The Comics & Graphic Novels Thread
20-May-16 4:01pm
#1 theJaw
There are a lot of folks here who are comic fans. I'm not 100% sure who reads the comics or are just fans of the films, but for the most part there seems to be some pretty knowledgeable people here when it comes to the funny books. Figured this thread would work nicely for the overall discussion.
Post what you're reading too!
PREACHER Book Three
Select Reviews:
Once in a while I'll actually post a review to the "What I'm Reading" book. Here they are in "nsfw" tags due to length but, I assure you, they're safe for work
We Stand On Guard - 6.5/10:
Plowed through this in like an hour or less. Pretty good read and the art is magnificent, but it wasn't Brian K. Vaughan's best work by any means. He seems to work better in the serialized story genre, which this technically was, but it was a planned 6-issue miniseries, so it read more like a film in comic form. His character work is still on key, but in the limited story-space, some of them kind of fizzle out as opposed to have a satisfying end to their arc. And then there are some characters who don't fizzle out, but whose fates still leave a lot to be desired. Our main character is among that list.
Regardless, the overall story was strong enough and the concept of portraying the US' foreign policy as terrorism in a hypothetical 100-year time-jump was as interesting as it was bold - if a little awkward to read, being an American and all. Though it's easy enough to admit that this sort of wartime scenario wouldn't be difficult to imagine breaking out the exact way it does in this story, if the real-life situations mirrored the fantasy of this book. Which is a scary thought - as I'm assuming was the point: if we start warring as opposed to discussing over everything (water being the culprit here), where does it end?
So it was an interesting concept with extraordinary art, nearly perfect characterizations and some very memorable scenes, but the end was a bit of a disappointment and not many character arcs ended in any interesting way. I feel like this would have benefited if it were an on-going that ended after 2 or 3 years. It could have at least used 2 or 3 more issues to give proper time to all the characters. It was a cool concept, but a rare flub from Vaughan when it comes to a proper ending.
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Paper Girls: Volume 1 - 8.5/10:
I had already read the first 2 issues of Paper Girls before snagging the TPB, so the rest of the book was a breeze. This is another super strong story by Brian K Vaughan (LOST, Y The Last Man, Saga, Ex Machina, etc). It's very reminiscent of the nostalgic 80's "coming of age" movies - just with a sci-fi twist to keep it from straying too close. It's like a mix of Stand By Me, Gunther & The Paper Brigade, E.T. and, for a more modern comparison, the J.J. Abrams film Super 8. 4 bike-riding girls who deliver newspapers wake up early the morning after Halloween to find the town is in a real odd state. It's a plot that eventually delves into time travel, high-concept time wars and monster-ridden landscapes - but it does so in a way that is immediately reminiscent of the straight-forward coming of age stories we loved as kids. There are lots of pop-culture references - including one big one that actually acts as a really smart plot device to tease why things are going so crazy. This volume leaves you with the possible understanding of what drove certain characters to do what they did, while also not really over-indulging us with reveal after reveal.
I'd say definitely give it a shot if you're interested in that sort of thing. I can't wait until the next batch of issues is released.
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Absolute Batman Incorporated by Grant Morrison - 8.5/10:
Firstly, this hardcover is gorgeous. It comes in a thick slipcover and the book itself is great quality. The art looks great on the bigger pages, and this book really is super big. I'm about two thirds done at this point and I've already read the 8 issues from the New 52, but the whole epic has just been a great read through. The ending is one I can look forward to as I read like when watching a favorite movie. This was Morrison's brain child and it ran alongside his now legendary 7-year run on Batman. While some of that run lacked the quality of a top notch Morrison story, Batman Incorporated does not. While the idea of a franchised international bat-team, especially one run by Bruce Wayne, is kind of a contrived premise, Morrison is able to work little bits of Batman's past and spin the folks he'd met over the years (even the obscure ones) into the tale to make it something really worth checking out.
I dug the first half of the book just fine - but it was mostly all exposition issues for what was to come. I know Morrison spread this series out to run alongside the rest of his run, but the early chapters really seem to drag a bit. Probably wouldn't have been my favorite Bat-title if I were subscribed. While at the same time, those issues re-establish the bits of Batman's mythos that you'll need to know for this story via mostly self-contained issues featuring small-time villains and small-time allies alike. Once you get past the set-up, the book really gets incredibly good. It pays off the slower earlier issues in the best ways, connecting the dots between each early chapter. The "New 52" era issues are the best however, as this story's ending is one of the better pulled-off endings I've seen in recent years, It's very satisfying despite a tragedy or two along the way.
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Inhumans by Paul Jenkins & Jae Lee - 9/10:
This is one of my all-time favorite superhero stories ever written. It's a very cinematic self-contained story that ran for, I believe, 12 issues. It's some of the best character work a Marvel team-up book has ever had. Strong lead characters, a very memorable villain and a fascinating plot makes this one worth picking up again every once in a while. Think this will be my 3rd or 4th read-through of it, but it's always a great time. This is also the book that my avatar is inspired by. It's the "Relax" narration panel from this book - advice Black Bolt (the Inhumans' king) would give his people if he could speak without risking his voice killing everyone around him. It's advice I constantly try to remember.
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The Walking Dead Compendium Vol. 1 - 7/10
The Walking Dead Compendium Vol. 2 - 8.5/10
So I put a halt to my Walking Dead comic marathon that I started in time for the new season in October. I plowed through the first 2 Compendiums but with the holidays, so many new books that I was eager to read fell into my lap. So while I do intend on starting the Volume 3 back up in February to coincide with the return of Season 7 of the TV show, I figured I'd move this out of the "What I'm Reading Now" section. My review: It's real good. About 2/3 of Volume 1 are very hard to read at times due to the characters talking far too much, over-explaining situations and sometimes long-monologuing (not a word) about the same events in 2 or 3 different scenes. However about halfway through the Prison arc, when the Governor becomes a pivotal character, the series really hit its stride. Volume 2 is non-stop great, featuring many of the most memorable moments from the comics. I am indeed looking forward to Compendium Vol. 3 when the mood strikes, because that's where the series hits "legendary" status in my eyes.
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Kingdom Come - 7/10
This was a real fun story with a neat concept that kind of got muddled with the art. While the artist has done great work on very similar stories, this one featured a few panels that were hard to follow. I'm not sure if it was lazy art or the script wasn't the easiest to follow, but some things got lost in translation throughout. Regardless it was very cool to see older, grizzled versions of the golden age superheroes pulled out of retirement to deal with the "new generation" of heroes who were fine with casualties and chaos anytime they fought. This story also pulled off yet another new take on the Superman/Batman relationship that pays off real dramatically toward the end. All in all, a great Secret Santa gift and a fun story worth the read.
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Paper Girls: Volume 2 - 8/10
This was a great follow up to Volume 1 even if the 80's setting was sorely missed. Our characters find themselves in modern day and on a journey to find their friend after being chased by some humans from the far future with a technology-rooted culture. This series keeps things intriguing by having the main character Erin interact with her 2016-self and the dynamic there is a highlight of the book. There is some very witty banter between the Erins. Some twists (both tragic and very interesting) are thrown along the way - but this is a series that should be read as spoiler-free as possible. It has as satisfying of a cliffhanger as Volume 1, so I'm very much looking forward to Volume 3.
