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2-Oct-19 7:16pm
#1 Sun
Other thread was closed...so here we are.
Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
#1 Sun
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Other thread was closed...so here we are.
Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
1-Mar-22 3:46pm
#201 akfa
Found the Walmart exclusive Sting figure today just chilling, sweet!
Things I'm randomly thinking about lately, and I say this as an AEW mark. I love Page, was there for his win at Full Gear, it was one of the best storyline culminations. HOWEVER, things seem like they simmered since then. We don't see him doing much every week, he did have the fun matches with Danielson, he did beat Archer, and he's got Cole coming up, but compared to Jericho/Mox/Omega, the "World Title" feels a little less....visible? Maybe I'm just being picky.
The Mox/Danielson angle has been so cool, really love the promos and the build up. Moxley is on another level back, sober. Also, Jade has grown on me quite a bit. Yeah her matches aren't too clean, but I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt there. She's improving every week, she's got the goods for the long haul I think. Wardlow? Is he going to be a superstar? Is this a flash in the pan popularity? How can AEW manage to get both him and Keith Lee over in that ladder match at Revolution? Just fun random things I've been thinking about. Also- MJF got me hooked on using the word "Mid" for a lot of things for fun
#201 akfa
Found the Walmart exclusive Sting figure today just chilling, sweet!
Things I'm randomly thinking about lately, and I say this as an AEW mark. I love Page, was there for his win at Full Gear, it was one of the best storyline culminations. HOWEVER, things seem like they simmered since then. We don't see him doing much every week, he did have the fun matches with Danielson, he did beat Archer, and he's got Cole coming up, but compared to Jericho/Mox/Omega, the "World Title" feels a little less....visible? Maybe I'm just being picky.
The Mox/Danielson angle has been so cool, really love the promos and the build up. Moxley is on another level back, sober. Also, Jade has grown on me quite a bit. Yeah her matches aren't too clean, but I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt there. She's improving every week, she's got the goods for the long haul I think. Wardlow? Is he going to be a superstar? Is this a flash in the pan popularity? How can AEW manage to get both him and Keith Lee over in that ladder match at Revolution? Just fun random things I've been thinking about. Also- MJF got me hooked on using the word "Mid" for a lot of things for fun
1-Mar-22 4:05pm
#202 theJaw
Neat, some talking points. @akfa
So to be fair, the AEW World title, even on Jericho/Mox/Omega, never consistently "headlined" shows other than the PPVs. So when it shows up midway through a Dynamite, it's to be expected. Imo it's just that Hangman is the least "proven" of the 4 AEW World champs so far, you know? Like... he's the first "homegrown" guy to win that title... dude never even won the ROH World title. So their treatment of the AEW World title, which has never been as "spotlighty" as it could have been, sort of does a disservice to Page. He's still putting on incredible matches (better than any Jericho or Mox had as champ tbh), but they now need to shift to making the World title storylines THEEEEE storylines, you know?
Otherwise:
-Mox/Danielson is prob the most interesting thing on the show right now. I do like the Page/Cole (and all the Elite) stuff too. Mox is looking great out there.
-Jade rules. Took her a while, but she OWNS the spotlight when she's out there even if she's not as good in-ring as she's DEFINITELY going to be.
-Wardlow is well on his way for sure. The pop when he finally turns on MJF (Revolution?) is going to be insane. If he's just a flash in the pan right now, they can ignite that flash into a full-on superstar explosion if they play their cards right.
-As much as my gut reaction tells me otherwise, Wardlow doesn't need that ladder match win more than Keith Lee. Give Lee the "brass ring" and build him that way, get him back to the superstar status we all know he should be at right away. Meanwhile keep letting Wardlow simmer until the natural status he'll gain from the story they've been building with MJF.
