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12-Jul-19 9:10pm
#1
Jester695
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It's never too early......

I'm thinking I might love this 18/16 season game proposal by the owners in new CBA negotiations. At the very least I'm fascinated. In short, 18 regular season games (presumably fewer preseason ones) but any player may only be used in a max of 16. Certainly adds a whole new facet to coaching strategy and gives greater importance to back-ups. Roster counts will certainly be affected in some way. Wouldn't wanna see some on-the-bubble roster spot get cut because the team needs a second kicker some particular week. More overall opportunity for scrubs to show if they can play and maybe get a better job on another team then. I'm curious to hear when these inactives would have to be announced. With as huge as betting is on NFL games, they are gonna have to announce far enough in advance (interesting for fantasy players too). And whichever team establishes itself as the worst in the league by the second half, they will have a lot more chances to win games in that second half when all their opponents are sitting a starting QB and next best player against them. Minor injuries would have a lessened impact, if that player was going to have to sit two games anyhow.....now he has more opportunity to still get 16 games played.

All kinds of interesting dynamic possibilities. I don't see a lot of negatives at all. More money for the league, so half goes to the players. Deep-bench players gain more importance and more spotlight chances to improve their job positions. Will have to be more roster spots so at least some jobs will be created. Strategy implications all over the place. (I hate that betting changes how things ought to be sometimes. Imagine Aaron Rodgers getting sat for a game they think they can win without him, but it's a nailbiter, so they decide to bring him in off the bench in the fourth quarter to get that win. They sacrifice some other game down the road that he would have played in to lock up the win now. Does the other team do the same thing maybe? Would certainly be exciting if that was a possibility, but it'll never happen.)
17-Oct-19 9:30pm
#2
KCPenguins
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shadyfozzie wrote:
Down goes Mahomes.. That's not good ...

Knee. Ruled out after x-ray. You could see them pop something back in on his knee, I'm guessing his knee cap. Bad news indeed.

In b4 Madden curse.

Also, horrible play call. Who calls a qb sneak with your MVP who has had multiple ankle injuries?
17-Oct-19 9:33pm
#3
dustin11
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That madden curse though....
20-Oct-19 5:39pm
#4
KCPenguins
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Should the NFL just get rid of instant replay? This year is the worst I've ever seen it. Official reviews result in overturns with questionable evidence. Team challenges have indisputable evidence and get denied. It's like they've been instructed to fudge up as much as possible. Reminds me of George Costanza when he was trying to get fired from the Yankees.
20-Oct-19 5:46pm
#5
Kommie
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Wilson Pick-6'ed
20-Oct-19 5:47pm
#6
dustin11
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I don't know, I feel like every single year people say that the officiating is the worst its ever been. I don't recall seeing any time where people have said the refs had improved since the year before.
20-Oct-19 5:59pm
#7
KCPenguins
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dustin11 wrote:
I don't know, I feel like every single year people say that the officiating is the worst its ever been. I don't recall seeing any time where people have said the refs had improved since the year before.

Maybe. I actually thought they were ok the last few years. Sure they blow some calls, but usually it was within the confines of the replay rules. This year it seems like there are two rule books, and if a team challenges a called or no called penalty they will lose. The flip side is an official challenge is more likely to be overturned. Mind you, this is from observing games where I don't have a dog in the fight. I don't think the ref union wants subjective replay by teams.
20-Oct-19 6:20pm
#8
KCPenguins
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Good to see Teddy doing well.
20-Oct-19 6:48pm
#9
MikeyWhoa
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dustin11 wrote:
I don't know, I feel like every single year people say that the officiating is the worst its ever been. I don't recall seeing any time where people have said the refs had improved since the year before.

Unless you improve the human genome somehow, or introduce robotic umps, it'll always be this way. Expecting four old guys to keep pace with young professional athletes, see every infraction in a matter of seconds, and then criticize them from your couch with slow-motion 4K clarity is absurd. Fans get to see a crystal clear replay over and over, and like to scream "How do you miss THAT!?"