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Redwall: The Graphic Novel - 7.5/10
While I've only ever read a couple of the Redwall novels, I've always been fascinated by the series and its lore. I'd never read the first novel so the fact that it was in graphic novel form really enticed me. I was a little disappointed in the lack of color, as the novels always painted the settings with lush colors, but I was able to look past it for the memorable characters and villains.. Kluny the Scourge is classic. However some of the art, especially when it came to the Abbey Mice, was too similar. It was a little difficult to tell the main characters apart. This gets a bump up in points because while the first half of the book plays as a fantasy-by-numbers book starring animal characters, it eventually becomes a story about a legendary knight being reborn in an abbey monk. It was a cool little plot twist that, while telegraphed, I really didn't see coming. It makes me want to read the Martin the Warrior novel soon.
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Thor by Jason Aaron & Russell Dauterman - 9/10
Really great stuff from this creative team. Having not kept up with the Thor comics the past few years (much longer actually), I got this for Christmas. I have to say, I was blown away by what I read. A great mystery (that isn't a mystery anymore but for me it was) of who IS the new Thor, and Odinson (the OG male Thor) gets a real nice new complexity to his character as the "Unworthy Thor." It seems despite the MCU, Thor's comic line has been able to avoid the mainstream issues that other Marvel comics have lately. This book made me rush to snag the next couple books from the duo: Battleworld: Thors & The Mighty Thor Vol.1 and it also reminded me to check out Journey Into Mystery by Kieron Gillen Vol. 1.
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Batman: The Court of Owls - 8/10
Batman: The City of Owls - 7/10
Batman: Death of the Family - 6/10
The Court of Owls - Court is a classic Batman story. It features new lore for the city of Gotham (something Snyder is great at), a new group of villains that were as intriguing as they were creepy, and a new threat that really made Batman seem like he was in an uphill battle. Hell, it even featured a climactic issue taking place in a giant death maze. Batman grew as a character, thinking he knew about Gotham better than anyone only to find out he can still learn new secrets. It also ended with a great cliffhanger if you were reading solely via trade paperback. It's too bad Snyder had a little trouble sticking the dismount.
The City of Owls - This story starts up with the fun and memorable "Night of Owls" issue that features the Court's army of Talons (undead assassins) laying siege on Gotham and, most notably, Wayne Manor. It was a fun start to what would end up being an overly-telegraphed ending to what was set up in "Court of Owls." It also featured a reveal that left a bit to be desired - as it left a lot of ambiguity on the table. Which would have been a little more acceptable if the character involved played a larger role in Snyder's Batman, but having not appeared since, it kind of puts a damper on what could have been a little more menacing of an ending.
Death of the Family - This is the story that got me back into collecting - and reading it without all the hype, it's really not that special. Nowhere near a top Joker story by any means. It featured a slasher-film version of Joker, not just in appearance (with his strapped on face-skin that had been removed a few months earlier) but also in character mechanics. Joker killed people a little too easily during the first issues, including snapping a bunch of cops necks in the dark somehow and drowning a bunch of rich kids. Which was the point, admittedly - to have an even more unhinged Joker. But as the story progressed it fell into cliche territory, with a bunch of well-tread Batman tropes: Joker trying to convince Batman he's weak due to the Bat-family, Batman and Nightwing arguing, Joker hosting a villain-fest for Batman (my #1 least favorite plot device in a Batman story is when the writer piles a bunch of high-profile villains into one issue), and Joker feeling some sort of misplaced "love" for Batman. And then there's the whole question of if the Joker knows who they all are or not. These are all themes I can get behind, but they've been presented far more accurately in better Joker stories - and not all crammed into 5 or 6 issues. There are some good moments in this story, with the highlight being the climactic Batcave chase that capped off the last issue, but that just wasn't enough to save the whole convoluted, almost try-hard story from being anything more than mediocre. This was a disappointment because Snyder had written one of the most memorable Joker scenes in modern Batman stories (in my opinion) just a few years earlier during his "Black Mirror" story. It was short and sweet and just perfect. His Joker in this story spoke in too many monologues about the same thing and just wasn't too funny. Capullo's art fudging ruled throughout all these books though.
However, Snyder took a much better whack at a Joker story with "Endgame," which is one of my favorite modern Joker stories, but that's not for another few volumes. Thankfully Snyder picked up his slack for the New 52 Batman origin which he told in epic fashion over the next 2 volumes. His run remained fun from that point on, and these books were still fun to read, but aside from "Court," the other ones are just average.
From Hell by Alan Moore - 7.5/10
After finally getting around to reading this book after getting it for Christmas 2 years ago, I can say it was worth the wait. Or has been. This book is a (fictionalized) investigation of the Jack the Ripper murders of the 1800's that suggests the string of homicides was an elaborate conspiracy pulled off by the Royal Family in order to keep the news of the Prince having an illegitimate child with a shopkeeper. This is based off a real theory but it has been debunked many times, even Moore himself. However, it's an interesting tale of what could have been all the same, while still managing to give an extremely accurate portrayal of the heinous acts and the aftermath they had on London at the time. The story of Sir William Gull is certainly intriguing to say the least.
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Uzumaki: Volume 1 - 7/10
Admittedly, I'm not the biggest manga reader - but I'm always willing to give interesting premises a shot. Dorohedoro Volume 1 is on deck, but I've been feeling a bit of a horror vibe lately and have been wanting to read this. Snagging it in a $15 lot with Revival Vol 1, Outcast Vol 1 and Wytches by Scott Snyder was just a bonus. Anyhow, this was a sort of starkly fun tale about a girl who lives in a town that's cursed by spirals. The shape. This is only Volume 1, so I'm not sure what the origin of these spirals are yet (if it's ever even revealed). This left me a little in the dark, but I decided to just go with it.
There were a few genuinely creepy moments in this one, but quite a few goofy moments that just didn't work for me. One example of something creepy was when two star-crossed lovers had somehow discovered a way to spiral into each other and opted for a life as intertwined spirals over their families keeping them apart. The imagery here, and at an earlier part of the book including a spiral-corpse, really hit home. One example of too goofy, however, was the two-girl showdown decided by who could get more attention based on the whacky spirals in their hair.
Unfortunately that second example was the story that ended Volume 1 so it kind of left off on an air fart, but the rest of the book has at least persuaded me to eventually check out Volume 2.
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Revival: Volume 1 - 7.5/10
I went into Revival completely in the dark and was pleasantly surprised. It was a quick read (a little too quick to be honest) but there were some really memorable characters. Many creepy moments too, and these first 5 issues really open up a few mysteries that I imagine the series tackles further down the road. Like Uzumaki, this first volume has gotten me interested in checking out volume 2.
There are some real questions presented about characters in this story that make me sort of anxious to read more, but these didn't really come until the last 2 issues. The first 3 were the standard "dead are coming back and the town doesn't know how to deal with it" situations with underlying tones of what was to come. My favorite aspect of the comic was the dynamic between a psychopath who claims to have met the devil and devotes his life to exercising demons by any fudgeed up means necessary, and a "revived" main character named Em who he claims is the devil incarnate. It's interesting because she definitely does some semi-dastardly things, and her actions within this first volume could easily fit the "devil in disguise" routine. The "demon" had a neat, simple and disturbing design too so I'm interested what more the series does with these entities moving forward.