-And MJF fudging rules haha
#202 theJaw
Neat, some talking points. @akfa
So to be fair, the AEW World title, even on Jericho/Mox/Omega, never consistently "headlined" shows other than the PPVs. So when it shows up midway through a Dynamite, it's to be expected. Imo it's just that Hangman is the least "proven" of the 4 AEW World champs so far, you know? Like... he's the first "homegrown" guy to win that title... dude never even won the ROH World title. So their treatment of the AEW World title, which has never been as "spotlighty" as it could have been, sort of does a disservice to Page. He's still putting on incredible matches (better than any Jericho or Mox had as champ tbh), but they now need to shift to making the World title storylines THEEEEE storylines, you know?
Otherwise:
-Mox/Danielson is prob the most interesting thing on the show right now. I do like the Page/Cole (and all the Elite) stuff too. Mox is looking great out there.
-Jade rules. Took her a while, but she OWNS the spotlight when she's out there even if she's not as good in-ring as she's DEFINITELY going to be.
-Wardlow is well on his way for sure. The pop when he finally turns on MJF (Revolution?) is going to be insane. If he's just a flash in the pan right now, they can ignite that flash into a full-on superstar explosion if they play their cards right.
-As much as my gut reaction tells me otherwise, Wardlow doesn't need that ladder match win more than Keith Lee. Give Lee the "brass ring" and build him that way, get him back to the superstar status we all know he should be at right away. Meanwhile keep letting Wardlow simmer until the natural status he'll gain from the story they've been building with MJF.
-And MJF fudging rules haha
1-Mar-22 4:07pm
#203 akfa
theJaw wrote:
Neat, some talking points. @akfa So to be fair, the AEW World title, even on Jericho/Mox/Omega, never consistently "headlined" shows other than the PPVs. So when it shows up midway through a Dynamite, it's to be expected. Imo it's just that Hangman is the least "proven" of the 4 AEW World champs so far, you know? Like... he's the first "homegrown" guy to win that title... dude never even won the ROH World title. So their treatment of the AEW World title, which has never been as "spotlighty" as it could have been, sort of does a disservice to Page. He's still putting on incredible matches (better than any Jericho or Mox had as champ tbh), but they now need to shift to making the World title storylines THEEEEE storylines, you know? Otherwise: -Mox/Danielson is prob the most interesting thing on the show right now. I do like the Page/Cole (and all the Elite) stuff too. Mox is looking great out there. -Jade rules. Took her a while, but she OWNS the spotlight when she's out there even if she's not as good in-ring as she's DEFINITELY going to be. -Wardlow is well on his way for sure. The pop when he finally turns on MJF (Revolution?) is going to be insane. If he's just a flash in the pan right now, they can ignite that flash into a full-on superstar explosion if they play their cards right. -As much as my gut reaction tells me otherwise, Wardlow doesn't need that ladder match win more than Keith Lee. Give Lee the "brass ring" and build him that way, get him back to the superstar status we all know he should be at right away. Meanwhile keep letting Wardlow simmer until the natural status he'll gain from the story they've been building with MJF. -And MJF fudging rules haha
Good points, I think I was just so used to seeing Kenny out there almost weekly, or at least it seemed that way. Not necessarily wrestling, but always popping up, walking out, whatever it is. Maybe I got spoiled by Kenny, but yeah it is good to share the TV time when the roster is jam packed. When Page is out there, he's on point.
Also- I think I saw a list of top 10 AEW matches of 2021, and Pac was in a good percentage of them lol, the dude can wrestle
Edit- and back on Wardlow, the BOO's when Spears told him NO MORE POWER BOMBS! was epic. Wardlow gets some of the biggest crowd reactions right now, totally deserves it too.