Calls go bad for everyone. They went good for the Packers last week. They worked against them on the fail-mary, and will fudge them and everyone else again. It's just life.

It's also not the stripes usually. It's the absurd rules. Tapping a qbs head is roughing, or bobbling a ball after taking a few steps is now incomplete. They have to enforce those rules whether they agree or not.

In other words, make the best of the impossible situation. The refs/umps are very rarely THE reason a game is won or lost.
21-Oct-19 11:28am
#10
lpeters82
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KCPenguins wrote:
Should the NFL just get rid of instant replay?
Overall, I like instant replay, but my preference would be to get rid of it for pass interference. What we have now was an overreaction. I would also be in favor of officials being instructed to throw less flags overall. More missed calls, but I'd rather have missed calls then phantom calls.

PS: I'm actually amazed with how good officiating is. It's crazy how often they get it right. It's easy to see things when they are pointed out in slow motion, but in real time, it really is impressive how good they are at being in position and making the right call.
21-Oct-19 11:31am
#11
dustin11
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The ruffing the passer calls have possibly been the worst ever this year though. You can't hit Russell Wilson without drawing a flag.
21-Oct-19 11:36am
#12
lpeters82
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dustin11 wrote:
The ruffing the passer calls have possibly been the worst ever this year though. You can't hit Russell Wilson without drawing a flag.
Clay Matthews might disagree with you.

EDIT: It's been bad since 2009 after Tom Brady got hurt and became worse in 2018 after Aaron Rodgers got hurt.
21-Oct-19 10:16pm
#13
dustin11
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Jets possessions so far today in order:

Interception
Punt
Fumble
Interception
Downs
Interception
Safety
21-Oct-19 10:21pm
#14
dustin11
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Add another interception to that.
22-Oct-19 9:37am
#15
shadyfozzie
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Rich get richer. Sanu to the Patriots.. Hoped the 49ers got him, but alas, they did not.
22-Oct-19 9:39am
#16
shadyfozzie
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Darnold's final fantasy score last night was a -6.66 . 3.44 points for his 86 passing yards (.04 per yard), -.1 for rushing yards (-1 yards) and -10 for 5 turnovers (-8 for 4 INTs, -2 for Fumble).
No wonder he was seeing ghosts.
22-Oct-19 3:44pm
#17
lpeters82
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shadyfozzie wrote:
Rich get richer. Sanu to the Patriots.. Hoped the 49ers got him, but alas, they did not.
9ers got Sanders
22-Oct-19 4:57pm
#18
KCPenguins
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Both those trades seem a little steep for the buyers, especially Sanu. A second round pick for a number 2 or 3 wr? I guess we'll see.
22-Oct-19 5:09pm
#19
shadyfozzie
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the one thing SF was missing was the WR experience.. Pettis and Goodwin are still young.. Sanders will open up a lot for Kittle.. I like the trade, even if they gave up a little more than they should have..
22-Oct-19 5:55pm
#20
KCPenguins
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shadyfozzie wrote:
the one thing SF was missing was the WR experience.. Pettis and Goodwin are still young.. Sanders will open up a lot for Kittle.. I like the trade, even if they gave up a little more than they should have..

That one wasn't horrible.

Lions traded starting safety Diggs to swap a 2021 7th for a 2020 5th. Not saying he's great, but wierd...
23-Oct-19 1:01pm
#21
lpeters82
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KCPenguins wrote:
Both those trades seem a little steep for the buyers, especially Sanu. A second round pick for a number 2 or 3 wr? I guess we'll see.
Keep in mind that it's the Patriots 2nd round pick, which will be very late. They also had the ammunition as they will likely have four picks in the first three rounds (1st, 3rd, 3rd, and 3rd). Sanu is also still under contract, so he's not just a one year loan.

2019 NFL season discussion