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Wytches by Scott Snyder - 8/10
Real creepy, atmospheric tale about a girl who was "pledged" to the ancient Wytches that haunt a New Hampshire town. Great use of foreshadowing in this one, and the characters really worked. There is some clunky dialogue and silly character moments but otherwise, they all stand up.
I love the study of witches in general that this book features. Lots of lore - the "wytches" are portrayed as genetically "evolved" beings whose magic can grant anyone who pledges somebody to them their wildest dreams. They mark the portal to their world with ginger - thus the old "witches live in a gingerbread house" schtick. It's real fun the way Snyder presents the creatures as grounded in some sort of reality that is able to explain away a bunch of real-life myths about witches.
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Saga: Deluxe Edition Volume 1 - 10/10
Saga: Deluxe Edition Volume 2 - 10/10
Saga Volume 7: The War for Phang - 7.5/10
Image just dropped the Deluxe Edition Volume 2, so I re-read Deluxe Edition Volume 1 in anticipation. Plowed through both within a day or two, and then read where the story left off with the trade-paperback for Saga Volume 7, dubbed "The War for Phang". My "Phang" write-up contains spoilers, so beware.
The first book is an exercise in world-building, character development and story-telling. There's so much to this story that it's hard to want to type about it, but it's a fantasy epic that spans different planets over the course of one child, Hazel's life. She narrates it as we, the reader, get to watch her parents (two former soldiers of warring homeworlds) sacrifice everything to keep her hidden. Being a "hybrid" of two races, she is a highly sought-after person when news breaks of her existence.
The second book is more of the same - but better, if possible. Lots of incredible visuals, the characters are taken in directions that are genuinely surprising and the story progresses at exactly the right pace. Brian K Vaughn has a way of creating very personal moments on an epic sci-fi backdrop. This book just furthers the fun of the story, even if some major gore and violence occurs along the way. It's always done in a surprising and honestly interesting way.
Volume 7: The War for Phang was a noticeable step down in my opinion, but still a strong entry into the series compared to most comics. My issue with this portion of the story was its overly-bleak atmosphere. Saga can absolutely get bleak and tragic at times, but most of the time there is another character's plot to add some levity or color. In "The War for Phang", just about all the characters are brought to the lowest we've ever seen them. Some of the tragic nature seems a little forced, to be honest. One moment when a drugged out Prince Robot insinuates that he is either going to rape Alana (Hazel's mother) or kill himself was a little out-of-nowhere considering their relationship up to that point. Then the big twist in the last issue was fittingly tragic, but just seemed like another tack in this overly-bleak tale. There was also a 2-headed villain introduced in this batch of issues that, for the first time since Saga started, left me underwhelmed with the design of a character. And what makes that character worse, is that they (two heads) leave devastating effects in their wake for our main characters - but, having been killed at the end, ultimately won't play a huge part going forward. It felt a little too quick - to bring our characters so far low only to have the threat eliminated quickly, like they just needed an excuse to torture the characters.
I'm hoping all this leads to some real good character development in the issues to come ("Phang" was about 50/50 in that department) or else this volume will always sort of stick out as needlessly bleak portion of the story.
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#1 theJaw
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There are a lot of folks here who are comic fans. I'm not 100% sure who reads the comics or are just fans of the films, but for the most part there seems to be some pretty knowledgeable people here when it comes to the funny books. Figured this thread would work nicely for the overall discussion.
Post what you're reading too!
What I'm Reading:
PREACHER Book Three
Select Reviews:
Once in a while I'll actually post a review to the "What I'm Reading" book. Here they are in "nsfw" tags due to length but, I assure you, they're safe for work
We Stand On Guard - 6.5/10:
Plowed through this in like an hour or less. Pretty good read and the art is magnificent, but it wasn't Brian K. Vaughan's best work by any means. He seems to work better in the serialized story genre, which this technically was, but it was a planned 6-issue miniseries, so it read more like a film in comic form. His character work is still on key, but in the limited story-space, some of them kind of fizzle out as opposed to have a satisfying end to their arc. And then there are some characters who don't fizzle out, but whose fates still leave a lot to be desired. Our main character is among that list.
Regardless, the overall story was strong enough and the concept of portraying the US' foreign policy as terrorism in a hypothetical 100-year time-jump was as interesting as it was bold - if a little awkward to read, being an American and all. Though it's easy enough to admit that this sort of wartime scenario wouldn't be difficult to imagine breaking out the exact way it does in this story, if the real-life situations mirrored the fantasy of this book. Which is a scary thought - as I'm assuming was the point: if we start warring as opposed to discussing over everything (water being the culprit here), where does it end?
So it was an interesting concept with extraordinary art, nearly perfect characterizations and some very memorable scenes, but the end was a bit of a disappointment and not many character arcs ended in any interesting way. I feel like this would have benefited if it were an on-going that ended after 2 or 3 years. It could have at least used 2 or 3 more issues to give proper time to all the characters. It was a cool concept, but a rare flub from Vaughan when it comes to a proper ending.
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Paper Girls: Volume 1 - 8.5/10:
I had already read the first 2 issues of Paper Girls before snagging the TPB, so the rest of the book was a breeze. This is another super strong story by Brian K Vaughan (LOST, Y The Last Man, Saga, Ex Machina, etc). It's very reminiscent of the nostalgic 80's "coming of age" movies - just with a sci-fi twist to keep it from straying too close. It's like a mix of Stand By Me, Gunther & The Paper Brigade, E.T. and, for a more modern comparison, the J.J. Abrams film Super 8. 4 bike-riding girls who deliver newspapers wake up early the morning after Halloween to find the town is in a real odd state. It's a plot that eventually delves into time travel, high-concept time wars and monster-ridden landscapes - but it does so in a way that is immediately reminiscent of the straight-forward coming of age stories we loved as kids. There are lots of pop-culture references - including one big one that actually acts as a really smart plot device to tease why things are going so crazy. This volume leaves you with the possible understanding of what drove certain characters to do what they did, while also not really over-indulging us with reveal after reveal.
I'd say definitely give it a shot if you're interested in that sort of thing. I can't wait until the next batch of issues is released.
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Absolute Batman Incorporated by Grant Morrison - 8.5/10:
Firstly, this hardcover is gorgeous. It comes in a thick slipcover and the book itself is great quality. The art looks great on the bigger pages, and this book really is super big. I'm about two thirds done at this point and I've already read the 8 issues from the New 52, but the whole epic has just been a great read through. The ending is one I can look forward to as I read like when watching a favorite movie. This was Morrison's brain child and it ran alongside his now legendary 7-year run on Batman. While some of that run lacked the quality of a top notch Morrison story, Batman Incorporated does not. While the idea of a franchised international bat-team, especially one run by Bruce Wayne, is kind of a contrived premise, Morrison is able to work little bits of Batman's past and spin the folks he'd met over the years (even the obscure ones) into the tale to make it something really worth checking out.