#203 akfa
theJaw wrote:
Neat, some talking points. @akfa So to be fair, the AEW World title, even on Jericho/Mox/Omega, never consistently "headlined" shows other than the PPVs. So when it shows up midway through a Dynamite, it's to be expected. Imo it's just that Hangman is the least "proven" of the 4 AEW World champs so far, you know? Like... he's the first "homegrown" guy to win that title... dude never even won the ROH World title. So their treatment of the AEW World title, which has never been as "spotlighty" as it could have been, sort of does a disservice to Page. He's still putting on incredible matches (better than any Jericho or Mox had as champ tbh), but they now need to shift to making the World title storylines THEEEEE storylines, you know? Otherwise: -Mox/Danielson is prob the most interesting thing on the show right now. I do like the Page/Cole (and all the Elite) stuff too. Mox is looking great out there. -Jade rules. Took her a while, but she OWNS the spotlight when she's out there even if she's not as good in-ring as she's DEFINITELY going to be. -Wardlow is well on his way for sure. The pop when he finally turns on MJF (Revolution?) is going to be insane. If he's just a flash in the pan right now, they can ignite that flash into a full-on superstar explosion if they play their cards right. -As much as my gut reaction tells me otherwise, Wardlow doesn't need that ladder match win more than Keith Lee. Give Lee the "brass ring" and build him that way, get him back to the superstar status we all know he should be at right away. Meanwhile keep letting Wardlow simmer until the natural status he'll gain from the story they've been building with MJF. -And MJF fudging rules haha
Good points, I think I was just so used to seeing Kenny out there almost weekly, or at least it seemed that way. Not necessarily wrestling, but always popping up, walking out, whatever it is. Maybe I got spoiled by Kenny, but yeah it is good to share the TV time when the roster is jam packed. When Page is out there, he's on point.
Also- I think I saw a list of top 10 AEW matches of 2021, and Pac was in a good percentage of them lol, the dude can wrestle
Edit- and back on Wardlow, the BOO's when Spears told him NO MORE POWER BOMBS! was epic. Wardlow gets some of the biggest crowd reactions right now, totally deserves it too.
1-Mar-22 5:09pm
#204 theJaw
@akfa Hell yah, they are teasing the crowd SO well with Wardlow right now. Spears is doing a lot to help that out too... every time he comes in to "steal the spotlight" and hit a dude Wardlow just destroyed with a chair is genius, with Wardlow's "dude wtf" reaction each time. It's going to be so satisfying to see him murder the Pinnacle lol
PAC should be world champ anywhere he goes. I honestly don't expect him to win the AEW title any time soon but if there's one dude I'd say is underrated in all of wrestling, it's PAC. I still remember the match I saw with him vs. Matt Sydal on a UK ROH card that fudgein blew me away. He's only gotten better.
Also, Page is on the show consistently, but admittedly they haven't made the title programs the centerpiece of the shows the way they did with Omega. On that note, I agree they need to step it up. Page is legit one of the top 10 in the world right now, and they need to show that off more. Going back to my own experiences, I watched Adam Page vs. Frankie Kazarian in a BRUTAL strap match live when ROH came to my area for Best in the World 2017 (also witnessed Cody win the ROH title that night), and my god, Page was untouchable on that card. He is such a great wrestler and AEW did great with him up to this point, and is still doing right by him, but they definitely do need to add a little extra "oomph" to his reign. I think this feud with Cole is designed to do exactly that.
#204 theJaw
@akfa Hell yah, they are teasing the crowd SO well with Wardlow right now. Spears is doing a lot to help that out too... every time he comes in to "steal the spotlight" and hit a dude Wardlow just destroyed with a chair is genius, with Wardlow's "dude wtf" reaction each time. It's going to be so satisfying to see him murder the Pinnacle lol
PAC should be world champ anywhere he goes. I honestly don't expect him to win the AEW title any time soon but if there's one dude I'd say is underrated in all of wrestling, it's PAC. I still remember the match I saw with him vs. Matt Sydal on a UK ROH card that fudgein blew me away. He's only gotten better.
