border security then?
26-Jan-19 11:32pm
#4
ninesalone
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally

MikeyWhoa wrote:
Uppercat wrote:> Why would I bother reading something that's probably full of cherry picked information?> All I have to do is read her bio to know that she has nothing important to add. I> wouldn't go to her for anything on border security just like I wouldn't ask someone> on the right anything about Judeo-Christian values or guns. Give me information> from someone that doesn't have a dog in the fight. How about the Dept. of Homeland Security, U.S. Dept. of Labor, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, The American Immigration Council, and the Pew Research Center? Are those sources you'd recommend on border security?
I think I'll trust the people that work on the border. You know, the people that mostly support Trump and even show up to speak with him to explain what security measures they need.

Of course that woman is cherry-picking data and you could easily ignore her based on her Twitter "resume." Just look at her initial message. "As a scientist" I'm going to use my PhD skills." On what? What is her PhD in? Oh. C'mon dude you got to do better than that. She is not qualified to speak on the subject and she uses irrelevant "credentials" to prop up her obviously biased argument.


26-Jan-19 11:46pm
#5
MikeyWhoa
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader

So, does anybody have any counter-information on the subject, or are we just going with the usual "I'll ignore these facts because they're inconvenient and a SJW repeated them."

None of us here are qualified to speak on most any subject we discuss. Doesn't make plain statistics any less true.

You are genuinely arguing exactly how you complain that liberals argue their points.

For example, if she cherry-picked, then show me where.

If the facts she stated are untrue, then show me where.

If she's wrong, then prove it.

As of right now, your arguments are basically an unsourced "Nuh-uh."

I don't need her to be right or wrong. I don't care. But you need to come correct. Stop debating and discussing like an elementary student.
26-Jan-19 11:48pm
#6
MikeyWhoa
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader

And now the discussion has devolved into discussing each other.

I should've learned by now. Brick Facebook walls.
26-Jan-19 11:51pm
#7
Uppercat
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally

MikeyWhoa wrote:

I don't need her to be right But you need to come correct.
Fighting an uphill battle from the start.
27-Jan-19 12:01am
#8
theyrhere
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews

MikeyWhoa wrote:
And now the discussion has devolved into discussing each other. I should've learned by now. Brick Facebook walls.
You should know by now that real world data has no effect on certain opinions, my dude.
27-Jan-19 12:16am
#9
Karaiya
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 1 Review

All the problematic bullcrap these dudes are spitting is a result of not wanting to read.

Explain why you dont want to read the information shes shared? Instead of calling her an SJW libtard feminazi why dont you do the homework.

Oh, that's right you gotta take back RE2.

Lazy ass doges.
27-Jan-19 12:19am
#10
theyrhere
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews

Karaiya wrote:
All the problematic bullcrap these dudes are spitting is a result of not wanting read. Explain why you dont want to read the information shes shared? Instead of calling her an SJW libtard feminazi why dont you do the homework. Oh, that's right you gotta take back RE2. Lazy ass doges.
Don't worry, the border patrol agents who only took the job because their local PD wouldn't hire them are a much more reliable source of info.
27-Jan-19 12:21am
#11
MikeyWhoa
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theyrhere wrote:
MikeyWhoa wrote:> And now the discussion has devolved into discussing each other.> > I should've learned by now. Brick Facebook walls. You should know by now that real world data has no effect on certain opinions, my dude.

The thing is, I'm not delusional enough to think I'm going to change any opinions. It's not my goal at all. I just want information. You have info I don't? I'll take it! Give me the dissention and counter-arguments. Hell, this isn't even MY argument.

It's just they can't seem to get past their fixation of anything remotely liberal. It is easily their biggest trigger. Then they scream bullcrap. It's fudging weird. Happy to be clueless, yet still convinced of their own endless wisdom and ability to draw nonsense conclusions.

Just trying to get informed by them. That's how stupid I am.
27-Jan-19 12:26am
#12
whitefire
GameTZ Subscriber 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Secret Santa

MikeyWhoa wrote:
Who would you recommend to read up on border security then?
Shocking that this wasn't answered.

27-Jan-19 12:30am
#13
MikeyWhoa
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader

whitefire wrote:
MikeyWhoa wrote:> Who would you recommend to read up on border security then? Shocking that this wasn't answered.

Eh, par for the frequently used Trump golf club.