I dug the first half of the book just fine - but it was mostly all exposition issues for what was to come. I know Morrison spread this series out to run alongside the rest of his run, but the early chapters really seem to drag a bit. Probably wouldn't have been my favorite Bat-title if I were subscribed. While at the same time, those issues re-establish the bits of Batman's mythos that you'll need to know for this story via mostly self-contained issues featuring small-time villains and small-time allies alike. Once you get past the set-up, the book really gets incredibly good. It pays off the slower earlier issues in the best ways, connecting the dots between each early chapter. The "New 52" era issues are the best however, as this story's ending is one of the better pulled-off endings I've seen in recent years, It's very satisfying despite a tragedy or two along the way.
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Inhumans by Paul Jenkins & Jae Lee - 9/10:
This is one of my all-time favorite superhero stories ever written. It's a very cinematic self-contained story that ran for, I believe, 12 issues. It's some of the best character work a Marvel team-up book has ever had. Strong lead characters, a very memorable villain and a fascinating plot makes this one worth picking up again every once in a while. Think this will be my 3rd or 4th read-through of it, but it's always a great time. This is also the book that my avatar is inspired by. It's the "Relax" narration panel from this book - advice Black Bolt (the Inhumans' king) would give his people if he could speak without risking his voice killing everyone around him. It's advice I constantly try to remember.
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The Walking Dead Compendium Vol. 1 - 7/10
The Walking Dead Compendium Vol. 2 - 8.5/10
So I put a halt to my Walking Dead comic marathon that I started in time for the new season in October. I plowed through the first 2 Compendiums but with the holidays, so many new books that I was eager to read fell into my lap. So while I do intend on starting the Volume 3 back up in February to coincide with the return of Season 7 of the TV show, I figured I'd move this out of the "What I'm Reading Now" section. My review: It's real good. About 2/3 of Volume 1 are very hard to read at times due to the characters talking far too much, over-explaining situations and sometimes long-monologuing (not a word) about the same events in 2 or 3 different scenes. However about halfway through the Prison arc, when the Governor becomes a pivotal character, the series really hit its stride. Volume 2 is non-stop great, featuring many of the most memorable moments from the comics. I am indeed looking forward to Compendium Vol. 3 when the mood strikes, because that's where the series hits "legendary" status in my eyes.
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Kingdom Come - 7/10
This was a real fun story with a neat concept that kind of got muddled with the art. While the artist has done great work on very similar stories, this one featured a few panels that were hard to follow. I'm not sure if it was lazy art or the script wasn't the easiest to follow, but some things got lost in translation throughout. Regardless it was very cool to see older, grizzled versions of the golden age superheroes pulled out of retirement to deal with the "new generation" of heroes who were fine with casualties and chaos anytime they fought. This story also pulled off yet another new take on the Superman/Batman relationship that pays off real dramatically toward the end. All in all, a great Secret Santa gift and a fun story worth the read.
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Paper Girls: Volume 2 - 8/10
This was a great follow up to Volume 1 even if the 80's setting was sorely missed. Our characters find themselves in modern day and on a journey to find their friend after being chased by some humans from the far future with a technology-rooted culture. This series keeps things intriguing by having the main character Erin interact with her 2016-self and the dynamic there is a highlight of the book. There is some very witty banter between the Erins. Some twists (both tragic and very interesting) are thrown along the way - but this is a series that should be read as spoiler-free as possible. It has as satisfying of a cliffhanger as Volume 1, so I'm very much looking forward to Volume 3.
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Redwall: The Graphic Novel - 7.5/10
While I've only ever read a couple of the Redwall novels, I've always been fascinated by the series and its lore. I'd never read the first novel so the fact that it was in graphic novel form really enticed me. I was a little disappointed in the lack of color, as the novels always painted the settings with lush colors, but I was able to look past it for the memorable characters and villains.. Kluny the Scourge is classic. However some of the art, especially when it came to the Abbey Mice, was too similar. It was a little difficult to tell the main characters apart. This gets a bump up in points because while the first half of the book plays as a fantasy-by-numbers book starring animal characters, it eventually becomes a story about a legendary knight being reborn in an abbey monk. It was a cool little plot twist that, while telegraphed, I really didn't see coming. It makes me want to read the Martin the Warrior novel soon.
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Thor by Jason Aaron & Russell Dauterman - 9/10
Really great stuff from this creative team. Having not kept up with the Thor comics the past few years (much longer actually), I got this for Christmas. I have to say, I was blown away by what I read. A great mystery (that isn't a mystery anymore but for me it was) of who IS the new Thor, and Odinson (the OG male Thor) gets a real nice new complexity to his character as the "Unworthy Thor." It seems despite the MCU, Thor's comic line has been able to avoid the mainstream issues that other Marvel comics have lately. This book made me rush to snag the next couple books from the duo: Battleworld: Thors & The Mighty Thor Vol.1 and it also reminded me to check out Journey Into Mystery by Kieron Gillen Vol. 1.
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Batman: The Court of Owls - 8/10
Batman: The City of Owls - 7/10
Batman: Death of the Family - 6/10
The Court of Owls - Court is a classic Batman story. It features new lore for the city of Gotham (something Snyder is great at), a new group of villains that were as intriguing as they were creepy, and a new threat that really made Batman seem like he was in an uphill battle. Hell, it even featured a climactic issue taking place in a giant death maze. Batman grew as a character, thinking he knew about Gotham better than anyone only to find out he can still learn new secrets. It also ended with a great cliffhanger if you were reading solely via trade paperback. It's too bad Snyder had a little trouble sticking the dismount.
The City of Owls - This story starts up with the fun and memorable "Night of Owls" issue that features the Court's army of Talons (undead assassins) laying siege on Gotham and, most notably, Wayne Manor. It was a fun start to what would end up being an overly-telegraphed ending to what was set up in "Court of Owls." It also featured a reveal that left a bit to be desired - as it left a lot of ambiguity on the table. Which would have been a little more acceptable if the character involved played a larger role in Snyder's Batman, but having not appeared since, it kind of puts a damper on what could have been a little more menacing of an ending.
Death of the Family - This is the story that got me back into collecting - and reading it without all the hype, it's really not that special. Nowhere near a top Joker story by any means. It featured a slasher-film version of Joker, not just in appearance (with his strapped on face-skin that had been removed a few months earlier) but also in character mechanics. Joker killed people a little too easily during the first issues, including snapping a bunch of cops necks in the dark somehow and drowning a bunch of rich kids. Which was the point, admittedly - to have an even more unhinged Joker. But as the story progressed it fell into cliche territory, with a bunch of well-tread Batman tropes: Joker trying to convince Batman he's weak due to the Bat-family, Batman and Nightwing arguing, Joker hosting a villain-fest for Batman (my #1 least favorite plot device in a Batman story is when the writer piles a bunch of high-profile villains into one issue), and Joker feeling some sort of misplaced "love" for Batman. And then there's the whole question of if the Joker knows who they all are or not. These are all themes I can get behind, but they've been presented far more accurately in better Joker stories - and not all crammed into 5 or 6 issues. There are some good moments in this story, with the highlight being the climactic Batcave chase that capped off the last issue, but that just wasn't enough to save the whole convoluted, almost try-hard story from being anything more than mediocre. This was a disappointment because Snyder had written one of the most memorable Joker scenes in modern Batman stories (in my opinion) just a few years earlier during his "Black Mirror" story. It was short and sweet and just perfect. His Joker in this story spoke in too many monologues about the same thing and just wasn't too funny. Capullo's art fudging ruled throughout all these books though.