Also, Page is on the show consistently, but admittedly they haven't made the title programs the centerpiece of the shows the way they did with Omega. On that note, I agree they need to step it up. Page is legit one of the top 10 in the world right now, and they need to show that off more. Going back to my own experiences, I watched Adam Page vs. Frankie Kazarian in a BRUTAL strap match live when ROH came to my area for Best in the World 2017 (also witnessed Cody win the ROH title that night), and my god, Page was untouchable on that card. He is such a great wrestler and AEW did great with him up to this point, and is still doing right by him, but they definitely do need to add a little extra "oomph" to his reign. I think this feud with Cole is designed to do exactly that.
2-Mar-22 8:09pm
#206 PizzaTheHutt
Tony "Big Money" Khan has purchased Ring of Honor
https://twitter.com/...
#206 PizzaTheHutt
Tony "Big Money" Khan has purchased Ring of Honor
https://twitter.com/...
2-Mar-22 8:09pm
#207 theJaw
Tony Khan just opened Dynamite by announcing he now owns Ring of Honor.
Not entirely sure what that means for ROH moving forward but I am very gosh darn hopeful. That rules.
#207 theJaw
Tony Khan just opened Dynamite by announcing he now owns Ring of Honor.
Not entirely sure what that means for ROH moving forward but I am very gosh darn hopeful. That rules.
2-Mar-22 8:11pm
#208 theJaw
lol @PizzaTheHutt just seeing your post now.
I feel like ROH was probably "Moderate Money" as opposed to "big" but I feel ya haha. Didn't expect that announcement.
#208 theJaw
lol @PizzaTheHutt just seeing your post now.
I feel like ROH was probably "Moderate Money" as opposed to "big" but I feel ya haha. Didn't expect that announcement.
3-Mar-22 2:17pm
#209 PizzaTheHutt
Vince on The Pat McAfee show today (slight delay, Vince is still on his way to the studio). I have a feeling it ends in a blowup, because none of Vince's yes men can tell him Adam Cole already did that.
https://www.youtube....
#209 PizzaTheHutt
Vince on The Pat McAfee show today (slight delay, Vince is still on his way to the studio). I have a feeling it ends in a blowup, because none of Vince's yes men can tell him Adam Cole already did that.
https://www.youtube....
3-Mar-22 2:25pm
#210 theJaw
lol yah. Not watching but this is likely gonna lead toward a Mania angle... just hope they give Vince a proxy like Austin Theory or something. McMahon should 100% not be wrestling in 2022.
#210 theJaw
lol yah. Not watching but this is likely gonna lead toward a Mania angle... just hope they give Vince a proxy like Austin Theory or something. McMahon should 100% not be wrestling in 2022.
3-Mar-22 2:34pm
#211 theJaw
Also WWE terminated its agreement with its Russian broadcaster today. I'd like to praise this decision, but it's likely just due to the US sanctions. If Vince gave a fudge about injustices, he wouldn't be accepting money from a government who has been waging war with Yemen for like 7 years.
Still, it's the correct move. Unfortunately, the sect of the Russian population who believe nothing is the matter because their government control the narrative will likely start to figure crap out a lot quicker when they realize the rest of the planet is just about done doing business with Russia at the moment.
#211 theJaw
Also WWE terminated its agreement with its Russian broadcaster today. I'd like to praise this decision, but it's likely just due to the US sanctions. If Vince gave a fudge about injustices, he wouldn't be accepting money from a government who has been waging war with Yemen for like 7 years.
Still, it's the correct move. Unfortunately, the sect of the Russian population who believe nothing is the matter because their government control the narrative will likely start to figure crap out a lot quicker when they realize the rest of the planet is just about done doing business with Russia at the moment.
3-Mar-22 3:15pm
#212 PizzaTheHutt
Pat was offered a match at WrestleMania against "a worthy opponent".
It's not easy to find the right volume to listen to this at. Vince talks too low and Pat talks too loud.
#212 PizzaTheHutt
Pat was offered a match at WrestleMania against "a worthy opponent".
It's not easy to find the right volume to listen to this at. Vince talks too low and Pat talks too loud.