I'll have to read the rest of their sick burns tomorrow. Gotta sleep.
27-Jan-19 12:33am
#14
Karaiya
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 1 Review

MikeyWhoa wrote:
theyrhere wrote:> MikeyWhoa wrote: |>> And now the discussion has devolved into discussing each other. |>> |>> I should've learned by now. Brick Facebook walls.> > You should know by now that real world data has no effect on certain opinions, my> dude. The thing is, I'm not delusional enough to think I'm going to change any opinions. It's not my goal at all. I just want information. You have info I don't? I'll take it! Give me the dissention and counter-arguments. Hell, this isn't even MY argument. It's just they can't seem to get past their fixation of anything remotely liberal. It is easily their biggest trigger. Then they scream bullcrap. It's fudging weird. Happy to be clueless, yet still convinced of their own endless wisdom and ability to draw nonsense conclusions. Just trying to get informed by them. That's how stupid I am.
You're right.
27-Jan-19 12:37am
#15
Karaiya
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 1 Review

whitefire wrote:
MikeyWhoa wrote:> Who would you recommend to read up on border security then? Shocking that this wasn't answered.
That would require the sharing of scholarly literature made by subject matter specialists instead of linking Tweets to the opinions of talking heads to validate one another's feelings.
27-Jan-19 1:12am
#16
Mexico
Double Gold Good Trader

Karaiya wrote:
All the problematic bullcrap these dudes are spitting is a result of not wanting to read. Explain why you dont want to read the information shes shared? Instead of calling her an SJW libtard feminazi why dont you do the homework. Oh, that's right you gotta take back RE2. Lazy ass doges.
Do you want me to post my redbox receipt? (played about 2.5 hours of claire's A scenario), I am tired wanting to layback and relax after working all week and I know you tards don't even bother reading any of the crap posted. Yes I know exactly which BS the dumb subversive cum doctor is talking about because it is the typical crap trotted out by libtards. Conviction rates are not as apparent because they drop charges for various crimes as it is easier to get them on immigration charges and deport, blacks and hispanics in the population have higher crime rates especially among anchor babies. depending on city/county/states procedures citizenship is not taken into account at all. Hell even going by libtard numbers and counting those that are convicted of homicide as only killing 1 person then illegals still kill at a rate that is 35x more than any type of rifle but they will beat the ban assault weapons drum while ignoring illegals. They do not pay as much into taxes and abuse services so that they end up being net negative tax payers, cheaper labor is promoted when we have jobless americans by both the right citing muh GDP as wages are suppressed by a larger labor pool leading to more wealth inequality plus inflation and by the left stating it is a moral good that must not be questioned or you are a bigot that deserves to be a jobless homeless bum, that the people it affects don't matter and deserve to be replaced if they can't specialize into another field. It affects markets in such a way that people will need resources causing inflation such as housing. The number of illegals is not properly tracked at all especially from border crossings as they will count visa overstays minus deportations and census data of non citizens not taking into account people lying, using stolen identities, or ignoring the census.

https://cis.org/Repo...
https://cis.org/Cama...
https://cis.org/Cama...
https://papers.ssrn....

We have gone over time and time again that a wall is not 100% effective and that it is not the only measure needing to be done but idiots will argue it is better to do nothing because it makes them seem virtuous and feel good. Kind of like an idiot not wanting to change the motor oil on a car because the car is going to die sometime anyways what difference does it make if it is at 50k vs 160k miles.
27-Jan-19 1:16am
#17
Mexico
Double Gold Good Trader

MikeyWhoa wrote:
whitefire wrote:> MikeyWhoa wrote: |>> Who would you recommend to read up on border security then?> > Shocking that this wasn't answered.> > Eh, par for the frequently used Trump golf club. I'll have to read the rest of their sick burns tomorrow. Gotta sleep.
Funny always need to go find or prove double negatives myself and learn about what I am interested on my own but y'all don't know how to search the world wide web
27-Jan-19 1:41am
#18
Mexico
Double Gold Good Trader

Screw it, my insomnia is kicking back in and I finished off the rest of the chicken I had made for dinner. Going to go back out and rent RE2 again after midnight turning it into an all-nighter with the help of some rockstars.

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27-Jan-19 7:46am
#19
Uppercat
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally

whitefire wrote:
MikeyWhoa wrote:> Who would you recommend to read up on border security then? Shocking that this wasn't answered.
It was, you just chose to ignore it so you and your buddies could have some kind of moral victory. Take them where you can get them I guess. I know they don't come very often.
27-Jan-19 8:06am
#20
Uppercat
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally

Also: "Humberside Police tell man to 'check his thinking' after he likes 'offensive transgender limerick' on Twitter"

https://archive.fo/S...

This is after they tell someone that their resources are stretched too thin to investigate a serious incident which resulted in someone's death.

Followed by the police doubling down and getting owned on Twitter

Someone remind these people that 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual.
27-Jan-19 8:12am
#21
Uppercat
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally

Also also: Kinda funny how leftist activists journalists are upset with people telling them to "learn to code" after they've been laid off when it's the exact same thing they said to working class white Americans whose jobs were outsourced or automated.

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