However, Snyder took a much better whack at a Joker story with "Endgame," which is one of my favorite modern Joker stories, but that's not for another few volumes. Thankfully Snyder picked up his slack for the New 52 Batman origin which he told in epic fashion over the next 2 volumes. His run remained fun from that point on, and these books were still fun to read, but aside from "Court," the other ones are just average.
From Hell by Alan Moore - 7.5/10
After finally getting around to reading this book after getting it for Christmas 2 years ago, I can say it was worth the wait. Or has been. This book is a (fictionalized) investigation of the Jack the Ripper murders of the 1800's that suggests the string of homicides was an elaborate conspiracy pulled off by the Royal Family in order to keep the news of the Prince having an illegitimate child with a shopkeeper. This is based off a real theory but it has been debunked many times, even Moore himself. However, it's an interesting tale of what could have been all the same, while still managing to give an extremely accurate portrayal of the heinous acts and the aftermath they had on London at the time. The story of Sir William Gull is certainly intriguing to say the least.
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Uzumaki: Volume 1 - 7/10
Admittedly, I'm not the biggest manga reader - but I'm always willing to give interesting premises a shot. Dorohedoro Volume 1 is on deck, but I've been feeling a bit of a horror vibe lately and have been wanting to read this. Snagging it in a $15 lot with Revival Vol 1, Outcast Vol 1 and Wytches by Scott Snyder was just a bonus. Anyhow, this was a sort of starkly fun tale about a girl who lives in a town that's cursed by spirals. The shape. This is only Volume 1, so I'm not sure what the origin of these spirals are yet (if it's ever even revealed). This left me a little in the dark, but I decided to just go with it.
There were a few genuinely creepy moments in this one, but quite a few goofy moments that just didn't work for me. One example of something creepy was when two star-crossed lovers had somehow discovered a way to spiral into each other and opted for a life as intertwined spirals over their families keeping them apart. The imagery here, and at an earlier part of the book including a spiral-corpse, really hit home. One example of too goofy, however, was the two-girl showdown decided by who could get more attention based on the whacky spirals in their hair.
Unfortunately that second example was the story that ended Volume 1 so it kind of left off on an air fart, but the rest of the book has at least persuaded me to eventually check out Volume 2.
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Revival: Volume 1 - 7.5/10
I went into Revival completely in the dark and was pleasantly surprised. It was a quick read (a little too quick to be honest) but there were some really memorable characters. Many creepy moments too, and these first 5 issues really open up a few mysteries that I imagine the series tackles further down the road. Like Uzumaki, this first volume has gotten me interested in checking out volume 2.
There are some real questions presented about characters in this story that make me sort of anxious to read more, but these didn't really come until the last 2 issues. The first 3 were the standard "dead are coming back and the town doesn't know how to deal with it" situations with underlying tones of what was to come. My favorite aspect of the comic was the dynamic between a psychopath who claims to have met the devil and devotes his life to exercising demons by any fudgeed up means necessary, and a "revived" main character named Em who he claims is the devil incarnate. It's interesting because she definitely does some semi-dastardly things, and her actions within this first volume could easily fit the "devil in disguise" routine. The "demon" had a neat, simple and disturbing design too so I'm interested what more the series does with these entities moving forward.
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Wytches by Scott Snyder - 8/10
Real creepy, atmospheric tale about a girl who was "pledged" to the ancient Wytches that haunt a New Hampshire town. Great use of foreshadowing in this one, and the characters really worked. There is some clunky dialogue and silly character moments but otherwise, they all stand up.
I love the study of witches in general that this book features. Lots of lore - the "wytches" are portrayed as genetically "evolved" beings whose magic can grant anyone who pledges somebody to them their wildest dreams. They mark the portal to their world with ginger - thus the old "witches live in a gingerbread house" schtick. It's real fun the way Snyder presents the creatures as grounded in some sort of reality that is able to explain away a bunch of real-life myths about witches.
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Saga: Deluxe Edition Volume 1 - 10/10
Saga: Deluxe Edition Volume 2 - 10/10
Saga Volume 7: The War for Phang - 7.5/10
Image just dropped the Deluxe Edition Volume 2, so I re-read Deluxe Edition Volume 1 in anticipation. Plowed through both within a day or two, and then read where the story left off with the trade-paperback for Saga Volume 7, dubbed "The War for Phang". My "Phang" write-up contains spoilers, so beware.
The first book is an exercise in world-building, character development and story-telling. There's so much to this story that it's hard to want to type about it, but it's a fantasy epic that spans different planets over the course of one child, Hazel's life. She narrates it as we, the reader, get to watch her parents (two former soldiers of warring homeworlds) sacrifice everything to keep her hidden. Being a "hybrid" of two races, she is a highly sought-after person when news breaks of her existence.
The second book is more of the same - but better, if possible. Lots of incredible visuals, the characters are taken in directions that are genuinely surprising and the story progresses at exactly the right pace. Brian K Vaughn has a way of creating very personal moments on an epic sci-fi backdrop. This book just furthers the fun of the story, even if some major gore and violence occurs along the way. It's always done in a surprising and honestly interesting way.
Volume 7: The War for Phang was a noticeable step down in my opinion, but still a strong entry into the series compared to most comics. My issue with this portion of the story was its overly-bleak atmosphere. Saga can absolutely get bleak and tragic at times, but most of the time there is another character's plot to add some levity or color. In "The War for Phang", just about all the characters are brought to the lowest we've ever seen them. Some of the tragic nature seems a little forced, to be honest. One moment when a drugged out Prince Robot insinuates that he is either going to rape Alana (Hazel's mother) or kill himself was a little out-of-nowhere considering their relationship up to that point. Then the big twist in the last issue was fittingly tragic, but just seemed like another tack in this overly-bleak tale. There was also a 2-headed villain introduced in this batch of issues that, for the first time since Saga started, left me underwhelmed with the design of a character. And what makes that character worse, is that they (two heads) leave devastating effects in their wake for our main characters - but, having been killed at the end, ultimately won't play a huge part going forward. It felt a little too quick - to bring our characters so far low only to have the threat eliminated quickly, like they just needed an excuse to torture the characters.
I'm hoping all this leads to some real good character development in the issues to come ("Phang" was about 50/50 in that department) or else this volume will always sort of stick out as needlessly bleak portion of the story.
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12-Jul-22 8:27am
#261 Kommie
I read the first 2 volumes of Radiant Black, not sure if I like it or not. Some of it is cool, some isn't.
#261 Kommie
I read the first 2 volumes of Radiant Black, not sure if I like it or not. Some of it is cool, some isn't.
12-Jul-22 10:46am
#262 theJaw
Kommie wrote:
I'm not one of those people crazy about that character in the spoiler.
You just hate cute little fellas.
#262 theJaw
Kommie wrote:
I'm not one of those people crazy about that character in the spoiler.
You just hate cute little fellas.
28-Jul-22 10:37pm
#264 Sid_Ceaser
After seeing the 4 minute clip of Death from Sandman I am getting pretty jazzed about it.
I hope this means another decade of girls wearing ankh's around their necks. Love that crap.
#264 Sid_Ceaser
After seeing the 4 minute clip of Death from Sandman I am getting pretty jazzed about it.