3-Mar-22 10:26pm
#213 theJaw
Some buzz going around that Cody Rhodes is going to spearhead ROH, some assuming as the "figurehead" or as just one of the top guys as presented on TV.
If so, not only could they pull off the "two brands blatantly owned by the same entity" situation that WWE originally wanted when they acquired WCW (that then ultimately turned into Raw vs Smackdown), but they would have also pulled off one of the most wild works of all time.
Apparently internal sources at WWE leaked that up until Dynamite aired, they believed Tony Khan had only bought a Japanese tape library that wasn't NJPW, and that they were caught off guard when the announcement was made. There have been some claims lately that WWE wanted the ROH tape library to help create documentaries for stars like Rollins, Owens, Zayn, etc. If AEW/ROH/Khan orchestrated this whole Cody Rhodes thing as a work, and have it tie into the ROH situation... that'd be legendary.
This is just stuff that I've seen theorized about with Sean Ross Sapp sort of playing into it with a cryptic tweet, so who knows what the actual plan is... but this would be wild.
#213 theJaw
Some buzz going around that Cody Rhodes is going to spearhead ROH, some assuming as the "figurehead" or as just one of the top guys as presented on TV.
If so, not only could they pull off the "two brands blatantly owned by the same entity" situation that WWE originally wanted when they acquired WCW (that then ultimately turned into Raw vs Smackdown), but they would have also pulled off one of the most wild works of all time.
Apparently internal sources at WWE leaked that up until Dynamite aired, they believed Tony Khan had only bought a Japanese tape library that wasn't NJPW, and that they were caught off guard when the announcement was made. There have been some claims lately that WWE wanted the ROH tape library to help create documentaries for stars like Rollins, Owens, Zayn, etc. If AEW/ROH/Khan orchestrated this whole Cody Rhodes thing as a work, and have it tie into the ROH situation... that'd be legendary.
This is just stuff that I've seen theorized about with Sean Ross Sapp sort of playing into it with a cryptic tweet, so who knows what the actual plan is... but this would be wild.
4-Mar-22 1:26pm
#214 PizzaTheHutt
Yeah, I read Cody and possibly Regal being put in charge of ROH and that it'd be used almost like AEW's version of NXT or something like that. I wonder if they will take advantage of the Honor Club service
#214 PizzaTheHutt
Yeah, I read Cody and possibly Regal being put in charge of ROH and that it'd be used almost like AEW's version of NXT or something like that. I wonder if they will take advantage of the Honor Club service
4-Mar-22 1:31pm
#215 PizzaTheHutt
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#215 PizzaTheHutt
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6-Mar-22 4:55pm
#218 PizzaTheHutt
I'll likely only be able to catch the first hour, but if anything really good/unexpected happens I'll probably download it after.
#218 PizzaTheHutt
I'll likely only be able to catch the first hour, but if anything really good/unexpected happens I'll probably download it after.
6-Mar-22 4:57pm
#219 PizzaTheHutt
Was browsing through YouTube last night and this popped up in my recommendations. I had never heard of this game before. Even with how bad it looks, I still kind of want to play it just to say I did.
https://www.youtube....
#219 PizzaTheHutt
Was browsing through YouTube last night and this popped up in my recommendations. I had never heard of this game before. Even with how bad it looks, I still kind of want to play it just to say I did.
https://www.youtube....
6-Mar-22 5:41pm
#220 theJaw
@PizzaTheHutt check out this book “Wrestling with Pixels”. I dunno if the color version is available in print anymore (it was a kickstarter) but it is available digitally/on Kindle.
There are tons of games I’ve never heard of in there, pretty fun read.
https://www.amazon.c...
#220 theJaw
@PizzaTheHutt check out this book “Wrestling with Pixels”. I dunno if the color version is available in print anymore (it was a kickstarter) but it is available digitally/on Kindle.
There are tons of games I’ve never heard of in there, pretty fun read.
https://www.amazon.c...
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