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Username: DDR_Freek_Geno
Address: 819 Cedar Ridge, Harker Heights, TX 76548

Status: active
Created: August 15, 2001 at 8:13pm (EST)
UPDATE: 10/3/01

Well, in a few more days we'll be hitting 4 months that Geno has not held up his end of the trade. I had contacted him a few times to try and work out an alternative plan, maybe trade something else of equivalent value in an attempt to make things right. He had actually made a couple semi-decent attempts at a substitute for Lunar 2 (an incomplete Lunar 1 or FF9) and although I appreciate that, I wasn't going to accept anything less than what was on par with the value of Lunar 2. I mean at this point, if I don't get anything back it's not going to kill me, I'd rather use this as an instrument to prevent others from getting the shaft than get only part of what I was supposed to get and pretend like nothing happened. I think that's why he doesn't have alot more BTRs, because he keeps stuff for so long, people are relieved to get anything back at all and will settle for something sub-standard. I didn't want that to happen here. Either you do it right, or don't do it at all.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Out of the blue I got another message from him trying to work something out (after not responding to me for a long time). It was suprising, I thought maybe he was turning a new leaf. Well, when I went to his page, I saw someone else had put a BTR up on him. Then I got the feeling that the only reason he contacted me was because the BTR reports were causing him problems with trading, so that was his only motivation (as opposed to just being a decent person). Sorry if I am making a wrongful assumption, that's just what it looks like... But anyway, he offered the incomplete Lunar 1 again, or Suikoden (uh, no...) and I didn't want to do that, I asked for Alien Front Online (used = $25) and $25 to equal $50 (approximate used value for Lunar 2 with all the goodies). At least I could be half way to getting the game I was supposed to get and the overall value would be right. He didn't like that idea. We were messaging through ICQ, and then as always, right in the middle of talking, he stopped responding. I think that's the most annoying thing, he likes to ignore messages like a coward when it's not what he wants to hear. Frustrating... Oh, and he likes to freak out in messages with stuff like "I'm trying to get your DAMNED game," and stuff like that. Kind of hilarious actually. :P

So anyways, to you folks that have pendings dating way back when and you sent first, I wish you good luck. Sorry you couldn't see this earlier. To those of you thinking about trading with Geno... Well, if you are the kind who thinks about the future and tries to do something about it when you see someone wronged, you might decide not to trade with him because of the principal that he did bad things to other people. If you are the type that doesn't give a hoot what happened to others and the deal is too good to pass up, at least have the sense to make him send first so you don't become like me (well, us I guess). And finally, to all of you good traders out there who I have traded with as well as those I haven't, I hope that this report will be of use to you, thanks for making gametz overall a great place to swap games (and of course a special thanks to Bill for making this all possible).

~Mark (Eltis)


On June 7th, Geno emailed me and asked if I would trade with him for my maracas.
On June 8th, we agreed to trade his Lunar 2: EB + all the swag for my Cha Cha Amigo Maracas and an official DC controller.
The trade was posted on June 9th. I agreed to send first since his ratings were substantial.
On June 14th, Geno said my shipment arrived safe and sound. It was at this time he notified me that Lunar 2 was pending in, so he could not send it. This was not indicated to me before. He assured me that if it wasn't in "soon," he would buy me a new one and send that.
After a couple weeks of hearing nothing, I emailed Geno again asking about the trade. He responded and told me that there was a death in the family and was away, but assured me that he would be able to send the game out priority mail on Tuesday (July 10th). I trusted that, and waited.
August rolled around and I noticed there was alot of trade activity on Geno's listing, but I hadn't received anything. At this point, we were around 2 months into the trade and I was getting impatient. I emailed him again, and he responded August 3rd asking if I would take Lunar 1 instead (no swag). I declined because I have Lunar 1 already and didn't find it to be a fair trade.
I emailed him again and told him if we didn't get this resolved I would have to put up a bad trader report.
He responded August 7th stating it wasn't easy to get the money for it, but he was working on getting the game.
I emailed him stating that I would have been more patient if he had been honest and forthright in the beginning, but I gave him one more chance. I asked him to set a reasonable date at the latest for which he could get the goods for me.
He emailed me back August 8th and asked for a week. I found that reasonable, so I delayed putting up the BTR.
As of today, that week has expired and I haven't heard a word from Geno. I hoped I wouldn't have to put this up, but at this point I've run out of patience. I really trusted him, and I feel that the whole way this has been handled goes against the 3 criteria that a trader is rated on: honesty, speed, and courtesy.

Geno, I would appreciate it if you would fulfill your part of the trade as promised and we can put this behind us. I will remove this BTR upon successful completion of our trade. <Eltis>

Reported By: Eltis