I hope this means another decade of girls wearing ankh's around their necks. Love that crap.
28-Jul-22 10:46pm
#265 theJaw
Sid_Ceaser wrote:
After seeing the 4 minute clip of Death from Sandman I am getting pretty jazzed about it. I hope this means another decade of girls wearing ankh's around their necks. Love that crap.
I watched that scene yesterday too, along with the scene of him hitting up Hell. Gwendoline Christie as Lucifer is pretty badass.
#265 theJaw
Sid_Ceaser wrote:
After seeing the 4 minute clip of Death from Sandman I am getting pretty jazzed about it. I hope this means another decade of girls wearing ankh's around their necks. Love that crap.
I watched that scene yesterday too, along with the scene of him hitting up Hell. Gwendoline Christie as Lucifer is pretty badass.
16-Sep-22 11:56pm
#266 theJaw
Probably posted about this book before but I’m unpacking my books since the move to fill the shelves, feeling nice and nostalgic. Just uncovered this: the very first “graphic novel” hardcover I ever got, same copy and all. My dad and I visited our local comic shop when I was like… 8 or 9, if not younger. We were in there to find a single issue for me, the dad would usually snag me an issue every week or two (usually Batman or X-Men), but he legit lit up when he saw this hardcover. He hadn’t realized they compiled issues from his childhood into full volumes like that. His excitement was contagious, so I suggested he snag it. Probably the one book I own where I actually appreciate the wear and tear on the slipcover. Wonderful memory, and probably why I’ve always loved Thor so much.
These little stories are so fun, the first issues for Thor, back before Thor got wildly epic. Love this stuff.
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#266 theJaw
Probably posted about this book before but I’m unpacking my books since the move to fill the shelves, feeling nice and nostalgic. Just uncovered this: the very first “graphic novel” hardcover I ever got, same copy and all. My dad and I visited our local comic shop when I was like… 8 or 9, if not younger. We were in there to find a single issue for me, the dad would usually snag me an issue every week or two (usually Batman or X-Men), but he legit lit up when he saw this hardcover. He hadn’t realized they compiled issues from his childhood into full volumes like that. His excitement was contagious, so I suggested he snag it. Probably the one book I own where I actually appreciate the wear and tear on the slipcover. Wonderful memory, and probably why I’ve always loved Thor so much.
These little stories are so fun, the first issues for Thor, back before Thor got wildly epic. Love this stuff.
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23-Jun-23 10:30am
#267 theJaw
Figured I'd open this thread back up. @hobbes21 's thread about The Last Ronin made me realize this one was closed. I've definitely been getting back into a comics frenzy lately so I'll be sharing thoughts along the way.
For right now I'm reading:
-the issues of Saga I haven't gotten caught up on (61-64 so far)
-The Last Ronin
-The X-Cellenet (Michael Allred art rules)
Also think I'm going to start Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run. I hear it's relatable to certain folks despite being about a big ol' swamp monster. Also wanna check out Rusty Brown by Chris Ware and The Underwater Welder by Jeff Lemire. Think I may track down some more Black Hammer stuff that I missed by Lemire too.
What's everyone else reading?
#267 theJaw
Figured I'd open this thread back up. @hobbes21 's thread about The Last Ronin made me realize this one was closed. I've definitely been getting back into a comics frenzy lately so I'll be sharing thoughts along the way.
For right now I'm reading:
-the issues of Saga I haven't gotten caught up on (61-64 so far)
-The Last Ronin
-The X-Cellenet (Michael Allred art rules)
Also think I'm going to start Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run. I hear it's relatable to certain folks despite being about a big ol' swamp monster. Also wanna check out Rusty Brown by Chris Ware and The Underwater Welder by Jeff Lemire. Think I may track down some more Black Hammer stuff that I missed by Lemire too.
What's everyone else reading?
27-Jun-23 2:30am
#268 ryanflucas
Has anyone finished reading anything they’d like to sell?
I’ve been reading Department of Truth.
#268 ryanflucas
Has anyone finished reading anything they’d like to sell?
I’ve been reading Department of Truth.
27-Jun-23 9:10am
#269 Tony
I have tons of tpbs I'd like to sell or trade (mostly Marvel and DC), but I've had few responses to the lists I've posted. I've about given up trying.
#269 Tony
I have tons of tpbs I'd like to sell or trade (mostly Marvel and DC), but I've had few responses to the lists I've posted. I've about given up trying.
3-Oct-23 11:23pm
#271 theJaw
Recently read:
Batman: The Three Jokers - It was fine I guess... but in classic Geoff Johns fashion, it's trying to be an all-timer when it's nowhere close. The premise is that there may have been three Jokers all along, but the story itself makes that blatantly questionable real early and the ending is just... bad. The title is a gimmick, so if you're reading it for the intrigue, it's skippable. A much more effective way to muddle expectations regarding the Joker's origin was seen in Scott Snyder's New 52 run. In that, we get a way better Red Hood origin during the Zero Year event. Then in Endgame, Snyder also plays around with the idea that Joker is some ancient demonic entity but does so without committing to the idea, just making Batman question who or what it is he's been battling all these years. Just mentioning it does the story no justice, it's much more subtle than I'm making it seem but super interesting. Keeping an air of mystery is half the fun, but The Three Jokers goes the opposite direction and it's sorta lame.
Hellboy: The Return of Effie Kolb - This is a sequel to my favorite Hellboy story, The Crooked Man. It's much shorter and therefore super rushed, and ends up just being sorta disappointing. The art was great and Mignola still tells an entertaining enough story, but it's nowhere near as good as The Crooked Man.
The Vision - This is the one about the Vision and his family of Vision androids. It's surprisingly dark and existential. I wasn't sure how I felt about it at first but I really dug it by the time I finished it. I'm not sure if Marvel have really followed up with Vision after this story outside of a few crossover appearances, which is a shame. This story seems to set him off in a really interesting direction.
Currently reading:
One Piece - it's a daunting task, there is so much of it... but it's super fun. My pal is a lifelong fan of the manga, so him and the live-action show got me to give it a go. I'll probably be working on this for a long while.
Descender - Very interesting sci-fi story by emotional genius Jeff Lemire. Interested to see where the story goes.
Boom Comics' Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers - Much more coherent and worthwhile than the TV shows. It's fun to see the classic Power Rangers lineup treated like an actual superhero book as opposed to a kids after school show.
Quickstops - Short stories written by Kevin Smith that take place in the Clerks universe. Simple, mindless fun.
Currently re-reading:
Hellboy: The Crooked Man - One of my all-time favorite stories ever and perfect for Halloween time. The disappointing sequel had me itching to read the original. Can't wait to see how they adapt this for the next movie.
Star Wars: The Thrawn Trilogy - Still the best Star Wars trilogy since the original trilogy. Every few years I revisit this one.
