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We need to talk about the HBO Max & Discovery+ merger
5-Aug-22 3:22pm
#1
EclipseLion
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Discovery bought WB and now from now on will be called Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD)
A merged app between HBO Max and Discovery+ will roll out summer of 2023

There have already been several titles cut from HBO Max:

• Amy
• Amsterdam
• An American Pickle
• Charm City Kings
• Czech It Out
• Final Space (I personally enjoyed this one)
• Full Bloom
• Here and Now
• Locked Down
• Moonshot
• Mrs. Fletcher
• Vinyl
• The Witches (2020)

Titles To Be Removed:

12 Dates of Christmas
About Last Night
Aquaman: King of Atlantis
Close Enough
Detention Adventure
Dodo
Ellen's Next Great Designer
Elliott From Earth
Esme & Roy
The Fungies!
Generation Hustle
Genera+ion
Infinity Train
Little Ellen
Mao Mao, Heroes of Pure Heart
Messy Goes to Okido
Mia's Magic Playground
Mighty Magiswords
My Dinner with Herve
My Mom, Your Dad
Odo
OK K.O.! -- Let's Be Heroes
The Ollie & Moon Show
Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures
Ravi Patel's Pursuit of Happiness
Select Sesame Street Specials
Make It Big, Make It Small
Share
Squish
Summer Camp Island
The Not-Too-Late Show with Elmo
The Runaway Bunny -- Special
Theodosia
Tig n' Seek
Uncle Grandpa
Victor and Valentino
Yabba Dabba Dinosaurs

One thing Discovery is adding to HBO Max is what they've coined as 'the EXCLUSIVE HOME of the 90-DAY UNIVERSE' ("90 Day Fiancι Universe.")
There will no longer be WB movies premiering on HBO Max, not after executives saw that Top Gun: Maverick was the critical movie that got people back into theaters en masse in a post covid world, aka "Tom Cruise saves the movie theater industry."
Batgirl (starring Leslie Grace and featuring Michael Keaton reprising his role as Batman) was the next direct-to-streaming movie that would've been released on HBO Max, that movie was canceled and shelved indefinitely after the near-complete film bombed after two test screenings, one in its original form and the second after changes were made after constructive criticisms were made from the first screening. WB has deemed the film 'Irredeemable' even though it's reported its cost was 90 million to make. The upcoming Supergirl film (starring Sasha Calle) will not be moving forward as a by-product of the Batgirl film cancellation. It's unsure what'll happen with the Harry Potter spinoff series' fantastic beasts but what is certain is that the latest film secrets of Dumbledore is the worst-grossing film of the entire franchise.
One of the best things (in my opinion) to come out of this is that little Ellen (think Little Bill (Cosby) but for Ellen Degeneres) has been canceled before its 3rd season.




5-Aug-22 4:35pm
#2
bumsplikity
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Maybe now we can get the boat from Deadliest Catch as a character in Multiversus.
5-Aug-22 5:10pm
#3
SwiftJAB
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader

Consolidations of streaming services to make streaming more like cable/satellite TV packages is what everyone is clamoring for. Right?

5-Aug-22 5:14pm
#4
KCPenguins
Gold Good Trader

Time to cancel Discovery+ as soon as the cost increases.
5-Aug-22 6:56pm
#5
Porksta
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Good thing I have a large shelf of physical media.

5-Aug-22 7:51pm
#6
DrizzDrizzDrizz
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Wait Final Space wasnt done after s3?
5-Aug-22 9:12pm
#7
Foxhack
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The new CEO is burying almost finished products and writing them off for tax purposes. It's insane. That guy is killing Warner Bros on purpose and I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of a plan to resell everything for some profit.
6-Aug-22 4:40am
#8
EclipseLion
GameTZ Subscriber Quadruple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally

DrizzDrizzDrizz wrote:
Wait Final Space wasnt done after s3?
Cut as in you can no longer access it on HBO max. I still had episodes left and have to use a site like wcostream to finish up the series

6-Aug-22 3:49pm
#9
DarkFact
GameTZ Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews

Foxhack wrote:
The new CEO is burying almost finished products and writing them off for tax purposes. It's insane. That guy is killing Warner Bros on purpose and I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of a plan to resell everything for some profit.
I would imagine if Batgirl hadn't audience tested so ghastly (reportedly!) and had a main character star nobody'd heard of flanked by a bunch of people they HAD heard of, it probably would have gone to Streaming instead of ...not. See Sandman, that was actually released and reportedly is quite good, so it doesn't make sense that they'd take a finished product and say they're pivoting away from Streaming so it's not coming out. It must have actually been brand harming for a production company that put out unwatchable crap like Batwoman to say "Nah, not that"
6-Aug-22 7:00pm
#10
Foxhack
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Explain the Scoob sequel being canned when it was so close to being finished, and them saying they're pivoting away from animation. And all the other canceled projects and shows. And their DISASTROUS presentation from the other day.