#271 theJaw
Recently read:
Batman: The Three Jokers - It was fine I guess... but in classic Geoff Johns fashion, it's trying to be an all-timer when it's nowhere close. The premise is that there may have been three Jokers all along, but the story itself makes that blatantly questionable real early and the ending is just... bad. The title is a gimmick, so if you're reading it for the intrigue, it's skippable. A much more effective way to muddle expectations regarding the Joker's origin was seen in Scott Snyder's New 52 run. In that, we get a way better Red Hood origin during the Zero Year event. Then in Endgame, Snyder also plays around with the idea that Joker is some ancient demonic entity but does so without committing to the idea, just making Batman question who or what it is he's been battling all these years. Just mentioning it does the story no justice, it's much more subtle than I'm making it seem but super interesting. Keeping an air of mystery is half the fun, but The Three Jokers goes the opposite direction and it's sorta lame.
Hellboy: The Return of Effie Kolb - This is a sequel to my favorite Hellboy story, The Crooked Man. It's much shorter and therefore super rushed, and ends up just being sorta disappointing. The art was great and Mignola still tells an entertaining enough story, but it's nowhere near as good as The Crooked Man.
The Vision - This is the one about the Vision and his family of Vision androids. It's surprisingly dark and existential. I wasn't sure how I felt about it at first but I really dug it by the time I finished it. I'm not sure if Marvel have really followed up with Vision after this story outside of a few crossover appearances, which is a shame. This story seems to set him off in a really interesting direction.
Currently reading:
One Piece - it's a daunting task, there is so much of it... but it's super fun. My pal is a lifelong fan of the manga, so him and the live-action show got me to give it a go. I'll probably be working on this for a long while.
Descender - Very interesting sci-fi story by emotional genius Jeff Lemire. Interested to see where the story goes.
Boom Comics' Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers - Much more coherent and worthwhile than the TV shows. It's fun to see the classic Power Rangers lineup treated like an actual superhero book as opposed to a kids after school show.
Quickstops - Short stories written by Kevin Smith that take place in the Clerks universe. Simple, mindless fun.
Currently re-reading:
Hellboy: The Crooked Man - One of my all-time favorite stories ever and perfect for Halloween time. The disappointing sequel had me itching to read the original. Can't wait to see how they adapt this for the next movie.
Star Wars: The Thrawn Trilogy - Still the best Star Wars trilogy since the original trilogy. Every few years I revisit this one.
4-Oct-23 8:47am
#272 Kommie
Haven't read anything in awhile but apparently Scott Snyder lives somewhat local to me and did a singing at a local store last week. He's stopped by this place many times before apparently.
#272 Kommie
Haven't read anything in awhile but apparently Scott Snyder lives somewhat local to me and did a singing at a local store last week. He's stopped by this place many times before apparently.
4-Oct-23 7:47pm
#273 theJaw
I vote: go for it. It’s always great to stretch the artistic muscles. My buddy and I have been working on a comic for a while. Nothing to show off yet but it’s a sci-fi throwback to the goofier 90s style stuff like Earthworm Jim and The Tick. I have a ton of scripts and treatments typed up for different comic ideas, just need an artist that I have no money to pay haha. Thankfully the pal in question is a great artist for the story we’re trying to tell so we’re just approaching it as a side project for now.
Otherwise I’ve been dabbling with sketching around since getting my ipad. Recently drew Michael Cera as the Joker just for goofs:
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Little Tom Waits action:
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#273 theJaw
I vote: go for it. It’s always great to stretch the artistic muscles. My buddy and I have been working on a comic for a while. Nothing to show off yet but it’s a sci-fi throwback to the goofier 90s style stuff like Earthworm Jim and The Tick. I have a ton of scripts and treatments typed up for different comic ideas, just need an artist that I have no money to pay haha. Thankfully the pal in question is a great artist for the story we’re trying to tell so we’re just approaching it as a side project for now.
Otherwise I’ve been dabbling with sketching around since getting my ipad. Recently drew Michael Cera as the Joker just for goofs:
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Little Tom Waits action:
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4-Oct-23 8:01pm
#274 Tony
theJaw wrote:
Recently read: Batman: The Three Jokers - It was fine I guess... but in classic Geoff Johns fashion, it's trying to be an all-timer when it's nowhere close. The premise is that there may have been three Jokers all along, but the story itself makes that blatantly questionable real early and the ending is just... bad.
This story is set up in Justice League when Batman sits in the New Gods' Mobius Chair. To test it he asks two questions: Who killed my parents? and What is the Joker's real name. The chair tells him that there are three Jokers. The Three Jokers story answers some of the "old school" type comic book continuity questions about how the Joker has seemingly been in two places at once, how he keeps seemingly returning from the dead, and such. I believe it was Joker: Endgame that established he uses a Lazarus Pit (or something like it) to keep returning from the dead.
It has been quite some time since I read Three Jokers, but, as I recall, the Three Joker storyline never addresses why the existence of three distinct Jokers (or a sequence of Jokers) hadn't been established long before. One or more of them has been incarcerated often enough that DNA, fingerprints, dental records, x-rays of previous fractures, etc. would have shown it wasn't the same guy each time.
#274 Tony
theJaw wrote:
Recently read: Batman: The Three Jokers - It was fine I guess... but in classic Geoff Johns fashion, it's trying to be an all-timer when it's nowhere close. The premise is that there may have been three Jokers all along, but the story itself makes that blatantly questionable real early and the ending is just... bad.
This story is set up in Justice League when Batman sits in the New Gods' Mobius Chair. To test it he asks two questions: Who killed my parents? and What is the Joker's real name. The chair tells him that there are three Jokers. The Three Jokers story answers some of the "old school" type comic book continuity questions about how the Joker has seemingly been in two places at once, how he keeps seemingly returning from the dead, and such. I believe it was Joker: Endgame that established he uses a Lazarus Pit (or something like it) to keep returning from the dead.
It has been quite some time since I read Three Jokers, but, as I recall, the Three Joker storyline never addresses why the existence of three distinct Jokers (or a sequence of Jokers) hadn't been established long before. One or more of them has been incarcerated often enough that DNA, fingerprints, dental records, x-rays of previous fractures, etc. would have shown it wasn't the same guy each time.
4-Oct-23 8:16pm
#275 theJaw
@Tony yah, in Endgame, it's shown Joker uses a pool of the chemical "Dionesium" to regenerate (forgot what it was called). But for a lot of the story Batman begins questioning what Joker really "is," with an immortal demon being hinted at due to Batman finding an old-timey photo of the Joker (or someone who looked a lot like him). He even seeks out the Talon to find out if Joker may have used what the Court used to keep him immortal, and one of the covers metaphorically suggests the whole "demon" gimmick by presenting Joker as a weird demon-looking creature.
Spoilers for the Three Jokers for anyone who hasn't read it .......... In Issue 2 or 3, it's revealed that Joker is legit just using yet another gas to turn people into "Jokers," and he's trying to turn Joe Chill into the ULTIMATE Joker so that he can haunt Batman entirely by "becoming" the man who killed his parents. So right away, it gives away that there aren't "three" Jokers, there are just several people that Joker MADE Jokers -- apparently with only two having actually survived the transition long enough to mess with Batman. Though there IS a segment in Three Jokers where an army of "Jokers" attack Batgirl and Red Hood who seem to have survived just fine haha. I guess that can technically explain why Joker appeared in two places at once, but doesn't really explain why the Mobius Chair suggested that there is objectively "three" when there is still really only one -- the one who Batman apparently knew the name of since the day he first appeared.
I'm content just pretending Three Jokers isn't canonical, and I'm honestly not even sure if it's supposed to be. Just a forgettable story that tried too hard to do something "different" with the continuity.
#275 theJaw
@Tony yah, in Endgame, it's shown Joker uses a pool of the chemical "Dionesium" to regenerate (forgot what it was called). But for a lot of the story Batman begins questioning what Joker really "is," with an immortal demon being hinted at due to Batman finding an old-timey photo of the Joker (or someone who looked a lot like him). He even seeks out the Talon to find out if Joker may have used what the Court used to keep him immortal, and one of the covers metaphorically suggests the whole "demon" gimmick by presenting Joker as a weird demon-looking creature.
Spoilers for the Three Jokers for anyone who hasn't read it .......... In Issue 2 or 3, it's revealed that Joker is legit just using yet another gas to turn people into "Jokers," and he's trying to turn Joe Chill into the ULTIMATE Joker so that he can haunt Batman entirely by "becoming" the man who killed his parents. So right away, it gives away that there aren't "three" Jokers, there are just several people that Joker MADE Jokers -- apparently with only two having actually survived the transition long enough to mess with Batman. Though there IS a segment in Three Jokers where an army of "Jokers" attack Batgirl and Red Hood who seem to have survived just fine haha. I guess that can technically explain why Joker appeared in two places at once, but doesn't really explain why the Mobius Chair suggested that there is objectively "three" when there is still really only one -- the one who Batman apparently knew the name of since the day he first appeared.
I'm content just pretending Three Jokers isn't canonical, and I'm honestly not even sure if it's supposed to be. Just a forgettable story that tried too hard to do something "different" with the continuity.
4-Oct-23 8:45pm
#276 bill
theJaw wrote:
Michael Cera as the Joker just for goofs: {imgt}https://i.ibb.co/JF8... 1284 1577{imgt}
Ha, pretty good.
Good luck with your efforts.
#276 bill
theJaw wrote:
Michael Cera as the Joker just for goofs: {imgt}https://i.ibb.co/JF8... 1284 1577{imgt}
Ha, pretty good.
Good luck with your efforts.
4-Oct-23 11:38pm
#278 theJaw
Thanks fellas, and best of luck to you in your artistic ventures too @bill
#278 theJaw
Thanks fellas, and best of luck to you in your artistic ventures too @bill
17-Oct-23 6:52pm
#279 theJaw
Some of you folks may know I recently got a freelance writing job in the TV/movies department of CBR.com, but I was recently also brought on board for the comics writing department too.
Do you folks have any recommendations of things to read or subjects that would make for an interesting analysis/feature? The way it works is that I can pitch an idea and if they think it'll do well on the site, they'll approve it. So if there's anything yall would want to see covered, let me know.
I'm being considered to be given access to the "DC Box," which would provide me access to DC comics about a month prior to their public release. So that's pretty neat. But I can also pitch ideas for books already out, so I'm all ears for ideas.
#279 theJaw
Some of you folks may know I recently got a freelance writing job in the TV/movies department of CBR.com, but I was recently also brought on board for the comics writing department too.
Do you folks have any recommendations of things to read or subjects that would make for an interesting analysis/feature? The way it works is that I can pitch an idea and if they think it'll do well on the site, they'll approve it. So if there's anything yall would want to see covered, let me know.
I'm being considered to be given access to the "DC Box," which would provide me access to DC comics about a month prior to their public release. So that's pretty neat. But I can also pitch ideas for books already out, so I'm all ears for ideas.
18-Oct-23 8:39am
#280 Tony
theJaw wrote:
Do you folks have any recommendations of things to read or subjects that would make for an interesting analysis/feature? The way it works is that I can pitch an idea and if they think it'll do well on the site, they'll approve it. So if there's anything yall would want to see covered, let me know. I don't read CBR, but if they haven't been done already these might make interesting topics:
Why do digital comics cost as much as the printed version? I understand that the writers and artists should get the same amount for their work, but it seems logical that the costs of printing and distributing the physical copy would be much greater than those for a digital copy.
Why do the codes for digital copies expire so quickly - or at all? I buy a lot of books second hand and at dealer overstock sales, but the codes are usually expired by the time I get them.
What do people think about rebooting titles every couple of years? Putting the Legacy numbering on the cover helps, but unless you are buying the books as they come out it is hard to keep track of which series you are looking at when going through old issues. Finding a particular book in an online database or price guide is much more difficult with so many "Avengers" titles.
What do people think about identifying trade paperbacks by the author or only by the title of the storyline? I read a few tpbs on Hoopla, but sometimes I have to work too hard to find the next volume in the series. e,g, When I was reading through the Justice League series, I found Vol. 1 (issues 59 - 63) and Vol. 2 (issues 64 - 68) under "by Brian Michael Bendis". When I search for "Batman Vol. 1", it shows me "I am Gotham (issues 1-6), Their Dark Designs (issues 86-94), and Failsafe (issues 125-130) - for the same series.
#280 Tony
theJaw wrote:
Do you folks have any recommendations of things to read or subjects that would make for an interesting analysis/feature? The way it works is that I can pitch an idea and if they think it'll do well on the site, they'll approve it. So if there's anything yall would want to see covered, let me know. I don't read CBR, but if they haven't been done already these might make interesting topics:
Why do digital comics cost as much as the printed version? I understand that the writers and artists should get the same amount for their work, but it seems logical that the costs of printing and distributing the physical copy would be much greater than those for a digital copy.
Why do the codes for digital copies expire so quickly - or at all? I buy a lot of books second hand and at dealer overstock sales, but the codes are usually expired by the time I get them.
What do people think about rebooting titles every couple of years? Putting the Legacy numbering on the cover helps, but unless you are buying the books as they come out it is hard to keep track of which series you are looking at when going through old issues. Finding a particular book in an online database or price guide is much more difficult with so many "Avengers" titles.
What do people think about identifying trade paperbacks by the author or only by the title of the storyline? I read a few tpbs on Hoopla, but sometimes I have to work too hard to find the next volume in the series. e,g, When I was reading through the Justice League series, I found Vol. 1 (issues 59 - 63) and Vol. 2 (issues 64 - 68) under "by Brian Michael Bendis". When I search for "Batman Vol. 1", it shows me "I am Gotham (issues 1-6), Their Dark Designs (issues 86-94), and Failsafe (issues 125-130) - for the same series.
20-Oct-23 1:06am
#281 ryanflucas
In case anyone doesn’t know, public libraries often have graphic novel sections. Most libraries have at least one annual book sale. Some have them every 6 months.
I went to a book sale today and ended up buying 15 graphic novels for $1 each. Turns out many libraries are purging graphic novels and young adult books because they’re the two most challenged areas for book bans by outside community groups (like Moms for Liberty). Instead of hand vetting each book, they just purge entire sections and start over. It’s unfortunate but a lot of good deals out there.
#281 ryanflucas
In case anyone doesn’t know, public libraries often have graphic novel sections. Most libraries have at least one annual book sale. Some have them every 6 months.
I went to a book sale today and ended up buying 15 graphic novels for $1 each. Turns out many libraries are purging graphic novels and young adult books because they’re the two most challenged areas for book bans by outside community groups (like Moms for Liberty). Instead of hand vetting each book, they just purge entire sections and start over. It’s unfortunate but a lot of good deals out there.
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