The management is completely out of touch with reality AND the people who actually watch HBO.
6-Aug-22 7:12pm
#11
theJaw
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Batgirl literally scored the same test screening score as Black Adam, which is still going forward. The Flash is still going forward despite its wildly abusive and groomer star.

There's a very obvious reason Batgirl was the movie scrapped, and it's fudging lame.
6-Aug-22 7:42pm
#12
Foxhack
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We're not even sure what's gonna happen with the Flash movie considering the amount of crap the lead guy keeps getting into. I was expecting them to replace him and reshoot of all his footage... but at this point who knows.
6-Aug-22 8:10pm
#13
theJaw
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"The Flash Movie Reportedly Safe After WB's Shock Batgirl Cancellation"

https://screenrant.c...

Who knows what "make them better" means, but I hope it means replacing Miller in The Flash. Flashpoint is the easiest story to do so. Regardless, the movie is still very much going forward as planned as of right now.
6-Aug-22 9:04pm
#14
Archer
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theJaw wrote:
"The Flash Movie Reportedly Safe After WB's Shock Batgirl Cancellation" https://screenrant.c... Who knows what "make them better" means, but I hope it means replacing Miller in The Flash. Flashpoint is the easiest story to do so. Regardless, the movie is still very much going forward as planned as of right now.
That is bat crap insane. How has this dude not been canceled and put in prison.
6-Aug-22 9:23pm
#15
Foxhack
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Archer wrote:
theJaw wrote:> "The Flash Movie Reportedly Safe After WB's Shock Batgirl Cancellation"> > https://screenrant.c...> > Who knows what "make them better" means, but I hope it means replacing Miller in> The Flash. Flashpoint is the easiest story to do so. Regardless, the movie is still> very much going forward as planned as of right now. That is bat crap insane. How has this dude not been canceled and put in prison.
That's what I'm wondering, too! The guy is a massive liability, his contract must have some serious power for them to not risk breaking it.
6-Aug-22 9:43pm
#16
DarkFact
GameTZ Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews

theJaw wrote:
"The Flash Movie Reportedly Safe After WB's Shock Batgirl Cancellation"
Now that makes no fudging sense
7-Aug-22 2:07am
#17
theJaw
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader

Apparently the fella who is spearheading this WB/Discovery merger and has control over HBO Max is the same dude who destroyed CNN+ the same week he took it over. Opinions on CNN aside, the service didn't pull major numbers but most services give themselves an allotted time to grow. So lots of folks have reported that this dude nixing CNN+ after one single week was likely out of spite for the previous regime having dared to start a streaming service without his inclusion. Kevin Smith even talked about this stuff on his most recent "Hollywood Babble-On" podcast. Now this same dude has control of HBO Max, and it's already been revealed that he plans on starting a new service to replace HBO Max in 2023. It has been confirmed that there will be no more WB releases straight to HBO Max, and WB movies in general will no longer be released to HBO Max after 45 days in theaters.

Now, movies based on DC properties will be releasing solely to theaters, with a complete erasure of focus on streaming properties. Aka HBO Max movies and TV shows. He apparently claimed this was due to Disney's success with the Marvel franchise, while COMPLETELY disregarding how Disney/Marvel have very obviously taken the leap into streaming with several expensive, successful streaming shows existing in their franchise.

This new guy in charge is OUT OF TOUCH and anything that falls under the WB/Discovery umbrella is entirely up in the air at this point. Makes me worried for AEW, a wrestling company that rules but also relies on the whim of batty Discovery executives at this point, quality be damned. And Peacemaker Season 2, which is the poster boy for DC streaming TV at this point.
7-Aug-22 5:14am
#18
ryanflucas
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"Little Ellen"? Wtf kind of crap is that? That's as bad as a "Little Drew" (Barrymore) if it ever existed.
8-Aug-22 3:27am
#19
BioHazardMan
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Does anybody else think WB should just embrace the meme at this point and release Batgirl for rental or something? I was chatting with a friend of mine and I'm like I'd easily pay $10 to rent it for the meme value alone, could be an even more popular Morbius if they play their cards right, I feel with all the negative hype they could turn a profit that way
8-Aug-22 3:34am
#20
theJaw
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader

If we're going by the whole "cancelled because it was bad" narrative, you'd still theoretically get the exact level of "meme value" from Black Adam as they both received the same test screening scores. So no worries regarding the memes! Personally, I think they should just release Batgirl the way initially intended so that folks can watch and judge whether it's good or bad all on their own. Especially considering it's already 90% completed.
8-Aug-22 8:52am
#21
DarkFact
GameTZ Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews

What if it's really, really fudging bad and hurts the brand

Like, worse than Justice League, which had Ben Affleck running away screaming

Like, I wouldn't mind seeing it, I love a good cringer, but typically people don't do this sort of stuff out of spite. I'm sure you can inject studio politics into this stuff all you want, but this would have been an easy drop, hide and watch release, especially if it tested well, which it sounds like it did not.

We need to talk about the HBO Max & Discovery+ merger